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parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-24 19:27:57
October 24 2016 19:27 GMT
#3641
How is Japan / Korea to play for Eastern country? In terms of difficulty level
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 24 2016 20:32 GMT
#3642
On October 25 2016 04:27 parkufarku wrote:
How is Japan / Korea to play for Eastern country? In terms of difficulty level

This was quite some time ago (Art of War or El Dorado patch), but I found Korea to be on a medium difficulty level. Not a walk in the park but not the hardest challenge out there.

My focus was on being on the defensive vs. Japan while slowly eating the Manchurian tribes and eventually other parts of eastern Asia. When Russia arrived to me I started being a bit more cautious however, as they changed opinion back-and-forth a bit.
EZ4ENCE
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 25 2016 03:57 GMT
#3643
thats like the last time i attempt great khan
fuck that achievement and everything about it
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
October 25 2016 16:31 GMT
#3644
I was sieging Stockholm and everytime an enemy army attacked me i got the -2 roll , why is that? something has changed? I was controlling the coast with my ships as well.
nimbim
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany985 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-25 18:38:34
October 25 2016 18:37 GMT
#3645
They changed forts so there is value in not dismantling them anywhere you've conquered one. Relevant changes:
Retreat paths for armies that have just lost battles will now always properly check if the path is blocked by forts.
If you enter battle while in an enemy province with a fort, you will be treated as the attacker in battle and incur that province's terrain penalties.
Aegwynn
Profile Joined September 2015
Italy460 Posts
October 26 2016 01:28 GMT
#3646
On October 26 2016 03:37 nimbim wrote:
They changed forts so there is value in not dismantling them anywhere you've conquered one. Relevant changes:
Retreat paths for armies that have just lost battles will now always properly check if the path is blocked by forts.
If you enter battle while in an enemy province with a fort, you will be treated as the attacker in battle and incur that province's terrain penalties.

thank you
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 26 2016 03:05 GMT
#3647
On October 26 2016 10:28 Aegwynn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2016 03:37 nimbim wrote:
They changed forts so there is value in not dismantling them anywhere you've conquered one. Relevant changes:
Retreat paths for armies that have just lost battles will now always properly check if the path is blocked by forts.
If you enter battle while in an enemy province with a fort, you will be treated as the attacker in battle and incur that province's terrain penalties.

thank you

Personally ill always keep forts around my border and dismantle the ones far inside i.e where no one is ever gonna get to
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 28 2016 09:53 GMT
#3648
[image loading]

that was uhh moderately interesting. went and did master of india and rising sun but wanted to fuck around with the revolution government a bit
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parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
October 31 2016 00:18 GMT
#3649
Just played as Japan, got fucked by the vassals. First thing when they smell blood is declare war on you. Economy is so crappy that I can barely afford to make anything
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 02:15:42
October 31 2016 02:15 GMT
#3650
On October 31 2016 09:18 parkufarku wrote:
Just played as Japan, got fucked by the vassals. First thing when they smell blood is declare war on you. Economy is so crappy that I can barely afford to make anything

should start as a vassal not as japan its self

i think when i did it i started as the northern most one, not the one on ainu but the one below, that and the one on the bottom left is really good too
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Day_Walker
Profile Joined December 2013
104 Posts
October 31 2016 16:03 GMT
#3651
I just bought the big EU4 bundle on steam. Any suggestions on what expansions to use and who to play as for my first game? For reference I've played 79 hours of CK2 and 0 hours of any EU.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6291 Posts
October 31 2016 16:24 GMT
#3652
Is Mare Nostrum worth it? It's on the steam sale and I'm thinking about buying it.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 31 2016 16:37 GMT
#3653
Any tips for playing as Austria? It's something that I wanted to try for a while but it just hasn't happened yet.
EZ4ENCE
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-31 17:32:55
October 31 2016 17:31 GMT
#3654
On November 01 2016 01:03 Day_Walker wrote:
I just bought the big EU4 bundle on steam. Any suggestions on what expansions to use and who to play as for my first game? For reference I've played 79 hours of CK2 and 0 hours of any EU.


Use all expansions You have. No reason to hold on. You will be overwhelmed either way, but using all expansion from the start will mean You dont need to relearn things.

As to starting country: Ottomans are probably the best (easiest by far), some easy country offering different experiences are also Spain (colonizing and discovering New World), France (military powerhouse sorrounded by enemies/targets), Austria (diplomatic-HRE focus).
Pathetic Greta hater.
Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4768 Posts
October 31 2016 17:39 GMT
#3655
On November 01 2016 01:37 WindWolf wrote:
Any tips for playing as Austria? It's something that I wanted to try for a while but it just hasn't happened yet.


