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Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10131 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 10:46:06
February 21 2013 10:40 GMT
#81
Meh, lot of people argueing about best PvP with just "modes" of pvp's, and not their skill ceiling. GW (1 and 2) has the lowest skill ceiling i had ever seen on a mmo, most of the "skill" in that game is strategic, comps, etc. The most rewarding PvP games thinking straight (not nostalgic) would be darkfall and age of conan, both of them because had a way higher skill ceiling than most point and click and you could do amazing stuff like 3/4 vs 1, just because you were awesome. Too bad age of conan's caster didn't need to aim tho. I didn't try TERA but my guess would be that it has potential, but korean is just not my sauce.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 21 2013 14:32 GMT
#82
On February 21 2013 10:10 NukeD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 21 2013 04:26 Crownlol wrote:
If there was a game that could simulate BC/WotLK 3v3 arena/bg's without having to level and gear for 6 months, I'd gladly buy it for $60.


Not exactly what you pointed out but you might wanna check out Forge.


Tried Forge- it was more like a fantasy-themed Unreal Tournament than anything else. It was honestly kind of neat, but nothing close to WoW in depth and mechanics.
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Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
February 21 2013 14:34 GMT
#83
On February 21 2013 19:40 Godwrath wrote:
Meh, lot of people argueing about best PvP with just "modes" of pvp's, and not their skill ceiling. GW (1 and 2) has the lowest skill ceiling i had ever seen on a mmo, most of the "skill" in that game is strategic, comps, etc. The most rewarding PvP games thinking straight (not nostalgic) would be darkfall and age of conan, both of them because had a way higher skill ceiling than most point and click and you could do amazing stuff like 3/4 vs 1, just because you were awesome. Too bad age of conan's caster didn't need to aim tho. I didn't try TERA but my guess would be that it has potential, but korean is just not my sauce.



Don't bother with TERA- there's something just super Korean about it. The class balance is way off, and combat is slow and kind of silly. The fast class with giant swords (Slayers) are just shockingly overpowered, partially because they have gapclosers and abilities that swing in large arcs, while the axe class has abilities that strike straight down. It was a neat concept, but moves too slow and clunky- it's like 3rd person Skyrim.
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Figgy
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada1788 Posts
February 21 2013 14:38 GMT
#84
WoW is still by far the best pvp game. Nothing else is really close atm, and I've played A LOT of MMOs.

Roll on a server than is 30% or less your faction, 70% opponents and you'll find all the world PvP you EVER need. Also, the Arena and RBG system is amazing.

The only problem with WoW is that you really have to dedicate quite a bit of time on it if you want to play at a competitive level.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
February 21 2013 15:16 GMT
#85
Mass pvp - Lineage 2 hands down.
Single pvp? Well thats very dependant on personal taste, one likes this the other likes that....many people say WoW but that game is so boriiiiing for anyone that played L2 before. I dont know. If You really want so much 1v1 skill play fighting games. MMO stands for Massive MO, well pvp WoW isnt massive, in Lienage is.
Pathetic Greta hater.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 15:24 GMT
#86
Anyone that played the original Ultima Online will say that. Anyone that didn't, will say something else. In my opinion, there's never really been a good pvp mmo since UO. It's a shame, but I don't even think it's possible anymore.
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nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
February 21 2013 15:28 GMT
#87
On February 20 2013 18:58 Roggay wrote:
If you liked vanilla WoW, you can still try it on private servers (its free too). The feenix server is pretty much bug free at this point I think and pretty good ( search for wow-one ). Im playing on their tbc 2.4.3 server and its pretty good and im having a ton of fun with the pvp (I really liked tbc arenas).


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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 15:45:05
February 21 2013 15:36 GMT
#88
Also, this game is somewhat of a guilty pleasure but check out Dungeon Fighter Online. Highly skill based pvp that plays out just as much like a Street Fighteresque game than it does an mmo. Still, there is a good reason it's wildly popular in Korea, they know their competitive games.

I really wish someone would take that core gameplay concept and put a triple A budget into it.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 16:08 GMT
#89
On February 22 2013 00:36 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Also, this game is somewhat of a guilty pleasure but check out Dungeon Fighter Online. Highly skill based pvp that plays out just as much like a Street Fighteresque game than it does an mmo. Still, there is a good reason it's wildly popular in Korea, they know their competitive games.

I really wish someone would take that core gameplay concept and put a triple A budget into it.


Does Dungeon Fighter Online have that same annoying pay-to-win foundation? If not, it sounds intriguing.
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 16:19:15
February 21 2013 16:16 GMT
#90
On February 22 2013 01:08 danl9rm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 22 2013 00:36 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Also, this game is somewhat of a guilty pleasure but check out Dungeon Fighter Online. Highly skill based pvp that plays out just as much like a Street Fighteresque game than it does an mmo. Still, there is a good reason it's wildly popular in Korea, they know their competitive games.

