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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 24 2012 15:40 GMT
#1701
Got to love Scott Stevens.

*

It went off Henrik's stick and Neil just got a piece of it but it didn't change direction. Anyway, that's all irrelevant now.

I was just going through the Star today and I find it very ironic after my last post, lmao:

http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball/nba/article/1166504--kelly-moving-trucks-can-t-come-fast-enough-for-new-jersey-nets
Snarfs
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada1006 Posts
April 24 2012 16:12 GMT
#1702
On April 25 2012 00:34 wunsun wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2012 22:42 Hawk wrote:
Yeah I am a weirdo who loves defensive hockey. I think the 90s Devils teams beat me into submission, some kind of Stockholm Syndrome shit.

I really like the Preds out of the west, and I think the Kings really could do something this post season. However, based on how all these teams play, any one of them could emerge.

oh I almost forgot, the refs in the Sens game were fuckin' tards.



I didn't like the ref's call on the sens in the 1st and 2nd. Seemed like both teams were playing the same (same dirty plays), but only the Sens got called on them.

Regarding the goal, Neil definitely tried to kick it in. However, I think that the fact was that they weren't sure if he actually made contact. It seems like the skate goes over the puck.

There was nothing else in the video that would have caused the puck to accelerate at the moment in time when his skate passed over it. Lundqvist's stick is trying to pull it in the opposite direction and Michalek's wasn't close. I'm interested in hearing what the actual rule for 'inconclusive' is because it seems to me that if there's no other case for how the puck got across the line, that's pretty conclusive (i.e. it wasn't sliding in and it wasn't pushed in by a stick; therefore, I can conclude that it was kicked in).
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
April 24 2012 17:16 GMT
#1703
On April 25 2012 01:12 Snarfs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 00:34 wunsun wrote:
On April 24 2012 22:42 Hawk wrote:
Yeah I am a weirdo who loves defensive hockey. I think the 90s Devils teams beat me into submission, some kind of Stockholm Syndrome shit.

I really like the Preds out of the west, and I think the Kings really could do something this post season. However, based on how all these teams play, any one of them could emerge.

oh I almost forgot, the refs in the Sens game were fuckin' tards.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zpFHweSutAs


I didn't like the ref's call on the sens in the 1st and 2nd. Seemed like both teams were playing the same (same dirty plays), but only the Sens got called on them.

Regarding the goal, Neil definitely tried to kick it in. However, I think that the fact was that they weren't sure if he actually made contact. It seems like the skate goes over the puck.

There was nothing else in the video that would have caused the puck to accelerate at the moment in time when his skate passed over it. Lundqvist's stick is trying to pull it in the opposite direction and Michalek's wasn't close. I'm interested in hearing what the actual rule for 'inconclusive' is because it seems to me that if there's no other case for how the puck got across the line, that's pretty conclusive (i.e. it wasn't sliding in and it wasn't pushed in by a stick; therefore, I can conclude that it was kicked in).


I would have to say probably he kicked it in, but again, I'm not sure. If I had to guess, I would say he kicked. But I guess it wasn't conclusive.
Taku
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada2036 Posts
April 24 2012 19:16 GMT
#1704
Luongo willing to waive his no-trade wow what a guy
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wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
April 24 2012 19:56 GMT
#1705
I feel bad for Luongo. He gets blamed for almost all of the Canuck's problems. Game 1 & 2 losses can't really be attributed to him.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 24 2012 21:53 GMT
#1706
Can't really blame Luongo for anything this year, but he does need to go. The team clearly just doesn't have the confidence in him that they have in Schneider, and you can see that when they play.
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-24 21:59:57
April 24 2012 21:59 GMT
#1707
Sidney Crosby has said no to Canada for the world championships.

Its not like I had a whole lot of respect for guy anyways but if you fine to play in the playoffs vs Philly then your fine to play in the even tighter controled games of the IIHF. Minus respect points to 87

Speaking of IIHF I want them to teach NHL refs about consistancy. Every tournament they call the same stuff all the time and rules enforcement is excelent. Never hear about a blown call in a IIHF game.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 24 2012 23:20 GMT
#1708
I have zero problems with Sidney not competing. He doesn't feel like he's back up to speed and rather work on his conditioning, which is fine. There is nothing wrong with turning down the invitation when you don't think you are at the right level or where you need to be.

