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One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
May 15 2006 21:08 GMT
#201
IMHO Sniper>Lich in one line.
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 16 2006 00:00 GMT
#202
... i want to see a sniper survive against the lich, good lich is killing at 6, a good sniper isnt getting that guarrantee
Get it by your hands...
Paragon
Profile Joined February 2006
United States295 Posts
May 16 2006 03:27 GMT
#203
This guide is very, very outdated.
Not that Subway Wouldn`t still be pro, just not as pro as other things.. It`d be the Mumyung of sandwich places, I guess. - SweeTLemonS[TPR]
shinigami
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada423 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-16 03:36:59
May 16 2006 03:28 GMT
#204
Sven doesn't deal most damage, warden does.


Sven deals most damage to buildings. Warden's criticals are useless against it.

And as a nerubian assassin + sniper player, I can tell you those 2 characters are rigged!

I achieve a 80% win rate with NA, and a 88% win rate with Sniper.
It's all in the micro!

I always start out with ring of basilius, and then grab a ring of health. Those give me a tactical advantage, as well as an advantage in pushing. Thus, I can focus on enemy hero harass using mana burn or just plain walking up to him/her and making a hit. When I have enough mana to go in for the kill, I do it. If I don't have the mana, I stay in harass mode.

I have an affinity towards playing STR heroes, because I like the micro intensivity of it. Panda is definitely my favourite. I generally use his ultimate to make kills during a 2v1 gank. Cyclone one, kill the other. And then run like a pansy. I dislike INT the most because of their overly simplisitic way of killing things. I enjoy AGI heroes such as NA, Sniper, PA, AM, SA, BH, and etc...

I like how easy it is for Phantom Assassin to become tanked!
But I hate how she can lose that so easily to a few blademails...
She becomes useless once a STR hero wears 2-3 of them! Doing so much damage back to yourself, and the STR hero has more HP too.

But definitely, STR is the way to go! Most challenging, most rewarding.
I was thinking about joining a debate club, but I was talked out of it.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 16 2006 04:04 GMT
#205
na for me is so pointless, you waste all your mana to get one kill early
Get it by your hands...
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
May 16 2006 04:05 GMT
#206
none of your heroes will hold up in a league game =P with the exception of maybe am. there are definitely ways around each and every one of them. teamwork > individual heroes. however i think lich vs sniper is a good middle matchup, if the sniper is good.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-16 04:48:16
May 16 2006 04:45 GMT
#207
On May 16 2006 09:00 Judicator wrote:
... i want to see a sniper survive against the lich, good lich is killing at 6, a good sniper isnt getting that guarrantee


You're not forgetting that Sniper has IMBA Range, do you?
And I also think that 1-1 most IMBA hero is Bane Elemental.

Edit: Wanna try Sniper-Lich?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 16 2006 09:24 GMT
#208
On May 16 2006 13:45 One Page Memory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2006 09:00 Judicator wrote:
... i want to see a sniper survive against the lich, good lich is killing at 6, a good sniper isnt getting that guarrantee


You're not forgetting that Sniper has IMBA Range, do you?
And I also think that 1-1 most IMBA hero is Bane Elemental.

Edit: Wanna try Sniper-Lich?


1v1 bane is overlooked hardest solo by alot of players, he has a sleep that can kill a gank attempt, a nuke that kills the early int nukers, his ulti of course kills anybody that gets greedy enough to try to attack you infront of tower/creeps.
lich is hard since he doesn't lapse much in his early nukes thanks to ritual
Get it by your hands...
rawrx
Profile Joined February 2006
United States380 Posts
May 16 2006 10:35 GMT
#209
dota's really fun and easy to learn game, but if you truly wanna be a pro, try pwning with keeper of light.. hardest hero in the game in my opinion
Heen
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Korea (South)2178 Posts
May 16 2006 13:39 GMT
#210
1:1 dota is fucking lame.

It's like New Ice Hunters in BW.
('''(G_G/'''')
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
May 16 2006 14:27 GMT
#211
keeper isnt too bad, i can't play morphling at all, its just not possible for me to do well with him
Get it by your hands...
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17753 Posts
May 16 2006 14:44 GMT
#212
Keeper is very easy, he gets bazillions of cash and with necronomicon you can really pwn others. Morphling really owns at all stages, he has a lot of damaging stuff, aoe spells, blink-like stuff etc.

Hard to play for me is ursa for example, maybe because I didn't play this hero much and I lack experience with it. Techies is god damn annoying to play (both as and against it).
I like heroes that have some crazy skills and require some knowledge/micro like Aiushtha, Pugna and Magina - this are definitely my favourite (bane and siren are nice too, but this are my top 3).
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Xeroth
Profile Joined July 2005
United States432 Posts
May 16 2006 15:00 GMT
#213
People would be better off going to www.dota-allstars.com
Everyones favorite hick.
One Page Memory
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Bulgaria2145 Posts
May 16 2006 16:42 GMT
#214
Ok, I uploaded some random reps of mine.
Not all of the opponents are good, but I think the items build is more important.
There are few solos ...
Almost forget - watch for player kamukag3e.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=59C6DAC8031ACB22

Any comments?
Jin Youngsoo before game with Savior: But, I demanded myself (of composure) by saying: Same old, same old - only a Zerg, only a Zerg
s4rk
Profile Joined December 2003
Philippines137 Posts
May 16 2006 23:38 GMT
#215
keeper is good for feeding but the build that my friend used to own with him is bdagger dagon skadi and bot somewhere along the way...

ursa is powerful as most int characters are food for him. you just have to surprise them and kill them quickly so they can't react. Lothars as a first item is highly advisable for him.

o rly
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
May 17 2006 00:07 GMT
#216
if anyone wants to 1v1 dota msg me, im fatalz on east^_^

-ap -sm i'll pick first so don't worry;)
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
tiffany
Profile Joined November 2003
3664 Posts
May 17 2006 02:45 GMT
#217
don't play short mode!

hardest hero for me is probably syllabear. i'm baaad at delegating items.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17753 Posts
May 17 2006 07:05 GMT
#218
On May 17 2006 09:07 OverTheUnder wrote:
if anyone wants to 1v1 dota msg me, im fatalz on east^_^

-ap -sm i'll pick first so don't worry;)


1. DotA 1v1 is completely pointless
2. -sm suxxx ass

Understood?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
OverTheUnder
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States2929 Posts
May 17 2006 07:32 GMT
#219
i know i just do it when i cant find inhouses, tda and pub games are pointless too^_^


I need to get on another CAL team and an invite to the IHL;O
Honor would be taking it up the ass and curing all diseases, damn how stupid can people get. -baal http://puertoricanbw.ytmnd.com/
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-05-17 07:50:03
May 17 2006 07:44 GMT
#220
i play short mode just to see how fast i can push down mid its amusing as hell when you got mid down and other team is like wtf-ing

i honestly think weaver is the hardest, ursa is not team friendly at all and what tiffany said early is right, you ll never see some of those heroes in leagues cause well pushing down a lane >>> ganking.
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