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On June 19 2014 21:13 Simberto wrote:
Yeah, just chill, and kill their shit once it lands. At some point your continental allies will peace out seperately, which should tip the war score towards your side because you don't have all these controlled provinces weighting you down. If there is no danger for you, there is no reason to take a bad peace. Blockade shit, kill their fleets, kill what lands on your island. Depending on your continental ambitions you can either give them Calais, or wait a few years for a white peace. Expect the whole ordeal to take 5-10 years.
If the enemies get bored, you might even be able to get seperate peaces with some nations beforehand and turn the whole thing around, but i doubt you'll be able to fight France in a continental war.
Regarding those scottish and irish regions, this might be a silly question, but do you ACTUALLY own them because you have got them in a peace deal(they are in your colour), or do you just control them currently (their colour, but striped with yours). In the first case, you can keep them in a white peace. In the second case, you will need to win the war to get a few of them. Just because you control something does not mean you actually own it, reasonable peace deals are a main part of the game, and you usually only get to keep a few of the provinces you took over.
Thanks for the tips. yeah, i own the regions.
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It's also importan to remember to blockade so it drives their war exhaustion up and they are more willing and will white peace out more quickly. It also sounds like you don't actually own the whole of scotland so, but control some of them, so your best bet is to wait till your allies and the non scot enemies to make separate peace, then maybe you can get annex the scottish regions as well.
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I'd guess that France is the warleader, which means you can not have a separate peace with them, and the war goal is in scotland, so you can not separate peace them either. And i highly doubt you can get something in Scotland without winning the war in France.
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On June 20 2014 04:50 Simberto wrote:
I'd guess that France is the warleader, which means you can not have a separate peace with them, and the war goal is in scotland, so you can not separate peace them either. And i highly doubt you can get something in Scotland without winning the war in France.
the ticking warscore for capturing your war goal+ big positive duration of war modifier in negations should mean you will eventually be able to get them after some amount of time especially after your allies have peaced out, although if the war goal is not capturing a scottisch province that doesn't work.
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sorry for the derail but I am currently playing CK2 because I want to form the Roman Empire and port that save file over to EU4. But I got the problem that I control the province of Rome but the Papacy still controls several Holdings in that province. The game will not allow me to declare war on the papacy anymore so I got no chance to take over its remaining holdings and I got no clue how to fix that. I was hoping one of you guys can help me out with that.
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Can someone explain to me where I can see my relation with the Papal State? I'm supposed to get +150 relations with them but I don't even understand what the Papal State is or where I can see that number.
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On June 23 2014 22:55 Animzor wrote:
Can someone explain to me where I can see my relation with the Papal State? I'm supposed to get +150 relations with them but I don't even understand what the Papal State is or where I can see that number.
The papal state is an actual nation in the game, you can find it typically in Rome, Italy.
Although if someone kills off the papal state one of the archbishopics in the HRE will turn into a new papal states.
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On June 23 2014 22:58 KtheZ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 23 2014 22:55 Animzor wrote:
Can someone explain to me where I can see my relation with the Papal State? I'm supposed to get +150 relations with them but I don't even understand what the Papal State is or where I can see that number. The papal state is an actual nation in the game, you can find it typically in Rome, Italy. Although if someone kills off the papal state one of the archbishopics in the HRE will turn into a new papal states.
Thanks. Edit, nevermind.
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Another question:
Why is it that I can't take the capital of Aragon (Valencia) even when I have casus belli on Valencia. I've done some searching and some people say you need to take all nearby zones as well, but I HAVE taken all of them including the bordering island zone. Valencia still doesn't show up as an annexation option when I sue for peace.  (
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On June 24 2014 08:07 Animzor wrote:Another question: Why is it that I can't take the capital of Aragon (Valencia) even when I have casus belli on Valencia. I've done some searching and some people say you need to take all nearby zones as well, but I HAVE taken all of them including the bordering island zone. Valencia still doesn't show up as an annexation option when I sue for peace. (
Do you have a claim on Valencia?
