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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
My build (I'll list the important items): hands of midas/power treads/sange and yasha and myself (range mode until late game) power treads/hyperstone/basher/basher on bear the rest of the items depends on your opponents Use rabid on your bear if you have to choose between yourself and the bear. You will get so much entangle and bash that if you're decently lucky, you can kill stealth assassin before he can return invisible. | ||
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OverTheUnder
United States2929 Posts
edit: this is just another possible early game bear build from what heen posted. It basically revolves around keeping the bear alive and make use of pushing abilities while your in the process of building a basher;O Just make sure Sylla has enough survivability when you do this though. | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
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One Page Memory
Bulgaria2145 Posts
My impressions: Best way is to have Syllabear maxed at 7th level and synergy maxed at 8, no special, no second. Special once at 9 level, then max roar. At start I byu Ring + 2 Branches. No boots - doesn't need them. Then - recipe for blood. After that go for Boots and Sange+Yash, while byuing some rings (+2 armor, since bear has only 6) for the bear. Then - Power Thread for the bear and if possible - Boots of Travel. At this poin all differs - Bashers are good, HyperStone is also very good, return damage to the syllabear if too many strenght heroes. Basicly Lone Druid is very good at interval 7-16,17 level. If happened to not gather enough money till this moment you're screwed. | ||
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tiffany
3664 Posts
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beavis.smurf
United States339 Posts
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
I don't see the point of getting boots of travel on yourself. Power treads are better and cheaper on this character. He's pretty much good from lvl 12 to 25 imo. I don't know why you're saying that he gets worse after 16? Armor on the bear seems pretty useless to me. People will usually not go for your bear in a fight. | ||
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5HITCOMBO
Japan2239 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17868 Posts
On May 18 2006 06:11 Ethenielle wrote: I played my first dota game yesterday(whats dota short for anyways;p), got a hero named "Magnus" - weak as hell, didn't do SHIT damage and died instantly :| What am I supposed to do with the guy? 1. DotA = Defence of the Ancients 2. Magnus (Magnataur) is really pwn hero - extremely good for team games and very good for soloing, he has decent skills, pwn ultimate etc. you just have to learn how to play him. | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
He isn't for pwn4age killing. That isn't to say he can't fight but he is a steady non-sneaky hero. After your basic low lvl items, get a perseverance so you don't have to go to town. It will also help you spam your 300 dmg nuke which costs only 90 mana -_-; Later turn it into a battle fury and you will be a creeping god. Use your buffs on heros that deal the most damage/can get the most hits in (such as stealth assassin). If you're new to dota, try some of the easier heroes and after you have the general idea of how to play, you can start randoming with ease. Some of the easiest heroes (imo): Zeus, Stealth Assassin, Bounty Hunter, Luna, Lich There are tons more but I think the ones I listed are pretty effective for newbs. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17868 Posts
On May 18 2006 20:04 Heen wrote: Magnus is such a boring piece of shit :D He isn't for pwn4age killing. That isn't to say he can't fight but he is a steady non-sneaky hero. After your basic low lvl items, get a perseverance so you don't have to go to town. It will also help you spam your 300 dmg nuke which costs only 90 mana -_-; Later turn it into a battle fury and you will be a creeping god. Use your buffs on heros that deal the most damage/can get the most hits in (such as stealth assassin). If you're new to dota, try some of the easier heroes and after you have the general idea of how to play, you can start randoming with ease. Some of the easiest heroes (imo): Zeus, Stealth Assassin, Bounty Hunter, Luna, Lich There are tons more but I think the ones I listed are pretty effective for newbs. Why the hell did you mention only the tricky heroes that are really hard to play vs some decent oponents? Zeus - will get ganged and raped all the time so he can't grow/farm SA - wards early = VERY hard time for him BH - has really low hp and you really have to know how to play him, otherwise he's worth as much as shit Luna - why the hell most people get aghanim instead of refresher for her and why the hell they make int builds instead of getting stuff like satanic/buriza for her? Lich - only good for noob pubies or with decent team, otherwise this hero is pretty much useless (I can pwn him being solo vs him in a line with siren or sven, especially sven) Easy heroes are: Troll warlord - just go aura/stats, farm and get nice eq for dmg Bone - good in noob pubies - useless vs decent team, similar to troll warlord but you get ww Sniper - most boring hero ever, just go for stun/range in the beginning and try to find some wounded enemies to finish them off with your ulti, easy stuff Leoric - no need to elaborate | ||
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Heen
Korea (South)2178 Posts
The reasons you gave for why my list was bad can be applied to all heroes. The heroes you listed require decent farming and a solid build. That is a harder task for a newb than using very simple, yet deadly skills when he sees his enemies. Seems like you're just contradicting me for the hell of it. You also forget that since he is a newb, he will most likely be playing with other newbs/semi-newbs? Having a shitty troll in my team is far worse than a shitty zeus. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17868 Posts
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tiffany
3664 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17868 Posts
1. Lion ownage 2. Chen ownage With Chen I went for the mekansm/dagon build and did something like 12-3 (enemies were viper, sniper, tiny, leshrac and terror so it wasn't all that easy, especially with huge delay and night without sleep). I kind of enjoyed this game, many close calls and some nice pwnage. | ||
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oPtioNaLk
Korea (South)564 Posts
On May 18 2006 20:17 Manit0u wrote: Why the hell did you mention only the tricky heroes that are really hard to play vs some decent oponents? Zeus - will get ganged and raped all the time so he can't grow/farm SA - wards early = VERY hard time for him BH - has really low hp and you really have to know how to play him, otherwise he's worth as much as shit Luna - why the hell most people get aghanim instead of refresher for her and why the hell they make int builds instead of getting stuff like satanic/buriza for her? Lich - only good for noob pubies or with decent team, otherwise this hero is pretty much useless (I can pwn him being solo vs him in a line with siren or sven, especially sven) Easy heroes are: Troll warlord - just go aura/stats, farm and get nice eq for dmg Bone - good in noob pubies - useless vs decent team, similar to troll warlord but you get ww Sniper - most boring hero ever, just go for stun/range in the beginning and try to find some wounded enemies to finish them off with your ulti, easy stuff Leoric - no need to elaborate If you think a Lich is useless, you have not played in any good DotA games. He has insane harassing ability, can deny more easily with Dark Ritual and has a killer ultimate. Luna cannot be played as a fighter hero. Check her stat growth, her spells, etc. You can argue about that one but regardless Luna cannot survive w/o her extra mana pool/regen and extra hp. She is frail. Just because she has an attack enhancing aura does not mean she will be able to hang with the other designated agi heroes such as Clinkz, Anti Mage and Sniper. | ||
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Ethenielle
Norway1006 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17868 Posts
![[image loading]](http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/7595/screen7no.jpg) That is many buff, yes? | ||
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s4rk
Philippines137 Posts
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Manit0u
Poland17868 Posts
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