EPTDrive up their war exhaustion moderately (6-7) and they spit out Polotsk / Ukraine pretty fast
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Russian Federation3631 Posts
Drive up their war exhaustion moderately (6-7) and they spit out Polotsk / Ukraine pretty fast | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Guess I was blind, thank you. On July 02 2014 17:57 Simberto wrote: Ukraine doesn't appear to be doing to well though, my guess is that russia punched them out of the commonwealth. And Germany is the player. Prussia and Commonwealth are pretty rare, though. Well, Poland had the Teutonic Order as a vassal and those just owned Danzig and the province right next to it. And yep, Commonwealth got owned by Bohemia and Russia. Dunno when they got free and formed Prussia though, apparently had those notifications disabled :/ Not sure what to do next now. Either I go for Prussia to try and get to Russia or I start punching Austria. They are rather strong and the lazy Ottomans aren't doing much. Or I go to the north...but France is allied with Norway, hm. This game is really addicting, got so far even though I played only one day. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
It's weird that the Ottoman didn't get anything to the south. Mameluks don't ussually hold up. That's probally their main goal right now. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
I'd probably play this opportunistically. Get some alliances with either France or Austria and pounce on the other one as soon as they are in a big war or don't get to call in dangerous stuff. With good play you should be able to fight either one of them, but not both at the same time. Meanwhile, Punch prussians, danes, bohemians and poles whenever you see an opportunity of not involving France or Austria in a war against you. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Anyway, what ideas would you recommend for Brandenburg? I have Defensive, Offensive, Diplomatic and Innovative. Only points I have en masse are the diplo points, I'm so many years ahead in that tech and can't up it because it would be over my limit. So, what techs should I take and in what order? | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
Returning cores means exactly that, returning a province to them that they have a core on. This is generally cheaper warcost-wise, and produces a lot less AE then just taking provinces. With your previous position, i think you could be able to defeat or stalemate france if you played it carefully. Main strategic points: If you are not far ahead in a war, ALWAYS fight on your own territory. Retreat a bit when they march in, and scorch the border provinces. Retreat backwards until you can fight their split armies, then kill those, and come back to the border to clean up the siege troups one by one. Then wait for the next wave, and continue doing that until either one of you runs out of MP, or you can peace out. Don't fight a main stack that is bigger than yours, wait for it to split for sieging. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
The last 100 years I couldn't really do anything. Everyone was in a coalition against me and I had trouble keeping France as an ally(and lost it for ~20 years). Bavaria, as an example, was a vassal of France and hat 400 aggressive expansion against me. And that even though I only annexed pronvinces where I had claims. France on the other hand annexed left and right and not one nation bothered with him. This is what it looked like in the end(I even built the Kiel canal, whatever it's good for): Switzerland is my vassal btw. I also vassal-annexed Venice and Savoy. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MXY9P43.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/ddrdqbp.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/VtXxir3.png) | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Is there any good way to avoid the emperor forming the HRE? Austria is going pretty fast and I can't go to war with him because he is allied with France ever since the beginning. They only fought once and that ended in a white peace. I'm doing rather well so far, don't have much aggressive expansion. Would have liked to have some provinces from Poland at this point but the only time I went to war with him was with Russia and war leader and he peaced out every single nation with a white pease even though we were ahead(had completely sieged Mecklenburg, had sieged Lithuania and Poland somewhat; Sweden had no army, he lost his to Russia + we had the war goal which was some province in Walachia). What sucks in this game, France in Europe was already the size of my last game after just 100 years. It's so ridiculous, it's not even funny. And he is allied to Austria, the second strongest nation, despite him bordering him. My position is ok'ish at this point, I'm ahead in military tech and am looking forward to take some more nations in the HRE. But the time is missing. Soon, we can't go to war anymore. Also, it sucks that Ironman mode has turned historical lucky nations on. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/3iHS9qM.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kZdUyeV.png) | ||
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
