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On May 20 2013 16:57 DragoonTT wrote:
Too bad about this game, had so much potential, but the developer/publisher just screwed it up royally. No char wipe and just seven hours rollback means the worst abusers (those who did it since beta started) get away untouched, and large parts of the bugged currency will now probably flood the servers.
Anyone got a replacement F2P game? Really liked the model here where you have access to all content and, eventually, even to almost all items without having to spend...Probably can't run Rift, already had problems with Neverwinter when the screen got too crowded. (and it seems like the promotion to get the expansion for free ran out, so even if it goes F2P you still miss out on content...)
Rift takes a lot less to run than neverwinter.
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Welp, back to MapleStory until something else comes up.
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I agree this game had some serious potential....kind of a shame that the AD market got destroyed by that exploit.
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I think the best thing is that apparently the exact same kind of exploit was used in a game this company made previously and the exploit is only possible because of entry level coder failure. Fun stuff. Shows how desperate everyone wants a piece of that mmo cake. Garbage after garbage gets poured to the market.
You know why WoW was so succesful? Not because it totally reinvented gaming, because it didn't, it copied from its predecessors. It succeeded because Blizzard produced quality, at their own pace. Last few years all we get is rushed out products that maybe stand on their feet for half a leveling experience, if even that, and the survivors of that hurdle die to lack of end game.
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I find it hilarious how mad people are at the recent AH exploits. The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta. Sure there is reason for them to be angry at the shitty coders responsible for the exploit, but they're the ones who made a bad investment.
I also don't understand how destroying the AD market ruins the rest of the game. Any "veterans" care to enlighten me?
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On May 22 2013 17:52 OPman wrote:
I find it hilarious how mad people are at the recent AH exploits. The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta. Sure there is reason for them to be angry at the shitty coders responsible for the exploit, but they're the ones who made a bad investment.
I also don't understand how destroying the AD market ruins the rest of the game. Any "veterans" care to enlighten me?
Because as with any game that has the auction house, the auction house becomes the game. It's always the fastest way to make money, and it's the easiest way to get good gear. By destroying that you destroy the integrity of the game.
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On May 20 2013 16:57 DragoonTT wrote:
Anyone got a replacement F2P game? Really liked the model here where you have access to all content and, eventually, even to almost all items without having to spend...Probably can't run Rift, already had problems with Neverwinter when the screen got too crowded. (and it seems like the promotion to get the expansion for free ran out, so even if it goes F2P you still miss out on content...)
Running Rift will not be a problem if you could play Neverwinter. And honestly, it's not a big deal with the expansion, it's a free to play MMORPG, if you like it, paying for an expansion is barely worth mentioning considering the amount of time you'll be sinking into it.
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The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta.
People who paid 50-200$ for a probably terrible F2P Game have way bigger problems. 
With RIFT going F2P I see no reason to play Neverwinter. RIFT is a really solid MMO and it had a Sub-System for like 2 years and I even played it to maxlevel. Its a solid game, but just not enough to justify 12€/month.
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On May 22 2013 20:03 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 17:52 OPman wrote:
I find it hilarious how mad people are at the recent AH exploits. The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta. Sure there is reason for them to be angry at the shitty coders responsible for the exploit, but they're the ones who made a bad investment.
I also don't understand how destroying the AD market ruins the rest of the game. Any "veterans" care to enlighten me? Because as with any game that has the auction house, the auction house becomes the game. It's always the fastest way to make money, and it's the easiest way to get good gear. By destroying that you destroy the integrity of the game.
All I'm getting from this is that you can't make money really fast or get gear really easily.
"FUCK IT MIGHT AS WELL NOT PLAY AT ALL!"
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On May 23 2013 04:15 OPman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2013 20:03 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 22 2013 17:52 OPman wrote:
I find it hilarious how mad people are at the recent AH exploits. The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta. Sure there is reason for them to be angry at the shitty coders responsible for the exploit, but they're the ones who made a bad investment.
I also don't understand how destroying the AD market ruins the rest of the game. Any "veterans" care to enlighten me? Because as with any game that has the auction house, the auction house becomes the game. It's always the fastest way to make money, and it's the easiest way to get good gear. By destroying that you destroy the integrity of the game. All I'm getting from this is that you can't make money really fast or get gear really easily. "FUCK IT MIGHT AS WELL NOT PLAY AT ALL!"
I had 3 accounts so I could have a 60 of each class. I played the game. It sucks. I'm stating why it sucks. Someone asked why the AH getting fucked up matters. I explained it. Sorry you think this game is great but it's not. No reason to attack me personally though.
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On May 23 2013 04:20 Infernal_dream wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 04:15 OPman wrote:On May 22 2013 20:03 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 22 2013 17:52 OPman wrote:
I find it hilarious how mad people are at the recent AH exploits. The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta. Sure there is reason for them to be angry at the shitty coders responsible for the exploit, but they're the ones who made a bad investment.
I also don't understand how destroying the AD market ruins the rest of the game. Any "veterans" care to enlighten me? Because as with any game that has the auction house, the auction house becomes the game. It's always the fastest way to make money, and it's the easiest way to get good gear. By destroying that you destroy the integrity of the game. All I'm getting from this is that you can't make money really fast or get gear really easily. "FUCK IT MIGHT AS WELL NOT PLAY AT ALL!" I had 3 accounts so I could have a 60 of each class. I played the game. It sucks. I'm stating why it sucks. Someone asked why the AH getting fucked up matters. I explained it. Sorry you think this game is great but it's not. No reason to attack me personally though.