Try to secure Personal Unions with Bohemia/Hungary and/or Burgundian Inheritence. Getting one of those three will make Your life much easier. Ottomans and France are Your biggest threats (Poland is dengerous only after they kill Teotonic Order)
Pathetic Greta hater.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-01 05:26:26
November 01 2016 05:25 GMT
#3656
On November 01 2016 02:39 Silvanel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 01:37 WindWolf wrote:
Any tips for playing as Austria? It's something that I wanted to try for a while but it just hasn't happened yet.


Try to secure Personal Unions with Bohemia/Hungary and/or Burgundian Inheritence. Getting one of those three will make Your life much easier. Ottomans and France are Your biggest threats (Poland is dengerous only after they kill Teotonic Order)

Another good thing to do is to go to war with burgandy and just take their capital, unless they changed it it'll assign their new capital inside the HRE which will give you a huge boost to IA early.

another thing is you can do the bug to get part of saxony for free, its really a matter of keeping the states size small while keeping them alive. when reformation hits you want to force convert everyone and force release as many states as you can.

its alot harder to do now since you cant get france as an ally, but if you can revoke or at worst pass the reform to stop wars by like 1620~ you should be in great shape to form HRE and crush all of europe.

On November 01 2016 02:31 Silvanel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 01:03 Day_Walker wrote:
I just bought the big EU4 bundle on steam. Any suggestions on what expansions to use and who to play as for my first game? For reference I've played 79 hours of CK2 and 0 hours of any EU.


Use all expansions You have. No reason to hold on. You will be overwhelmed either way, but using all expansion from the start will mean You dont need to relearn things.

As to starting country: Ottomans are probably the best (easiest by far), some easy country offering different experiences are also Spain (colonizing and discovering New World), France (military powerhouse sorrounded by enemies/targets), Austria (diplomatic-HRE focus).



you could not use cossacks if i had to give a recommendation of what not to use, but i dont think its a huge deal.
art of war + common sense are 100% required though.
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-11-01 06:57:08
November 01 2016 06:56 GMT
#3657
Does EUIV ever go for lower than what it's currently going on steam (like 25$ for the bundle)? I don't really have time to play it right now, but I've always wanted to... and if this is the best price I'm likely to get, might as well buy now.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
November 01 2016 07:31 GMT
#3658
On November 01 2016 15:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Does EUIV ever go for lower than what it's currently going on steam (like 25$ for the bundle)? I don't really have time to play it right now, but I've always wanted to... and if this is the best price I'm likely to get, might as well buy now.

Im not sure what it is about the game that always made me wanna play it, even if it is simple letters and colors haha.

on mine it shows europa default for 9.99 but with everything @ 75% off i dont think youll get much lower. if you dont want to buy all the new expansions but still want an enjoyable experience id recommend art of war + common sense/ rd to el dorado conquest of paradise/wealth of nations?(all 3 are sold in a bundle i think)

mare nostrum cossacks and rights of man are fun but not really required(cossacks being my least favorite because the favor system gives me cancer tbh)

id say yes
and enjoy hours of frustration but hours of enjoyment when the game goes your way!
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
November 01 2016 08:39 GMT
#3659
On November 01 2016 16:31 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 15:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Does EUIV ever go for lower than what it's currently going on steam (like 25$ for the bundle)? I don't really have time to play it right now, but I've always wanted to... and if this is the best price I'm likely to get, might as well buy now.

Im not sure what it is about the game that always made me wanna play it, even if it is simple letters and colors haha.

on mine it shows europa default for 9.99 but with everything @ 75% off i dont think youll get much lower. if you dont want to buy all the new expansions but still want an enjoyable experience id recommend art of war + common sense/ rd to el dorado conquest of paradise/wealth of nations?(all 3 are sold in a bundle i think)

mare nostrum cossacks and rights of man are fun but not really required(cossacks being my least favorite because the favor system gives me cancer tbh)

id say yes
and enjoy hours of frustration but hours of enjoyment when the game goes your way!

Only other paradox game I've played is CK2, which I bought last year...only played it once.

... And by once I mean 170 hours in like a month (to be honest it was padded a bit by leaving the game on when leaving the computer and stuff but holy shit addictive).

Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 01 2016 10:08 GMT
#3660
On November 01 2016 15:56 Liquid`Jinro wrote:
Does EUIV ever go for lower than what it's currently going on steam (like 25$ for the bundle)? I don't really have time to play it right now, but I've always wanted to... and if this is the best price I'm likely to get, might as well buy now.


https://www.steamprices.com/us/sub/51211/europa-universalis-iv-collection

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