IIHF teaching the NHL refs? Please man. rofl
Sub40APM
Profile Joined August 2010
6336 Posts
April 24 2012 23:58 GMT
#1709
On April 25 2012 06:53 GolemMadness wrote:
Can't really blame Luongo for anything this year, but he does need to go. The team clearly just doesn't have the confidence in him that they have in Schneider, and you can see that when they play.

Very true. Whether in the playoffs or the last 2 months of the regular season watching the Luongo vs Scneider thing was pretty enraging. Considering how little offensive support Canucks provide Luo, starting from the last playoffs, I am surprised he didnt request a trade to somewhere else.
CorsairHero
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada9491 Posts
April 25 2012 00:08 GMT
#1710
On April 25 2012 08:20 StarStruck wrote:
I have zero problems with Sidney not competing. He doesn't feel like he's back up to speed and rather work on his conditioning, which is fine. There is nothing wrong with turning down the invitation when you don't think you are at the right level or where you need to be.

IIHF teaching the NHL refs? Please man. rofl

Agreed. Why run the risk of another concussion against some no name players.
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Thallis
Profile Joined September 2010
United States314 Posts
April 25 2012 00:26 GMT
#1711
On April 25 2012 06:59 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Sidney Crosby has said no to Canada for the world championships.

Its not like I had a whole lot of respect for guy anyways but if you fine to play in the playoffs vs Philly then your fine to play in the even tighter controled games of the IIHF. Minus respect points to 87

Speaking of IIHF I want them to teach NHL refs about consistancy. Every tournament they call the same stuff all the time and rules enforcement is excelent. Never hear about a blown call in a IIHF game.


Seriously? The world championships mean pretty much 0. People don't go for no reason, Sid's got a pretty good one. Criticising for this seems like you're just looking for reasons to hate him.
/)*(\
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 00:33:06
April 25 2012 00:32 GMT
#1712
I hate Crosby, but I support his decision. I'd rather have him playing next year and hating him rather than just hating the fact I can't hate on him anymore.
Brood War forever!
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
April 25 2012 04:29 GMT
#1713
On April 25 2012 06:59 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Sidney Crosby has said no to Canada for the world championships.

Its not like I had a whole lot of respect for guy anyways but if you fine to play in the playoffs vs Philly then your fine to play in the even tighter controled games of the IIHF. Minus respect points to 87

Speaking of IIHF I want them to teach NHL refs about consistancy. Every tournament they call the same stuff all the time and rules enforcement is excelent. Never hear about a blown call in a IIHF game.


...He plays in the playoffs because it's the playoffs. Why would he play in something which isn't really a big deal when he's at risk of being seriously hurt? Tons of players don't play in the world championships just because they don't want to, why don't you go complain about them?
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Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
April 25 2012 07:01 GMT
#1714
On April 25 2012 08:20 StarStruck wrote:
I have zero problems with Sidney not competing. He doesn't feel like he's back up to speed and rather work on his conditioning, which is fine. There is nothing wrong with turning down the invitation when you don't think you are at the right level or where you need to be.

IIHF teaching the NHL refs? Please man. rofl

Your implying the NHL is doing a good job reffing? LOL No. Calling the officals bad this year would be complimentary.

On April 25 2012 09:26 Thallis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:59 Orcasgt24 wrote:
Sidney Crosby has said no to Canada for the world championships.

Its not like I had a whole lot of respect for guy anyways but if you fine to play in the playoffs vs Philly then your fine to play in the even tighter controled games of the IIHF. Minus respect points to 87

Speaking of IIHF I want them to teach NHL refs about consistancy. Every tournament they call the same stuff all the time and rules enforcement is excelent. Never hear about a blown call in a IIHF game.


