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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
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Makro
France16890 Posts
any beginners tips ? (background : i played CIV and total war) | ||
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Bourneq
Sweden800 Posts
On June 29 2014 19:54 Makro wrote: just bought it on steam, i can't stand the tutorial even if i did a huge part of it, time to begin this game any beginners tips ? (background : i played CIV and total war) Watch playthroughs on youtube! | ||
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Makro
France16890 Posts
nice idea, i totally forgot about this | ||
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Simberto
Germany11716 Posts
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RvB
Netherlands6261 Posts
On June 29 2014 19:54 Makro wrote: just bought it on steam, i can't stand the tutorial even if i did a huge part of it, time to begin this game any beginners tips ? (background : i played CIV and total war) Be patient, the time line is from 1444 to 1820 so use it. | ||
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Euronyme
Sweden3804 Posts
On June 26 2014 00:02 Anesthetic wrote: Actually you still can't take a nations capital in this situation, if you look closely the AI actually moves their capital if it is isolated making it just another province that you can just demand. This is a pretty easy tactic to take the captial of super huge countries, take a ring of land around their capital thereby isolating it and making the AI move it . Also in general, if you want to know if you can take a nations capital when u start a war just look at what percentage it takes to vassilize them, in general if its 100% or below you can fully annex them or simply take their capital, anything above that u have to knock them down. No, you can take capitols if they're separated from the rest of the country. Cologne is a good example. Köln starts out separated with the other province and is easy pickings. An interesting thing though is that if you choose to take the capitol in a war, you can't take anything else. For instance if you've conquered a ring around Paris, you win the war, you occupy everything - you get the option to either pick whatever you want, but not Paris; or pick Paris, but have the rest of the peace deal options greyed out. | ||
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annedeman
Netherlands350 Posts
i strongly feel this is the best way to quickly learn the basics, at least for me it was. a couple of tips: for finding alliances take people who can help best beat the greatest risks for your survival(or ally these risks themselves), also unless you want them for naval superiority do not choose england as the AI sucks at cross sea wars. whenever i fight powers that are at least similar in size i try sieging a few heavily defendable provinces(think rivers and mountains), and whenever they attack a stack, I move all my nearby armies to that province, terrain modifiers are brutal and vital for winning fights vs stronger opponents never ever attack an army up a mountain(and preferably also not over rivers) unless your numerical advantage is huge and they can't reinforce , having good commanders(its semi random but dependent on army tradition) is another huge factor in fights, if an opponent is divided over straights(ottomans or denmark) try to gain naval superiority when a large part of their army is on the other side of the straight and trap that army. ps oh and preferably only attack strong opponents when they are occupied in another war(vs a reasonable opponent not vs some small minor powers) also when i siege those provinces i have my army split up in like 1/3 1/3 1/3 with a commander with each army i am not sure if other players do this but i like to get 1/4th of my armies to be mercenaries, while they are expensive, you can just disband them outside of wars, mostly because this preserves manpower which is a vital resource, makes your army recuperate losses faster and mercenaries do not count to war exhaustion. before going in any war check the army ledger in the right bottom screen to find the army and manpower strengths of each nation about to participate in the war, you can also find the naval strengths there | ||
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
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Chocolate
United States2350 Posts
On June 30 2014 04:35 WindWolf wrote: Been playing a little bit as France on earliest starting date. Been doing ok so far in my war against England, but I still have a feeling that my economy is a bit to weak. What am I doing wrong most likely? You are coring what you have conquered right? And your stability isn't super low, I hope? France doesn't get a super strong economy IME until the 100 years war is over, you've annexed your vassals, and the Burgundian inheritance event occurs. Taking England's continental territory should help a lot with trade power in the Bordeaux node, and some of those territories have high base tax to begin with. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11716 Posts
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WindWolf
Sweden11767 Posts
On June 30 2014 04:42 Chocolate wrote: You are coring what you have conquered right? And your stability isn't super low, I hope? France doesn't get a super strong economy IME until the 100 years war is over, you've annexed your vassals, and the Burgundian inheritance event occurs. Taking England's continental territory should help a lot with trade power in the Bordeaux node, and some of those territories have high base tax to begin with. No, I haven't cored anything yet. Is it possible to core something while still being at war (I'm still learning this game)? Good thing I'm playing this game slowly (I'm at the end of 1447) | ||