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On June 24 2014 08:07 Animzor wrote:Another question: Why is it that I can't take the capital of Aragon (Valencia) even when I have casus belli on Valencia. I've done some searching and some people say you need to take all nearby zones as well, but I HAVE taken all of them including the bordering island zone. Valencia still doesn't show up as an annexation option when I sue for peace. (
In general you can't take a nation's capital without annexing the entire country. That's just how the game works. You either go for a full annexation or whittle down Aragon enough to be able to vassalize/annex them during your next war
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On June 24 2014 16:17 Chocolate wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 08:07 Animzor wrote:Another question: Why is it that I can't take the capital of Aragon (Valencia) even when I have casus belli on Valencia. I've done some searching and some people say you need to take all nearby zones as well, but I HAVE taken all of them including the bordering island zone. Valencia still doesn't show up as an annexation option when I sue for peace. ( In general you can't take a nation's capital without annexing the entire country. That's just how the game works. You either go for a full annexation or whittle down Aragon enough to be able to vassalize/annex them during your next war
You can take their capital though if it is completely isolated from the rest of their territory, i.e. they don't own any neighboring province. Note that straits count as a connection.
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On June 24 2014 16:35 scFoX wrote:Show nested quote +On June 24 2014 16:17 Chocolate wrote:On June 24 2014 08:07 Animzor wrote:Another question: Why is it that I can't take the capital of Aragon (Valencia) even when I have casus belli on Valencia. I've done some searching and some people say you need to take all nearby zones as well, but I HAVE taken all of them including the bordering island zone. Valencia still doesn't show up as an annexation option when I sue for peace. ( In general you can't take a nation's capital without annexing the entire country. That's just how the game works. You either go for a full annexation or whittle down Aragon enough to be able to vassalize/annex them during your next war You can take their capital though if it is completely isolated from the rest of their territory, i.e. they don't own any neighboring province. Note that straits count as a connection.
Actually you still can't take a nations capital in this situation, if you look closely the AI actually moves their capital if it is isolated making it just another province that you can just demand. This is a pretty easy tactic to take the captial of super huge countries, take a ring of land around their capital thereby isolating it and making the AI move it .
Also in general, if you want to know if you can take a nations capital when u start a war just look at what percentage it takes to vassilize them, in general if its 100% or below you can fully annex them or simply take their capital, anything above that u have to knock them down.
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I'm pretty sure you can take a capital without full annex.
Yes, I realize most of the time the capital gets moved, but I've seen the condition (in a coalition war) - "you are demanding their capital and thus cannot demand any more provinces" - which would imply that taking capital is a valid demand.
Of course, it has to be isolated, and a claim may be necessary.
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I've taken capitals before. If I can remember right, the capital must be both isolated and is the target of your wargoal for annexation. A claim isn't neccessary I think, but if it is the target, it probably will have a claim on it. If you do decide to annex the capital, no other province can be taken.
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I recall taking an isolated capital on which I had a claim but that wasn't the wargoal along with other provinces from Russia.
So my guess is that claim is sufficient.
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.I don't get why there's no resource for bullshit like this (Wiki doesn't mention it). We shouldn't have to combine conjecture from a bunch of people to make a guess on this.
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On June 26 2014 09:22 KtheZ wrote:
.I don't get why there's no resource for bullshit like this (Wiki doesn't mention it). We shouldn't have to combine conjecture from a bunch of people to make a guess on this.
"In war: If a capital is occupied during a war, it will count for a greater warscore because of its value. It also generally cannot be claimed as part of a peace deal unless it is the very last province of the country; as part of an annexation; or if it is isolated and the sole aim of the war."
Under "Purpose & effects" in the eu4 wiki, took 5 sec to find.
Source* http://www.eu4wiki.com/Capital
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Steam Daily deal! What DLC are worth burning?
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All of them imo but I'm a big fan of EU
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