EPTAlso looks like I shouldn't do missions solo, at least not anything except for maybe Tora, Elreon, Vorici and Catarina.
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HolydaKing
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Also looks like I shouldn't do missions solo, at least not anything except for maybe Tora, Elreon, Vorici and Catarina. | ||
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Mura19
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Miragee
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On September 07 2014 16:18 MrTortoise wrote: hmm i tend to race to get to lvl 50. The thing is i always tend to do bosses in a party - just seems to reduce risk. However twice now i have desync in vaal pyramid and died. Am wondering how hard the bosses are to do solo? brutus is easy, but from then on i have no idea. maybe i shuodl just make a rampage char and find out tbh Vaal is pretty easy as long as you don't get one-shot by his lightning beam (so lightning res is important). Most of the times I do Vaal alone and I think it's one of the easier fights. Just don't get hit by his smash and don't get hit mutiple times by his beam. Also, if he disappears hold yourself in the middle of the room (or whereever you want him to be) because when he appears he will often times do so on top of you. | ||
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maru~
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Miragee
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On September 07 2014 18:08 maru~ wrote: What's a good budget beginner Scion build for Beyond? - Ele Spectral Throw (I know it's nerfed, it's still perfectly fine to begin with as a low budget build...) - Summoner (although you should probably level with flameblast or something like that until your minions are strong enough) | ||
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Pibacc
Canada545 Posts
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5079473 Byebye MoltenStriker, very nice build was fun. If someone is interested in it I can do a more elaborate post about it. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On September 07 2014 20:44 bluQ wrote: Well ... I guess after several month without reep it has to happen right? http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5079473 Byebye MoltenStriker, very nice build was fun. If someone is interested in it I can do a more elaborate post about it. I am interested in it  | ||
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bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
The plan was to go LightningStrike with EB and play that manabased. As it turned out BeyondLeague wasn't the league for LS, so around level 65 I switched to Moltenstrike. Since scaling is mostly the same for those two skills I didn't need to switch around much. After some testing with Gems I decided on: MoltStrk + MultiStrike + Loh + GMP + Weapon Ele Damage. My auras I was running: Grace, Herald of Ash, Herald of Ice. As my journey went on, a Thiefs Torment dropped into my hands. Some hours testing later I refined my 5Link by using ThiefsTorment for sustain and swap LoH with Added Fire Damage. The DPS increase and mana-sustain through ThiefsTorment made me decide to scrap MoM and EB and invest those points further into Damage and Life. My last iteration of the build looked like this: http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgYAsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_Ax6xs-aBJpUfQe1By71h4qZ_VUu1SIw2bWw2PeOEnaoOSMCcYqxsjBGWpzT2_JAbf8YHHkcGcFYc3JUu2HaaE5Mn8NW5Plb129TviLQMSVHbbvk3RnGX0NfPgwnhiI6KSbFvnh2qykrxs1FMS1esR8DjfVsqTRUgIuIs6Ufi3Q3QgVuv_MWkOeCVTipnoLcXn4IppYd2XPlW6Ep9ZFo4luJeqwtyw8wG7LCMC7l8PydKyG6qtfKpbmxGcmwyCTWS2L0= The plan was to skill more life in Scion wheel and to then go on and respec ES+MaxHP nodes to get to "Path of Warrior" My gear plan was to 5 or 6L my carcass and use: MoltStrk + MultiStrike + Conc Effect + GMP + Weapon Ele Damage (+AddedFire or Faster Attacks) To get to some nifty details: How to scale Molten Strike? - You scale it mostly by scaling Physical Damage and AtkSpeed. Be aware that the Projectiles from MS are NOT considered melee, therefor Melee Physical Damage support gem and corresponding passive nodes do not increase the projectile portion. What does my Tooltip DPS say about my efficient DPS? - Not much. With GMP I hovered around 11k solo DPS. Shooting 7 projectiles in a more or less random way makes it hard to calcuate a consistent DPS that would have a meaning. I can tell you tho that in the right position with the right crit-luck beyonder were melting in splitseconds. What about Ele/Phys Reflect? - I ran a Ruby flask if I felt the mob density was too high I popped it. But I never had the problem that I couldn't run ele reflect maps. And never had issues with LT. Why dagger? Is it possible with other weapons? - Sure it is. I just love to crit. Tho I could see it synergies with Claws as well. Your life sucks! - I hope yours does to! ... jkjk. It does but the massive LoH from MoltenStrike negated it for the most parts. I felt tankier than buddies with 5k+ HP and never moved an inch if someones Vaal Cyclones was about to run off ^^ Is this build optimized? - No it definatly isn't. It is my first iteration of the build and I designed it on the fly while I was playing. It has a lot of differantial potential as you can decide to go more block heavy and get Aegies Aurora to benefit from ES. Or you can try to get more auras running for further deeps (alpha's howl etc). What a the con's of this build? - Low Str pool can make gearing a pain. - You can't really kite. - Ele Resist mobs sucks ass. - FPS can drop ^_^. Example Vid's of tankiness: http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5045738 http://www.twitch.tv/bluquh/c/5045397 | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 07 2014 16:18 MrTortoise wrote: hmm i tend to race to get to lvl 50. The thing is i always tend to do bosses in a party - just seems to reduce risk. However twice now i have desync in vaal pyramid and died. Am wondering how hard the bosses are to do solo? brutus is easy, but from then on i have no