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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 02 2012 01:19 GMT
#101
Restricted Free Agency is always hilarious. Can't believe Batum is only a RFA, I feel like he's been in the league forever.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
July 02 2012 09:20 GMT
#102
do people actually think hibbert for 14.5/ year isn't worth it? I'm probably being a homer, but if can get him and re-sign batum, I'd consider it a successful offseason.


people heard 'max' and thought he was getting a joe johnson contract, but hibbert was still on his rookie contract after being the 17th pick, its about market price for a player of his caliber.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 02 2012 12:46 GMT
#103
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RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13006 Posts
July 02 2012 13:18 GMT
#104
On July 02 2012 18:20 Holcan wrote:
do people actually think hibbert for 14.5/ year isn't worth it? I'm probably being a homer, but if can get him and re-sign batum, I'd consider it a successful offseason.


people heard 'max' and thought he was getting a joe johnson contract, but hibbert was still on his rookie contract after being the 17th pick, its about market price for a player of his caliber.


Bit overrated if you ask me but the league isn't swimming with competent Cs so I guess you could justify it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
July 02 2012 13:58 GMT
#105
C is a premium position so I think that's a fair amount of money to give to him
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
July 02 2012 14:58 GMT
#106
In a league where mediocre big men like Etam Thomas and such can get 10-15M per year, yes.
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slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#107
$14.5 over 4 for Roy Hibbert. Frankly, that's the kind of deal you come to regret.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 16:23:31
July 02 2012 16:22 GMT
#108
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play in the fourth quarter.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
July 02 2012 16:34 GMT
#109
On July 03 2012 01:22 Holcan wrote:
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play


:D

I am not surprised that Asik got that much money and that the Bulls don't want to match it. Looks all good to me ^.^
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 02 2012 16:41 GMT
#110
On July 03 2012 01:22 Holcan wrote:
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play in the fourth quarter.

Highlighted your key word. Ask him if he or most of Clippers fans still are.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 16:42:47
July 02 2012 16:42 GMT
#111
14m for Hibbert isn't bad imo. A little bit of a gamble maybe but worth it if he plays how you hope/think he can.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 02 2012 16:42 GMT
#112
On June 30 2012 09:12 Qaatar wrote:
If there's one guy who will stay a Heat player for the rest of his career, it'll be Wade. Riley will trade LBJ before he dares to trade Wade.


No one will ever trade LBJ. Ever.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
July 02 2012 18:38 GMT
#113
i dont suppose anyone knows a +1 roach zvt strat?
starleague forever
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 19:23:25
July 02 2012 19:20 GMT
#114
On July 03 2012 01:22 Holcan wrote:
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play in the fourth quarter.


I was NOT happy. That was a terrible deal the second the Warriors made it. You can probably even look at my old posts, I never thought that was a good deal. And the Clippers regret it. So will the Blazers. It's not the extra money to Paul Allen, its the pressure on your cap.

Yes, sometimes you just bite the bullet and sign the contract for too many years. But don't fool yourself into thinking you got great value. You're paying for the upside up front and if it doesn't pan out, it's a sunk cost.

EDIT: Although, the Hibbert deal is comprable than DeAndre's because you're paying for his peak years of athleticism at 4 million more a year. Hibbert is 2 years older and played 29 minutes a game last season. So. Not saying he's bad or anything, he's pretty good, actually. But it isn't a $14 milliion a year player as he is now.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 21:12:51
July 02 2012 21:04 GMT
#115
I might host a Fantasy league for this season on ESPN. Depends on my work schedule and how many leagues I'll be in but it's a possibility at the moment.

ETA: and for the Kobe lovers

[image loading]
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 02 2012 21:27 GMT
#116
On July 03 2012 06:04 Ace wrote:
I might host a Fantasy league for this season on ESPN. Depends on my work schedule and how many leagues I'll be in but it's a possibility at the moment.

ETA: and for the Kobe lovers

[image loading]


Yay for Bulls' defense! :D

According to DA (David Aldridge); "Nets "very close" to acquiring Joe Johnson from Hawks for Farmar, Petro, Morrow, Williams, Stevenson and protected pick (Houston)."

So they'll keep Marshon Brooks & Wallace.. Starting lineup would be D-Will, Brooks, Joe Johnson, Wallace & Humphries (though the latter is just an announcement away from being gone)
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 02 2012 21:30 GMT
#117
Brooklyn Nets are stupid. Billy King is unbelievably stupid. Joe Johnson is just not good enough, and that team will have monster issues even making it to the playoffs with the current shape of the East.

They are going to get fucking killed.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 02 2012 21:39 GMT
#118
On July 03 2012 06:30 Ace wrote:
Brooklyn Nets are stupid. Billy King is unbelievably stupid. Joe Johnson is just not good enough, and that team will have monster issues even making it to the playoffs with the current shape of the East.

They are going to get fucking killed.


I'm guessing you have a decent overview of various teams current cap space, so I'll ask this; could the Nets afford to pick up Chris Kaman?
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 21:42:54
July 02 2012 21:41 GMT
#119
I dont know what he's going for but I highly doubt it. I heard they haven't signed Gerald Wallace yet but at 10M per year:

Wallace + D.Williams (max) + iso Joe (max) = 60.5 million per year on just those 3 players.

ETA: Luxury tax line is around 70 million I think. Pretty much if you are signing a guy to max $$ status he better be one of the 5 best players in the league or have some insanely rare and valuable talent.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 02 2012 21:45 GMT
#120
On July 03 2012 06:41 Ace wrote:
I dont know what he's going for but I highly doubt it. I heard they haven't signed Gerald Wallace yet but at 10M per year:

Wallace + D.Williams (max) + iso Joe (max) = 60.5 million per year on just those 3 players.

ETA: Luxury tax line is around 70 million I think. Pretty much if you are signing a guy to max $$ status he better be one of the 5 best players in the league or have some insanely rare and valuable talent.


Ok, then you're 100% right, the Nets' move doesn't make shit sense unless they don't mind luxury tax up the butt..
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
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