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 30 2014 13:34 WindWolf wrote: No, I haven't cored anything yet. Is it possible to core something while still being at war (I'm still learning this game)? Good thing I'm playing this game slowly (I'm at the end of 1447) You can only core provices you're owning, so it's not enough to occupy them in a war, you need to conquer them by getting them in the peace treaty, then core them afterwards. The fact that you are at war doesn't matter though, as long as the province is yours. That's pretty much how you play an aggressive game in EU4: Make war, conquer provinces, core them. Once all your provinces are cored, you're ready for your next war. Coring provinces takes quite a while and having a lot of uncored provinces is hard to handle (because of revolt risk etc), so it's what keeps you from expanding way too fast (together with aggressive expansion). | ||
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Simberto
Germany11716 Posts
On June 30 2014 16:28 Tobberoth wrote: You can only core provices you're owning, so it's not enough to occupy them in a war, you need to conquer them by getting them in the peace treaty, then core them afterwards. The fact that you are at war doesn't matter though, as long as the province is yours. That's pretty much how you play an aggressive game in EU4: Make war, conquer provinces, core them. Once all your provinces are cored, you're ready for your next war. Coring provinces takes quite a while and having a lot of uncored provinces is hard to handle (because of revolt risk etc), so it's what keeps you from expanding way too fast (together with aggressive expansion). Small caveat: You can not core provinces if you are at war with someone else with a core in that province, no matter if you own them or not. And you should also keep a loot at your aggressive expansion. Too much of that and you are going to have to fight everyone. Regarding England, you are probably gonna have a bad time trying to invade their mainland, so your best guess is to take as many of the continental provinces as you can after sieging all of them. You can always take more in a later war, you have cores on them so you don't need to find a CB anyways. One important thing beginners usually lack is moderacy (Is that even a word?). You don't need to take everything in one war. Take some things. Deal with the overextension and let the AE bleed off if necessary. Then start a new war and take more things. You have a lot of time. You don't need to get everything you want before 1450. As France, the main threats to your existence are Burgundy and Austria. Try to avoid fighting them in the beginning, rather take small stuff here and there if possible. And integrate your vassals over the next ~50 years. Then try to concentrate on fighting one of those two when they are weak. You should probably be kinda nice to Castille so you don't have to deal with those guys backstabbing you. Once you control a territory that roughly equals modern day France you are pretty much an unstoppable Juggernaut. | ||
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Animzor
Sweden2154 Posts
On June 29 2014 19:54 Makro wrote: just bought it on steam, i can't stand the tutorial even if i did a huge part of it, time to begin this game any beginners tips ? (background : i played CIV and total war) I learned by playing. There seems to be millions of things to do in the game but the vast majority isnt available to you until later. So whenever something new pops up, like wtf is trade power? you just google/wiki it and learn as you go. It's very effective. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
Anyway, progressed rather smoothly so far. There are kinda weird coalition mechanics though. I forged a claim in the beginning on Anhalt and immediately got three people into a coalition when my guy was discovered. That made no sense. Afterwards, I got into an alliance with Bohemia and Poland and it was easy sailing from there. Eventually Bohemia broke away, Poland formed Commonwealth and I annexed more and more provinces. The problem: massive coalition. Eventually, they decided to punish me but luckily, some time before, I got into an alliance with France. With them and Commonwealth, I beat Austria, Denmark and all the smaller states. Some years later, most left the coalition but when I annexed another province and didn't give it back when the HRE leader said so, everyone joined again. In the second war, we won again but at that point Commonwealth was attacked by Russia and I dishonored the alliance since Russia was getting massive and we would have had no chance against him. The alliance with France was enough to continue however and I always picked someone off when he left the coaltion. Commonwealth got destroyed by pretty much everyone. Eventually, I got into an alliance with Russia and thus had the two most powerful nations by my side. Funny thing is, Russia's leader died young(at 38 or something) and I was the same dynasty and had a marriage and was at 99 prestige or something. So they got into a personal Union under me and Austria decided to go to war over that, with the gigantic coaltion behind him. After several years, we won eventually. They had one over 100k stack and some smaller stacks while France had some troops elsewhere. Was such a long and drawn out war but this got me three vassals: Hanse, Trier and Friesland. Now I'm gonna try and become Emperor of the HRE with France as my ally and Russia in a Personal Union. What a sick game so far ^_^ This was a screenshot immediately after the war: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/PU5bvEA.png) ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/rhr76jH.png) btw: How can I configure notices that I don't see anywhere? Like, I know you can get a message when you finished forging a claim. But I don't get any pop-up, message at the bottom or the right. | ||
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myzael
Poland605 Posts
On July 02 2014 08:02 Lucumo wrote: btw: How can I configure notices that I don't see anywhere? Like, I know you can get a message when you finished forging a claim. But I don't get any pop-up, message at the bottom or the right. Game menu->message settings. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10834 Posts
I never had even one of these things ever happen ever when the AI played these countries :D… | ||
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Simberto
Germany11716 Posts
Prussia and Commonwealth are pretty rare, though. | ||
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