I'm not attacking you personally, and I never said the game was by any means great. I feel like the majority of the community feels that way, and I just don't understand it. Isn't it possible to not spend any money on the game and still beat all the content?
Assuming the AH isn't mandatory to get to late game, lets take it out of the equation. I'm more interested in how rest of the game holds up. Specifically end-game dungeons and PvP. Are the boss fights the same as I've seen the first 40 levels? Is the PvP balanced? Is there any incentive to continue playing?
These are the things that make or break games in my opinion, albeit less so in a F2P micro-transaction MMO with an auction house.
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If you have a proper 5 men group you are done quite fast atm. Two weeks of semi-hardcore gaming will get you to the point of running out of content and ingame motivation. There is supposed to be more content, we will see when that comes and how it looks. I am past that point and still have fun at the game so I am still playing.
People do complain about the amount of adds in PvE, which is imo an issue with a few fights and fine with most others unless you have a bad group.
In PvP the offensive potential is much higher than the defensive between equally geared players, so knowing when and how to initiate fights plays a big role. I've not run premade 5v5, so I can not comment on that.
Without the AH up you might feel the urge to buy ZEN if you are of the impatient kind. If you can wait a week that shouldnt be an issue.
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On May 23 2013 05:56 OPman wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2013 04:20 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 23 2013 04:15 OPman wrote:On May 22 2013 20:03 Infernal_dream wrote:On May 22 2013 17:52 OPman wrote:
I find it hilarious how mad people are at the recent AH exploits. The people who are getting screwed the hardest are people who invested money in a free to play open beta. Sure there is reason for them to be angry at the shitty coders responsible for the exploit, but they're the ones who made a bad investment.
I also don't understand how destroying the AD market ruins the rest of the game. Any "veterans" care to enlighten me? Because as with any game that has the auction house, the auction house becomes the game. It's always the fastest way to make money, and it's the easiest way to get good gear. By destroying that you destroy the integrity of the game. All I'm getting from this is that you can't make money really fast or get gear really easily. "FUCK IT MIGHT AS WELL NOT PLAY AT ALL!" I had 3 accounts so I could have a 60 of each class. I played the game. It sucks. I'm stating why it sucks. Someone asked why the AH getting fucked up matters. I explained it. Sorry you think this game is great but it's not. No reason to attack me personally though. I'm not attacking you personally, and I never said the game was by any means great. I feel like the majority of the community feels that way, and I just don't understand it. Isn't it possible to not spend any money on the game and still beat all the content? Assuming the AH isn't mandatory to get to late game, lets take it out of the equation. I'm more interested in how rest of the game holds up. Specifically end-game dungeons and PvP. Are the boss fights the same as I've seen the first 40 levels? Is the PvP balanced? Is there any incentive to continue playing? These are the things that make or break games in my opinion, albeit less so in a F2P micro-transaction MMO with an auction house.
How is you quoting me then saying what you said not attacking me personally? Lol. That's the definition of attacking someone.
The end game PVE is the same as the rest of the game. Adds, adds, and more adds. There are no dungeon mechanics. Just adds. PvP is imbalanced as hell. Almost any class the specs properly can set themself up for one shot kills. My cw could do it, my GF could almost do it, my TR can do it. There's no balance. There never will be unfortunately.
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Only point of Pvp is to get a set of gear at 60 with a gear score good enough for most everything bar Castle Never in about a day. And after grinding that crap with probably 70% of my games having afks/disconnects/stuck in whatever loading limbo I can tell you that it will never be remotely fun-let alone balanced. If you want to play a point capping pvp I'm sure there are hundreds of games that do it better.
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Anyone on Dragon still playing?
60 CW nota@nota1
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So what are the best foundry missions?
I'm interested in story/atmosphere stuff the most. Normal dungeon crawls I still have enough to play on my list
For stuff I liked as comparison:
+ Show Spoiler [Enjoyed a lot] +
The Dweomerkeepers (C)
From the Shadows (C)
Planescape - The Skeleton Key (C)
An Orphan's Dream
Secrets of Blacklake
The Fear that Freeze (ignoring all the grammar/spelling errors
+ Show Spoiler [Decent would also play] +
Witch Hammer Chronicle (C)
Mysterious Organization
The Adventures of Sherlock Colms (C)
+ Show Spoiler [Didnt like] +
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Enjoying the game very much. Btw, dunno why people are on about the AD exploit. Exactly the same happened in D3. Anyway, they tracked down the people that exploited big and banned them, plus rolled back the servers a few hours for all the small fish. It shouldn't affect anyone else playing.
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yea the economy seems to be back to pre exploit levels.
@Zocat: unfortunately didnt get around to many foundry missions yet, but i will check out your recommended ones.
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I am 10 lvl in and every where I go, I constantly go to instances and more instances. Is this how the game is? I understand the need for them to have these for quest line which is fine but when I am entering a city or entering a questing zone, it constantly take me to a new instance. Is the whole world made up of a bunch of small instances where you just keep zoning in and out when you enter different area? Is it possible to move from 1 city to another city without the need of a loading screen?
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How's the user generated content shaping up to be? I noted the list above, but I'm wondering about a more general impression. It was the only reason I was interested in the game, and the one quest chain I completed when I tried it out was quite fun (can't remember the name).
I could see myself playing the game a lot if the thing really takes off, but I don't want to go back to play through like 5 decent quests/chains and then have nothing to do.
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