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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4725 Posts
October 19 2016 10:45 GMT
#3621
I will ask again. Does anyone know how discovery sprerad works right now? Was it changed? I am playing as Otto and in 1642 i still cant see New World. Do i need to steal maps or take exploration?
Pathetic Greta hater.
Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1901 Posts
October 19 2016 12:33 GMT
#3622
For european nations it seems to work as it worked before, after 50 years discoveries from nations of your techgroup are become common knowledge. I am not sure how ottomans fit into that, as they have their own techgroup. So, i don't know for sure.
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
October 19 2016 15:17 GMT
#3623
On October 19 2016 10:59 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2016 09:32 parkufarku wrote:
I remember I dropped this because of how ridiculous rebels were - how strong their armies were and how often they popped up. Are they still a problem w the recent patches?

I can confidently say that they fixed rebels and made it make a lot more sense and added a lot of mechanics to tie it in with the rest of the game more.

is the version you're talking about the autonomy and month 10% percentage chance adding version of rebels?


I think I played really in the beginning
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-20 06:08:40
October 20 2016 05:15 GMT
#3624
fuck the great khan
stupid achievement.
muscovy cedes half their land to novgorod in a war with poland lithuania uzbek

can still field like 50k units on like 5 provinces
k

i dont like playing with cossacks period, but otherwise you get cock blocked by timurids pretty much constantly, but with cossacks they die to tribes within a couple of years. but horde unity is just dogshit as fuck
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4725 Posts
October 20 2016 07:50 GMT
#3625
Great Khan is one of achivments i had most fun accomplishing. Granted that was even before Art of War but should be fun still.
Pathetic Greta hater.
419
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Russian Federation3631 Posts
October 20 2016 18:09 GMT
#3626
I really like this expansion, tons of great mechanics to play with (mind you, both my starts have been European, did a Coptic Knights game and am currently trying Norwegian Wood + Mare Nostrum double achievement run). This and the growing popularity of playing on VH among experienced players makes the strategy talk a lot more interesting as well.

Here is my game so far:

Here are the army sizes. One of the great things about this difficulty setting is that you get big final bosses going deep into lategame. Its over halfway past the campaign and there are still 6-7 majors that could roll my army.

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Might be that it's harder now, as the AE seems to have changed. In my Coptoman campaign every Sunni in the world (from Morocco to Brunei) wants to coalition against me for taking most of the Saudi Arabian area, Mamluks and half of Persia. Previously it would not be this bad. In Europe no-one gives a fly though.


This was hotfixed, AE doesn't propagate nearly as hard now
?
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-21 18:04:57
October 21 2016 18:03 GMT
#3627
I've been trying to get back in the game. Got my ass handed to me trying to play Spain (one of the easiest countries to start off with). Civil war breaking out, can't attack Aragorn without Austria on my dick. I kind of want to try to go against history and take over Portugal by forming an alliance with England...is that possible if I picked historical mode?

Who should I attack / focus alliance on?
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 22 2016 06:34 GMT
#3628
On October 22 2016 03:03 parkufarku wrote:
I've been trying to get back in the game. Got my ass handed to me trying to play Spain (one of the easiest countries to start off with). Civil war breaking out, can't attack Aragorn without Austria on my dick. I kind of want to try to go against history and take over Portugal by forming an alliance with England...is that possible if I picked historical mode?

Who should I attack / focus alliance on?

should ally austria or aragon if they arent rival'd and wait/pray for a female heir to get the union. if this looks very unlikely ally france and shit on aragon and form spain that way.

castile if you can make it past the civil war as a new player is easy, but they have argubly one of the worst starts with a shitty king and bad events to go with it
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parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-10-22 14:57:32
October 22 2016 14:50 GMT
#3629
^ yeah I noticed that. Civil war, and a ruler who is like 1/2/2 (seriously what kind of drunken retard did they put on throne)

Not as easy as I thought it would be. I can ally with France easily but England is a big threat. I don't want England to start attacking me when I'm exhausting my resources to wipe off Aragon. What can you recommend to keep Civil War from happening?

One thing I noticed: My allies almost never come to my aid when I start a war, but the enemies's allies are always there for them, regardless of how "unworthy" their ally is. For example, a big country like England entering a war just for a small country like Ganavara or something.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 22 2016 21:23 GMT
#3630
On October 22 2016 23:50 parkufarku wrote:
^ yeah I noticed that. Civil war, and a ruler who is like 1/2/2 (seriously what kind of drunken retard did they put on throne)

Not as easy as I thought it would be. I can ally with France easily but England is a big threat. I don't want England to start attacking me when I'm exhausting my resources to wipe off Aragon. What can you recommend to keep Civil War from happening?