I really wish someone would take that core gameplay concept and put a triple A budget into it.


Does Dungeon Fighter Online have that same annoying pay-to-win foundation? If not, it sounds intriguing.


There is a small pay to win aspect on the PvE side of the game (they have to make money somehow), but the PvP ladder doesn't allow you to bring in pve or avatar gear (they let you choose from set pieces of gear, much like GW2 does). However, there is a separate PvP channel where you CAN bring in overpowered PvE gear if you choose to do so.

High level PvP is insanely fast paced, just look up some korean vids on youtube. It might not be as impressive if you haven't actually played it yourself, but you should still get the general idea.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 21 2013 16:25 GMT
#91
On February 22 2013 00:24 danl9rm wrote:
Anyone that played the original Ultima Online will say that. Anyone that didn't, will say something else. In my opinion, there's never really been a good pvp mmo since UO. It's a shame, but I don't even think it's possible anymore.

I haven't played UO since it was new, more or less, but... what? How can you possibly justify this opinion?
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4733 Posts
February 21 2013 16:28 GMT
#92
Indeed that seems kinda random
Pathetic Greta hater.
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 16:44 GMT
#93
I'm not talking about all the new iterations. I don't even know anything about those. I'm talking around T2A (The 2nd Age) where most of the bugs were fixed and the new graphics and stuff were done.

You guys played during that time? Around 1999-'02? You guys crazy.
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AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 21 2013 16:46 GMT
#94
Well I never played it at all, I was too young. So no opinion on it personally.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 17:27:03
February 21 2013 17:26 GMT
#95
On February 22 2013 01:44 danl9rm wrote:
I'm not talking about all the new iterations. I don't even know anything about those. I'm talking around T2A (The 2nd Age) where most of the bugs were fixed and the new graphics and stuff were done.

You guys played during that time? Around 1999-'02? You guys crazy.

I played mainly during Renaissance and I have no memory of competitive PvP. Sure, the world PvP was very free and cool in that sense, but it obviously had ridiculously dated PvP mechanics.
Irre
Profile Joined August 2010
United States646 Posts
February 21 2013 18:16 GMT
#96
If you didn't play UO pre- Age of Shadows..(EA). you will never understand how amazing that game was and how there will never be another like it for many reasons.

Gw2 seems the best currently..WoW is just god awful now and everything else is basically a pure rip off.

Darkfall is interesting but probably way too small a community to really have a great PVP MMO.... and probably not very clean/polished.

Any game that had potential good PVP basically got their populations killed by WoW after the first few months so there aren't very many solid options.

Maybe some of the newer games like planetside 2?

Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-21 18:47:55
February 21 2013 18:45 GMT
#97
On February 22 2013 03:16 Irre wrote:
If you didn't play UO pre- Age of Shadows..(EA). you will never understand how amazing that game was and how there will never be another like it for many reasons.

Gw2 seems the best currently..WoW is just god awful now and everything else is basically a pure rip off.

Darkfall is interesting but probably way too small a community to really have a great PVP MMO.... and probably not very clean/polished.

Any game that had potential good PVP basically got their populations killed by WoW after the first few months so there aren't very many solid options.

Maybe some of the newer games like planetside 2?




I feel the same way about SWG before Sony ruined it. Player housing? Guild cities? The most in-depth crafting system ever? Holochrons?

The PvP sucked, but man was that a great MMO. Well, actually the world PvP was possibly the best of any game ever, because of the Guild War and Guild City mechanics.

Just imagine how chaotic things were when your carefully built Guild city (which, when large enough, had npc's, vendors, transportation, cantinas, a house for every player, etc) came under attack by your rival guild! Shit was nuts.
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danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
February 21 2013 19:13 GMT
#98
On February 22 2013 03:16 Irre wrote:
If you didn't play UO pre- Age of Shadows..(EA). you will never understand how amazing that game was and how there will never be another like it for many reasons.

Gw2 seems the best currently..WoW is just god awful now and everything else is basically a pure rip off.

Darkfall is interesting but probably way too small a community to really have a great PVP MMO.... and probably not very clean/polished.

Any game that had potential good PVP basically got their populations killed by WoW after the first few months so there aren't very many solid options.

Maybe some of the newer games like planetside 2?



Oh ya, I forgot about Darkfall. I played that on release and did enjoy it for a while, even though the bugs were many. Very many. And even when there wasn't a bug, there were so many questionable decisions. But whatever, I still enjoyed it.

And then, the hackers came. Speed hacks like you wouldn't believe. On a horse? He's on foot? Wait, he's chasing you down anyway and his character is spinning yurnero/d2 barbarian style whirlwind? Gg. Killed the game.

Was fun while it lasted, but they just made too many mistakes, and their network code couldn't handle it either.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 21 2013 19:22 GMT
#99
Eve Online
amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
February 21 2013 20:16 GMT
#100
I'll be taking a look at that Savage 2 game since it looks interesting.
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