Seriously? The world championships mean pretty much 0. People don't go for no reason, Sid's got a pretty good one. Criticising for this seems like you're just looking for reasons to hate him.


Seeding for the olympics are on the line at this WHC so it means alot more then normal. I'd like Canada to avoid the USA/Sweden/Russia group if possible please. Having top seed should insure that.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 25 2012 13:22 GMT
#1715
Stop being ridiculous.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17470 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 14:31:34
April 25 2012 14:22 GMT
#1716
On April 25 2012 08:58 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 25 2012 06:53 GolemMadness wrote:
Can't really blame Luongo for anything this year, but he does need to go. The team clearly just doesn't have the confidence in him that they have in Schneider, and you can see that when they play.

Very true. Whether in the playoffs or the last 2 months of the regular season watching the Luongo vs Scneider thing was pretty enraging. Considering how little offensive support Canucks provide Luo, starting from the last playoffs, I am surprised he didnt request a trade to somewhere else.


they have less confidence in him because he is not as good as he used to be.

they provide better "offensive support" when Schneider is in net because they are more willing to take chances when he is in net because they know Schneider is better able to bail them out of the mistakes that happen when trying to create offense.

Schneider > Luongo

the entire Canucks organization can see this. I'd laugh so hard if he ended up on the Leafs.

On April 24 2012 06:58 Sub40APM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 23 2012 13:06 Orcasgt24 wrote:
On April 23 2012 13:02 Two_DoWn wrote:
Woooot Kings!

I still dont understand how Vancouver manages to make every single fanbase outside of BC hate them. But hey.

Nobody hates the worst teams. Only hate the best teams. Vancouver has been the best reg season team 2 years in a row.

The Canuck's problem is the same as the Crosby problem, the media gets on their dick hard and doesnt let up and everyone else finds that degree of slavish dick sucking just too much to bear. And also, as far as I remember no other GM in the league goes on national television and cries that the refs are unfair to his team.


no the Rangers get their goalie and coach to do that.
The Vancouver hatred thing has been going on for liek 40 years.

in 1972 the rest of Canada got pissed at Vancouver for boo-ing their players off the ice and saying "communism is better than capitalism".

in the right wing parts of Ontario... BC is labelled "The People's Republic of British Columbia" because its the highest taxed jurisdiction in North America... the whole free needle injection site thing.... all the grow ups in northern bc ...etc.
the 2 riots didn't help.

The hatred runs deep, its been around a long time and its just as much political as anything hockey related.

people are just looking for an excuse to hate vancouver in particular and BC in general... and the cheap shot diving whiners on the Canucks catalyze that process nicely.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-25 14:47:39
April 25 2012 14:43 GMT
#1717
He has less confidence because back in Florida he used to have on average 34 shots on him a night. The more pucks he sees; the better he gets and age is a factor.

Luongo won't end up on the Leafs.

Henrik has one outburst, so sure. Let's jump all over him.

Excuses are for the weak. The same way looking for calls is too. You cannot control things outside of your control, so you better man up and do your best always. I'll leave it at that.
Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8896 Posts
April 25 2012 14:47 GMT
#1718
Kind of off topic:

If Nick Lidstrom retires, EA Sports should scrap this whole, stupid, fan-vote for the NHL cover athlete and just put Lidstrom on the box. It'd be a classy move towards the best defenseman in the league over the last (almost) two decades.

Plus it'd preempt the inevitable renaming of the Norris trophy in his honor ;-)
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
April 25 2012 14:49 GMT
#1719
He was already on the cover though and it's EA Sports.

No reason for it especially if he retires.
ReDShiFT
Profile Joined March 2009
United States106 Posts
April 25 2012 15:39 GMT
#1720
On April 25 2012 23:49 StarStruck wrote:
He was already on the cover though and it's EA Sports.

No reason for it especially if he retires.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_(video_game_series)#Game_covers
According to this, he has not been on a cover of NHL by EA sports, even as a an alternate for a specific region. I still don't think EA would just put him on the cover anyways, as the fan voting is a way of generating interest in the sport and the game.
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