You can always vote against reforms, and do stuff that makes the other people like Austria less. You could usurp their progress by becoming emperor yourself, before it becomes heriditery. I would avoid anything involving that France until you become A LOT stronger. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Can't become an emperor. Austria controls one elector as vassal and apart from him(Saxony) and Bohemia(who votes for Russia anyway), they are all too far away. I also don't have that spy idea which would make me able to sabotage reputation(went with diplomatic, offensive and innovative). That's the problem. If they weren't allied to Austria, maybe those wouldn't win everything. I mean, I'm allied to Austria as well but I usually don't help them. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
And the whole "getting elected" thing is a longterm problem, not a shortterm thing. Try to do stuff that encourages the electors to vote for you, if you mouseover you can see what helps and doesn't help. If you can manage to vassalize 3 electors, that is incredibly helpful. If you manage to make electors of your religion, but not austrias, they will prefer to vote for you over heretics. Usually getting relations to 200 is the easiest part, other factors are harder to influence. You should be a big nation in the HRE, so that makes getting elected a lot easier. That one vassalized elector should make the others dislike Austria a bit, too. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
The electors are pretty much all Catholic except for Bohemia and maybe one or two more. Austria keeps appointing new electors, ones which are preferable for him. He has currently 3 votes for him, then 2 for Palpal States, 1 for Russia and dunno who else. Vassalizing will be difficult since they are so far away(either next to France or down south). I can try though, if there are any opportunities. Austria, France and Russia see me as a competing great power, so that probably counts as big nation. | ||
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Broetchenholer
Germany1961 Posts
I now know why Byzantium hated Venice with a passion that words canot tastefully desribe  I am in a strange game where Austria had gotten Burgundy and then got PUd by France. Not the most healthy thing for balance in Europe. So i tried to break them up. The fun thing is, they are also allied to Russia. Because, everybody autorivals you, but it's no thang for the two biggest blobs to ally each other. The war does not play out as much as i'd like, to support Austria, i have to walk around Hungary, so i am late to the party of let's attack the 80k stack in the mountains. They pretty much cancel each other out, but france wins more, i turn to Russia who is sieging my crimean holdings, can't turn it there yet though. Then Austria peaces out. So, to get land access to venice and Austria, i attack Hungary to split off Croatia from them. 4 Provinces, 45 AE. The first AE i got with christian nations for 100 years. Immediately, a coalition of all of italy, switzerland etc forms and when the truce with France is off The Venetian Byzantian Punitive war starts. France is allied to Venice as well of course, so France jumps in, calls in Russia and i am in a war with the top 3 military nations + all of the coalition.... 400k against 110000 men. FUCKING A! | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
What a dislike as well, rebels. Why are they so strong? In my Brandenburg game they popped up with stacks of 20 while my force limit was 27 and they whooped my ass, even though I had higher morale, tradition, a leader etc. And this happens really often. When I was bigger and had a force limit of about a 100, they spawned stacks of 60. How am I supposed to keep them down when they get good generals and fight like beasts + when one is at war. I mean, you can obviously suppress them but still, they shouldn't spawn in such big stacks. When there are rebel problems, normally, all nations are fucked except for the big ones. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
The reforms stopped then(until recently, when he somehow got a lot of authority) and I said fuck you Austria and didn't renew my alliance. I annexed Mecklemburg and have two new vassals(Hesse and Frankfurt). Problem now is that my heir died(happened around 4 times so far in this specific game) and my current ruler is 72 years old. Any idea what to do? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Tczr6fG.png) | ||
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Simberto
Germany11795 Posts
Worst thing that can happen is if you do not have an heir who is of age when your king dies, you get into a regency council. That is generally not good, but not catastrophic either. You will lose some legitimacy while the council is going on, and you can not declare a war. You can still honor alliances though. That continues until you get a king, either by your heir coming to age, or if you do not have an heir though some noble or something. Events that you can not influence, basically. But it usually happens rather quickly. You can not really influence any of that, and it is not really problematic either. It is kind of annoying to have to fight to regain your PUs though. So basically, the worst that can happen is ~10 years during which you can not start a war. | ||
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Lucumo
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