idea. maybe i shuodl just make a rampage char and find out tbh You just have to learn the patterns and know when to do damage and when to avoid damage. Some of the fights mechanics are very obvious and it is easy to learn the pattern like vaal, but others have a bit more obscure mechanics like the dominus fight. On September 07 2014 16:40 HolydaKing wrote: Aaand I died again at lvl 76 (highest HC char ever so far, RoA with Chin Sol). Zana daily with Onslaught mod, went pretty easy until I went in a big room with ~30ish monsters, including Sea Witches. Even there it seemed like I would manage, but then I saw the speed totem which made the monsters (now including a normal Beyond pack) impossible fast, making me die so fast that I couldn't even react. Also looks like I shouldn't do missions solo, at least not anything except for maybe Tora, Elreon, Vorici and Catarina. Zana is really hit or miss. You have to look at the mods and decide what you can handle. It is pretty easy to logout of the Vagan fight as well if you end up in a horrible position. | ||
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Miragee
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On September 08 2014 00:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: You just have to learn the patterns and know when to do damage and when to avoid damage. Some of the fights mechanics are very obvious and it is easy to learn the pattern like vaal, but others have a bit more obscure mechanics like the dominus fight. Zana is really hit or miss. You have to look at the mods and decide what you can handle. It is pretty easy to logout of the Vagan fight as well if you end up in a horrible position. Zana trolled me so much today. First I found her on a map and she gave me a double reflect map. I just doubled my damage before that, so I barely survived small groups with a Topaz-Flask/High Regen Flask. So I crawled my way to the objective which was a Master Mission. Turned out to be Haku's and I usually avoid those... Luckily it was an easy one without time limit and I could clear the whole area beforehand. Wha is kinda ridiculous though (beginning with the name, lol). Then I attempted my daily. She gave me a sea spawn fracture map for my Arc build... That was fun. Learned two things on that map: 1. Luckily fracture spawn don't spawn beyond portals. Would have been impossible otherwise as sea spawns already come in huge packs. 2. A rare Fracture mob on a fracture map spawns double the amount (guessed) of fractures on death. | ||
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maru~
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On September 07 2014 18:42 Miragee wrote: - Ele Spectral Throw (I know it's nerfed, it's still perfectly fine to begin with as a low budget build...) - Summoner (although you should probably level with flameblast or something like that until your minions are strong enough) Ok thanks. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Just level with Searing Bond, ezpz | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
why do you want scion? | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 08 2014 05:23 wei2coolman wrote: Scion looked like a decent starting point, had some good nodes near by. Dual totem Keystone not that far away. Some of the 1.1 builds I were looking at, most seem to be scion. Scion start is awful as all the starting nodes there are worse than other class starting areas. You need to gain some additional efficiency from pathing to make up for the inferior nodes. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On September 08 2014 05:31 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Scion start is awful as all the starting nodes there are worse than other class starting areas. You need to gain some additional efficiency from pathing to make up for the inferior nodes. In regards to flame totem build, it doesn't seem any worse or better than maurader tbh. maurader start with some of the main nodes that I'm looking to hit. https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgEA9q54aUrE-OsUcacwns1VtcEEjr8bRcbYWOUGDgPGCfZj_aPyLKdaKyoTWfOsqnKp9zLqGMMT-JOMRiu2EMzGrjwtxPYn7Xsg_oc= scion start with the same main nodes i'm looking to hit. https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgAA-egYPL0nkzoIZ6PyLKdaKyoTWfOsqiftxPY8Lcautz5Bh8MT9q54aUrE-OvqGPcycqlY5Qn2A8YUcWP9Bg74k4xGK7YQzP6HeyA= the only difference just seems to be some of the starting nodes. | ||
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maru~
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On September 08 2014 07:02 wei2coolman wrote: In regards to flame totem build, it doesn't seem any worse or better than maurader tbh. maurader start with some of the main nodes that I'm looking to hit. https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgEA9q54aUrE-OsUcacwns1VtcEEjr8bRcbYWOUGDgPGCfZj_aPyLKdaKyoTWfOsqnKp9zLqGMMT-JOMRiu2EMzGrjwtxPYn7Xsg_oc= scion start with the same main nodes i'm looking to hit. https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgAA-egYPL0nkzoIZ6PyLKdaKyoTWfOsqiftxPY8Lcautz5Bh8MT9q54aUrE-OvqGPcycqlY5Qn2A8YUcWP9Bg74k4xGK7YQzP6HeyA= the only difference just seems to be some of the starting nodes. Why wouldn't you go through Warriors blood? I understand you're playing a safe build, but those are still efficient life nodes. You're saving two skill points to give up several life/regen nodes plus easy access to several more 6%s. If you don't end up going to Heart of the Warrior at some point then you're playing CI or have a terrible build. I think the Witch start is preferable though. You end up wasting a lot of nodes between the marauder start and getting to the edge. With the Witch you get to the edge by picking up fire damage and life nodes and can cycle around the tree down to Ancestral Bond picking up all the good nodes along the way (whispers of doom and the life nodes). You're going to end up at the Scion wheel so there are plenty of life nodes that you don't need to go hunting up to the Marauder start area (although you could end up there anyway if you want to get really tanky). | ||
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