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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
August 10 2012 04:39 GMT
#1281
Lol Magic. Fuck me.

The mystery picks can't be any good. The Lakers will never be a lotto team; Denver won't be for the forseeable future with Iggy on board (I love this trade for Denver...); and Philly will maybe be a low lotto team at best (but likely a Playoff team).

So if I'm reading this right the Magic trade Dwight for some late first rounders, Vucevic, Afflalo and Harrington?

FML if you're a Magic fan. Just let him walk if that's really the best you can do.

Can someone tell me how this is a better package than the Houston option (for the Magic that is)?
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
August 10 2012 04:44 GMT
#1282
No way Stern can nix this deal. It's actually a good deal for every team bar Orlando (and in a big way).

Stern was in a unique position as owner of the Hornets where he could actually do something but the NBA owns none of these teams involved and must let them act on their own accord--no matter how bad the perceived deal might be. If he were to to veto this deal it would open the NBA to all manner of lawsuits I imagine (ironically, the Lakers could probably invoke antitrust laws on this one).
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
August 10 2012 04:46 GMT
#1283
Imagine if Nash and Kobe weren't geriatric...
nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
August 10 2012 04:50 GMT
#1284
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1’s for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.


I'm not going to bother watching basketball this season. Will definitely catch a few Warriors games, but honestly, fuck the NBA.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 10 2012 04:52 GMT
#1285
Howard's definitely an improvement if only because the Lakers need a real defensive presence in the paint, but they're not THAT much better effectively trading Bynum for Howard, especially considering his likelihood of resigning (I think Bynum would've been a much easier resign).
Remember Violet.
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 05:05:45
August 10 2012 05:03 GMT
#1286
If they get to the WCFs, he'll resign.

Also, wft. The salary cap is under $60 million. The Lakers salary is over $90 million. So much for paritiy.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 05:04:56
August 10 2012 05:03 GMT
#1287
don't think stern will veto this, i'm 99% confident. he got quite a bad backlash last time, but more importantly he has nothing to do with the franchises involved.

fuckin lakers man. it's like they're the only team in the league without a salary cap, you know? it's like the fuckin yankees

also, that deal above... there's no way the magic rejected that and accepted this one. i don't believe it.
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
August 10 2012 05:13 GMT
#1288
On August 10 2012 13:50 nemY wrote:
Show nested quote +
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1’s for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.


I'm not going to bother watching basketball this season. Will definitely catch a few Warriors games, but honestly, fuck the NBA.


That's not a great deal either for the Magic though. All those players are average at best and the picks would have likely been pretty medicore given how good the Nets would be with Howard and Deron on board.

I think Houston had a pretty decent offer on the table but who knows what happened with that. I'd love to hear Hennigan's thoughts on why he thinks this trade is better than the Nets and or Houston deals.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
August 10 2012 05:19 GMT
#1289
On August 10 2012 14:13 RowdierBob wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2012 13:50 nemY wrote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Final Nets offer Orlando rejected in July: Lopez, Humphries (1 year, $9.6M), Brooks, 4 unprotected No. 1’s for Howard, JRich, Duhon, Clark.


I'm not going to bother watching basketball this season. Will definitely catch a few Warriors games, but honestly, fuck the NBA.


That's not a great deal either for the Magic though. All those players are average at best and the picks would have likely been pretty medicore given how good the Nets would be with Howard and Deron on board.

I think Houston had a pretty decent offer on the table but who knows what happened with that. I'd love to hear Hennigan's thoughts on why he thinks this trade is better than the Nets and or Houston deals.


iunno though, projected standings (yeah they don't really mean shit) suggest that 76ers nuggets are gonna do quite well. magic are gonna crash probably but 4 unprotected first round picks seems more enticing.

i really wanna see that houston deal lol. kept hearing commentators say that they were literally giving away their team for dwight howard

Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 10 2012 05:28 GMT
#1290
Two theories. 1) He thought he could turn a deal that was actually good and waited and waited until everyone got tired of it.
2) He overvalues those draft picks. I made a rant about that earlier in the thread. :p
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
zeratul_jf
Profile Joined October 2011
United States808 Posts
August 10 2012 05:43 GMT
#1291
Thats a pretty scary team for the Lakers. I dont know how they managed this one but they did
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
August 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#1292
Lmfao wow

the 50 fans left at orlando games are gonna boo howard hard
sung_moon
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10110 Posts
August 10 2012 06:04 GMT
#1293
As a Sixer's fan/philly resident fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck I'm going to miss Iggy T_T
Forever Young
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
August 10 2012 06:08 GMT
#1294
On August 10 2012 14:28 Jerubaal wrote:
Two theories. 1) He thought he could turn a deal that was actually good and waited and waited until everyone got tired of it.
2) He overvalues those draft picks. I made a rant about that earlier in the thread. :p


If you're going to go for picks though you've surely got to go for high ones?! Philly, Denver and the Lakers don't look like teams that are going to be yielding high lotto picks within even the next 5 years. Doesn't make sense to me.

What makes it worse is they're taking on more salary? Bringing in Vucevic/Afflalo/Harrington is ~$61 mill in salary and they're only sending out like ~$38 mill in D12 and JRich? They should at least be sending out Turkeyglue if they're really going to do this.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 10 2012 06:10 GMT
#1295
As a Lakers fan, all I can do is smile
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imBLIND
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2626 Posts
August 10 2012 06:11 GMT
#1296
This was probably the best the Magic could do without trying to tie on their shitty contracts w/ Howard. Everyone knows the Magic can't keep Howard, the Magic know they can't keep Howard, so every team in the league has the upper hand in bargaining with the Magic. Personally, I don't think Orlando could've done much better, as there aren't that many contracts taht are similar to Howard's in the first place. Orlando is in the middle of some major reconstruction anyways, so while they didn't get the best of everything, they almost got everything they wanted (they still have some shit contracts like turgolu and jj redick just to name a few).

That being said, as a Laker fan, all worship the Mitchgod.
im deaf
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-10 06:18:14
August 10 2012 06:13 GMT
#1297
I seriously don't know how the NBA salary cap works. The Laker's cap figure next year if this goes down is well above 98 million. How does that even fucking work?

I mean I know you can always make trades but man this is ridiculous. They're bordering on 2 teams worth of salary.
Remember Violet.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 10 2012 06:27 GMT
#1298
I love how the Lakers keep the rape train going. Orlando is as usual, stupid.

Denver is going to be a MONSTER team next year, or at least has the potential to be.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 10 2012 06:29 GMT
#1299
On August 10 2012 15:10 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
As a Lakers fan, all I can do is smile


:3
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13293 Posts
August 10 2012 06:36 GMT
#1300
On August 10 2012 15:27 Ace wrote:
I love how the Lakers keep the rape train going. Orlando is as usual, stupid.

Denver is going to be a MONSTER team next year, or at least has the potential to be.


Haha, yeah. Philly, Denver and LA are actually all better from this trade, but Orlando is getting so monumentally shit on it beggars belief as to why they'd okay it...

Maybe they'll "miraculously" win the lotto in a couple of year ala the Hornets or Chicago.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
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