• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 09:37
CEST 15:37
KST 22:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies18Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview2herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026)5Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview5[ASL21] Ro4 Preview: On Course12
Community News
Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League0Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double0Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO8 Results2Weekly Cups (May 4-10): Clem, MaxPax, herO win1Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !18
StarCraft 2
General
herO wins GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Code S Season 2 (2026) - RO12 Preview Weekly Cups (May 11-17): Classic wins double Code S Season 1 (2026) - RO4 & Finals Preview Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists
Tourneys
GSL Code S Season 2 (2026) Crank Gathers Season 4: BW vs SC2 Team League GSL Code S Season 1 (2026) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Maestros of The Game 2 announcement and schedule !
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players
External Content
Mutation # 527 Hell Train The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 526 Rubber and Glue Mutation # 525 Wheel of Misfortune
Brood War
General
25 Years Since Brood War Patch 1.08 VPN experiences vespene.gg — BW replays in browser (Spoiler) ASL21 Winner's Interview [ASL21] Finals Preview: Two Legacies
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL21] Grand Finals Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Any training maps people recommend? Muta micro map competition [G] Hydra ZvZ: An Introduction Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
streaming software Strange computer issues (software)
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Esports Organizations: Raisi…
TrAiDoS
Why RTS gamers make better f…
gosubay
ramps on octagon
StaticNine
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1392 users

NBA Offseason 2012 - Page 6

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 84 Next
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 02 2012 01:19 GMT
#101
Restricted Free Agency is always hilarious. Can't believe Batum is only a RFA, I feel like he's been in the league forever.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
July 02 2012 09:20 GMT
#102
do people actually think hibbert for 14.5/ year isn't worth it? I'm probably being a homer, but if can get him and re-sign batum, I'd consider it a successful offseason.


people heard 'max' and thought he was getting a joe johnson contract, but hibbert was still on his rookie contract after being the 17th pick, its about market price for a player of his caliber.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
July 02 2012 12:46 GMT
#103
--- Nuked ---
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13423 Posts
July 02 2012 13:18 GMT
#104
On July 02 2012 18:20 Holcan wrote:
do people actually think hibbert for 14.5/ year isn't worth it? I'm probably being a homer, but if can get him and re-sign batum, I'd consider it a successful offseason.


people heard 'max' and thought he was getting a joe johnson contract, but hibbert was still on his rookie contract after being the 17th pick, its about market price for a player of his caliber.


Bit overrated if you ask me but the league isn't swimming with competent Cs so I guess you could justify it.
"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
rebdomine
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
6040 Posts
July 02 2012 13:58 GMT
#105
C is a premium position so I think that's a fair amount of money to give to him
"Just because you are correct doesn't mean you are right!"
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
July 02 2012 14:58 GMT
#106
In a league where mediocre big men like Etam Thomas and such can get 10-15M per year, yes.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
July 02 2012 16:07 GMT
#107
$14.5 over 4 for Roy Hibbert. Frankly, that's the kind of deal you come to regret.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Holcan
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2593 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 16:23:31
July 02 2012 16:22 GMT
#108
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play in the fourth quarter.
Reference The Inadvertant Joey, Strong talented orchastrasted intelligent character.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
July 02 2012 16:34 GMT
#109
On July 03 2012 01:22 Holcan wrote:
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play


:D

I am not surprised that Asik got that much money and that the Bulls don't want to match it. Looks all good to me ^.^
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
July 02 2012 16:41 GMT
#110
On July 03 2012 01:22 Holcan wrote:
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play in the fourth quarter.

Highlighted your key word. Ask him if he or most of Clippers fans still are.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 16:42:47
July 02 2012 16:42 GMT
#111
14m for Hibbert isn't bad imo. A little bit of a gamble maybe but worth it if he plays how you hope/think he can.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
July 02 2012 16:42 GMT
#112
On June 30 2012 09:12 Qaatar wrote:
If there's one guy who will stay a Heat player for the rest of his career, it'll be Wade. Riley will trade LBJ before he dares to trade Wade.


No one will ever trade LBJ. Ever.
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
July 02 2012 18:38 GMT
#113
i dont suppose anyone knows a +1 roach zvt strat?
starleague forever
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 19:23:25
July 02 2012 19:20 GMT
#114
On July 03 2012 01:22 Holcan wrote:
how so? most men of his caliber get paid that much, and aren't top 5 in blocks. not like paul allen is scared to lose a few dollars.


I mean, deandre just got 10 million and I bet you were happy, and he can't even play in the fourth quarter.


I was NOT happy. That was a terrible deal the second the Warriors made it. You can probably even look at my old posts, I never thought that was a good deal. And the Clippers regret it. So will the Blazers. It's not the extra money to Paul Allen, its the pressure on your cap.

Yes, sometimes you just bite the bullet and sign the contract for too many years. But don't fool yourself into thinking you got great value. You're paying for the upside up front and if it doesn't pan out, it's a sunk cost.

EDIT: Although, the Hibbert deal is comprable than DeAndre's because you're paying for his peak years of athleticism at 4 million more a year. Hibbert is 2 years older and played 29 minutes a game last season. So. Not saying he's bad or anything, he's pretty good, actually. But it isn't a $14 milliion a year player as he is now.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 21:12:51
July 02 2012 21:04 GMT
#115
I might host a Fantasy league for this season on ESPN. Depends on my work schedule and how many leagues I'll be in but it's a possibility at the moment.