One thing I noticed: My allies almost never come to my aid when I start a war, but the enemies's allies are always there for them, regardless of how "unworthy" their ally is. For example, a big country like England entering a war just for a small country like Ganavara or something.

anytime i play castile/spain the big thing is to watch where the rebels spawn and dont accept the popups without an army on them. you shouldnt try to kill aragon by any means unless it looks like a union isnt possible, you can also claim throne on them and force a union too if they dont have super allies

if you arent playing with cossacks you can call them in every 10 years, which is where france is the big help since they can beat most countries by themselves, austria not that great anymore since they added rivalry with france you cant get austria + france which means youre unbeatable at the early part of the game.

i always do a kill granada, maybe ally portugal to get a hold in africa, then start colonizing like crazy once you make spain you can backstab france even though its hard as fuck to kill them 99% of the time.

main thing for civil war is to keep stab and stuff high so it never triggers
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Broetchenholer
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1901 Posts
October 22 2016 22:21 GMT
#3631
if you play with rights of men, disinherit your heir. It will make it very probable that oyu get the union with aragon after 10 years. The best ally is probably Austria, burgundy can be very strong against France but you kinda want them to go down in flames to inherit their lands Killing Portugal is easy as long as they are only allied to england at the start.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11799 Posts
October 23 2016 17:30 GMT
#3632
Is Ottomans still the easiest start? The only problem being if you try to actually fight the big alliance blocks that tend to show up near you?

Perhaps Ming might be easy now a days, rarely see the AI explode. Most of the time when playing the game the first time you don't finish it so the slower tech shouldn't really matter.
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
October 23 2016 21:37 GMT
#3633
I just spawned the colonization institution as kongo :-) incredibly lucky, I think I discovered the new world a few months before it triggered, very curious how hard this will screw over Europe :-)
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 23 2016 22:43 GMT
#3634
On October 24 2016 02:30 Yurie wrote:
Is Ottomans still the easiest start? The only problem being if you try to actually fight the big alliance blocks that tend to show up near you?

Perhaps Ming might be easy now a days, rarely see the AI explode. Most of the time when playing the game the first time you don't finish it so the slower tech shouldn't really matter.

no such thing as a slower tech anymore
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
parkufarku
Profile Blog Joined March 2014
882 Posts
October 24 2016 01:38 GMT
#3635
On October 24 2016 07:43 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 02:30 Yurie wrote:
Is Ottomans still the easiest start? The only problem being if you try to actually fight the big alliance blocks that tend to show up near you?

Perhaps Ming might be easy now a days, rarely see the AI explode. Most of the time when playing the game the first time you don't finish it so the slower tech shouldn't really matter.

no such thing as a slower tech anymore


Is Westernization not a thing anymore for Eastern countries?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13868 Posts
October 24 2016 03:11 GMT
#3636
On October 24 2016 10:38 parkufarku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 07:43 arb wrote:
On October 24 2016 02:30 Yurie wrote:
Is Ottomans still the easiest start? The only problem being if you try to actually fight the big alliance blocks that tend to show up near you?

Perhaps Ming might be easy now a days, rarely see the AI explode. Most of the time when playing the game the first time you don't finish it so the slower tech shouldn't really matter.

no such thing as a slower tech anymore


Is Westernization not a thing anymore for Eastern countries?

No westernization and increased cost for tech is out completly. in its place is a series of "institutions" that your country can adapt that spread around the world from its scource. every year you don't have that institution your tech costs go up. There are 8 of these over the game I think.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 24 2016 04:35 GMT
#3637
On October 24 2016 12:11 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2016 10:38 parkufarku wrote:
On October 24 2016 07:43 arb wrote:
On October 24 2016 02:30 Yurie wrote:
Is Ottomans still the easiest start? The only problem being if you try to actually fight the big alliance blocks that tend to show up near you?

Perhaps Ming might be easy now a days, rarely see the AI explode. Most of the time when playing the game the first time you don't finish it so the slower tech shouldn't really matter.

no such thing as a slower tech anymore


Is Westernization not a thing anymore for Eastern countries?

No westernization and increased cost for tech is out completly. in its place is a series of "institutions" that your country can adapt that spread around the world from its scource. every year you don't have that institution your tech costs go up. There are 8 of these over the game I think.

Only countries that start with any kind of tech penalty are hordes, except for yeren jianzhou and haixi i believe.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 24 2016 07:48 GMT
#3638
thought getting sultan of rum + dar al islam would be easy
nope france personal unions spain

fuck my life.
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Silvanel
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Poland4725 Posts
October 24 2016 09:31 GMT
#3639
I might have to abandon my "One Tag" as Otto and settle for normal WC. Hope i can manage even this. Ming is taking much too long and as aresult i am behind in Europe.
Pathetic Greta hater.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
October 24 2016 19:02 GMT
#3640
On October 24 2016 18:31 Silvanel wrote:
I might have to abandon my "One Tag" as Otto and settle for normal WC. Hope i can manage even this. Ming is taking much too long and as aresult i am behind in Europe.

with ming rarely dying anymore they can be a real bitch to take
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