ETA: and for the Kobe lovers

[image loading]
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 02 2012 21:27 GMT
#116
On July 03 2012 06:04 Ace wrote:
I might host a Fantasy league for this season on ESPN. Depends on my work schedule and how many leagues I'll be in but it's a possibility at the moment.

ETA: and for the Kobe lovers

[image loading]


Yay for Bulls' defense! :D

According to DA (David Aldridge); "Nets "very close" to acquiring Joe Johnson from Hawks for Farmar, Petro, Morrow, Williams, Stevenson and protected pick (Houston)."

So they'll keep Marshon Brooks & Wallace.. Starting lineup would be D-Will, Brooks, Joe Johnson, Wallace & Humphries (though the latter is just an announcement away from being gone)
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
July 02 2012 21:30 GMT
#117
Brooklyn Nets are stupid. Billy King is unbelievably stupid. Joe Johnson is just not good enough, and that team will have monster issues even making it to the playoffs with the current shape of the East.

They are going to get fucking killed.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 02 2012 21:39 GMT
#118
On July 03 2012 06:30 Ace wrote:
Brooklyn Nets are stupid. Billy King is unbelievably stupid. Joe Johnson is just not good enough, and that team will have monster issues even making it to the playoffs with the current shape of the East.

They are going to get fucking killed.


I'm guessing you have a decent overview of various teams current cap space, so I'll ask this; could the Nets afford to pick up Chris Kaman?
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-02 21:42:54
July 02 2012 21:41 GMT
#119
I dont know what he's going for but I highly doubt it. I heard they haven't signed Gerald Wallace yet but at 10M per year:

Wallace + D.Williams (max) + iso Joe (max) = 60.5 million per year on just those 3 players.

ETA: Luxury tax line is around 70 million I think. Pretty much if you are signing a guy to max $$ status he better be one of the 5 best players in the league or have some insanely rare and valuable talent.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
VENDIZ
Profile Joined October 2010
1575 Posts
July 02 2012 21:45 GMT
#120
On July 03 2012 06:41 Ace wrote:
I dont know what he's going for but I highly doubt it. I heard they haven't signed Gerald Wallace yet but at 10M per year:

Wallace + D.Williams (max) + iso Joe (max) = 60.5 million per year on just those 3 players.

ETA: Luxury tax line is around 70 million I think. Pretty much if you are signing a guy to max $$ status he better be one of the 5 best players in the league or have some insanely rare and valuable talent.


Ok, then you're 100% right, the Nets' move doesn't make shit sense unless they don't mind luxury tax up the butt..
SaGe fighting!!~~~~~~
Prev 1 4 5 6 7 8 84 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Wardi Open
11:00
#88
WardiTV1090
IntoTheiNu 817
TKL 401
Rex133
Ryung 114
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
TKL 401
sc2solar 161
Rex 133
Ryung 114
Railgan 86
ProTech75
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 58484
Calm 8482
Jaedong 1286
Mini 1091
EffOrt 908
BeSt 470
Hyuk 412
Larva 343
Light 311
Soulkey 291
[ Show more ]
ggaemo 288
Snow 264
actioN 259
firebathero 242
Nal_rA 144
Mind 140
Rush 130
Sharp 126
Pusan 119
Mong 98
[sc1f]eonzerg 74
Barracks 52
scan(afreeca) 47
Shinee 43
ToSsGirL 37
Aegong 33
JulyZerg 32
Sexy 27
soO 20
Movie 17
IntoTheRainbow 13
Terrorterran 13
ajuk12(nOOB) 12
Noble 11
Rock 7
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Dendi2068
XaKoH 676
XcaliburYe312
League of Legends
Reynor94
Counter-Strike
olofmeister2944
byalli1111
allub228
Other Games
B2W.Neo1018
hiko665
Beastyqt576
Lowko525
Happy344
crisheroes303
amsayoshi73
ArmadaUGS62
Liquid`VortiX1
Organizations
StarCraft: Brood War
UltimateBattle 1762
Counter-Strike
PGL959
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• HappyZerGling50
League of Legends
• Jankos4271
• Stunt379
Other Games
• WagamamaTV241
Upcoming Events
Monday Night Weeklies
2h 23m
Replay Cast
10h 23m
Kung Fu Cup
21h 23m
GSL
1d 19h
herO vs Classic
Cure vs Clem
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
GSL
2 days
Maru vs SHIN
Zoun vs Rogue
WardiTV Spring Champion…
2 days
SKillous vs Strange
Lambo vs Strange
Ryung vs Strange
Lambo vs Ryung
Ryung vs SKillous
Lambo vs SKillous
Replay Cast
3 days
Maestros of the Game
3 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Lambo vs SHIN
Solar vs Rogue
herO vs Clem
Maestros of the Game
4 days
IPSL
5 days
ZZZero vs WorsT
Julia vs eOnzErG
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Maestros of the Game
5 days
IPSL
6 days
Dragon vs Artosis
dxtr13 vs Hawk
BSL
6 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

ASL Season 21
2026 GSL S1
Heroes Pulsing #1

Ongoing

2026 KK StarCraft Pro League
BSL Season 22
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
KK 2v2 League Season 1
YSL S3
Acropolis #4
CSCL: Masked Kings S4
SCTL 2026 Spring
WardiTV Spring 2026
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: King of Kings
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
Bounty Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.