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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 09 2014 21:06 GMT
#16601
On September 10 2014 06:03 Sn0_Man wrote:
How do you brick a 4% spellblock laz?


Implying I could ever get lucky enough to get a roll like that. I vaaled a lazwhar last week and bricked it. Worthless rare amulet.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 09 2014 21:08 GMT
#16602
Meh the laz is only like 1 chaos anyway. iunno.

I've seen multiple nuts rare laz/chayula "bricks" recently.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 21:12:12
September 09 2014 21:09 GMT
#16603
On September 10 2014 06:08 Sn0_Man wrote:
Meh the laz is only like 1 chaos anyway. iunno.

I've seen multiple nuts rare laz/chayula "bricks" recently.


Well last week it was 5 or 6. I will never use a vaal orb ever again just because of this ^_^
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-09 21:12:34
September 09 2014 21:12 GMT
#16604
Oh wow maybe i'm dreaming. And/or league differences.

In other news, I need to find another good item sometime soonish, otherwise I feel like I just bleed currency buying chisels and rolling maps and... finding lots and lots of alt shards :3
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
September 09 2014 21:46 GMT
#16605
I found 3 infernal mantles in one map

T_T
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3456 Posts
September 10 2014 04:07 GMT
#16606
Both our Rampage and Beyond population suffer great losses this week
O-ops
Profile Joined February 2009
United States4236 Posts
September 10 2014 04:17 GMT
#16607
On September 10 2014 13:07 vndestiny wrote:
Both our Rampage and Beyond population suffer great losses this week


Add one more to the list.

Goddamnit ;;
Fan of the Jangbanger
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8665 Posts
September 10 2014 06:59 GMT
#16608
Ripped on a Zana daily. Had a Courtyard Map, cleaned it. The last corrupted monster were in the boss room, I killed them and then decided to try the boss trio, too, since they didn't much damage to me and already lost a lot of life. Then I got insta-gibbed by something what I assume was a desynced whirl-wind guy. RIP arc witch. Next time I get the fuck out of that room after finishing the daily.
Vallelol
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany1046 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 11:21:05
September 10 2014 11:19 GMT
#16609
This is my current 2H Duelist LS Build http://poeurl.com/yZCw1XK

My 5L LS is: Multistrike, WED, Faster Attacks, Added Fire

I got a 20% LS and I feel like 60% pierce is enough so far, thats why I didn't pick up the pierce nodes in the tree
I still have all my respec points and I just skilled the tree on the fly without min-maxing that much.
Do you guys have any suggestions on where to go next (given its only very few points left)?

Should I respec any parts to be more efficient? Did I do any major mistakes in the tree?
Is Point Blank worth it with LS?

So far im pretty satisfied, I am wrecking 70-72 maps, but not 100% sure that there isn't room for improvement
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 16:04:13
September 10 2014 16:02 GMT
#16610
I'm kinda wondering if I should use LS myself (got a 14?quality one), but last time I played it I somehow didn't like it very much. Right now my Crit Dagger Shadow is using Double Strike (awesome dps!) and Spectral Throw, and I feel like Spectral Throw isn't working that well. I do kill stuff, but I feel like I'm not doing so as quickly as I should (especially given how awesome the DS dps is lol).

Tooltip DS is like 14k, while ST is just a bit above 2k. That said, it's still 4L, so maybe it would improve a bit if I got a 5L. Just had to start a Dagger char after finding a 8,4% crit chance 1,4 attack speed and 220ish dps dagger (with two 30-ish resists on top of that).
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 16:08:20
September 10 2014 16:05 GMT
#16611
It's actually super easy to craft decent daggers with the new crafting.
ilvl 77 ambushers are guaranteed over 200 pdps with either a flaring or a 100+% ipd prefix, any suffix, regal anything, and then craft ipd or flat depending on what's missing. Plus if your suffix is ias/crit or if your regal is good you have a godly dagger.
If you have the "can have multiple crafted affixes" master level 8 then its actually a joke.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 16:34:04
September 10 2014 16:30 GMT
#16612
On September 11 2014 01:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
It's actually super easy to craft decent daggers with the new crafting.
ilvl 77 ambushers are guaranteed over 200 pdps with either a flaring or a 100+% ipd prefix, any suffix, regal anything, and then craft ipd or flat depending on what's missing. Plus if your suffix is ias/crit or if your regal is good you have a godly dagger.
If you have the "can have multiple crafted affixes" master level 8 then its actually a joke.

I will never have a lvl 8 master though, especially not on Beyond. And I probably am not alone here. I would probably not even get it on Rampage, as it seems to take ridicolously long. I got 2 lvl 6 masters right now, and feel like even getting lvl 7 will be tough.

And it doesn't even seem to be really "worth" the grind (unless it's fun for you) on the 3 month leagues, since for the next ones you'll have to do it again. But I still like the masters expansion, it's by far better on Sacrifice of the Vaal or what it was called. Especially as I avoid Corrupted Zones all the time and never do Atziri, so it was basically nothing for me.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
September 10 2014 16:34 GMT
#16613
I don't disagree, but you don't need a level 8 master to do the first part that basically guarantees everybody who wants one a 200+pdps dagger.
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HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 10 2014 16:38 GMT
#16614
On September 11 2014 01:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't disagree, but you don't need a level 8 master to do the first part that basically guarantees everybody who wants one a 200+pdps dagger.

Well you may be right, but I don't think they're that cheap anyway. Last time I checked a comparable one as mine (without the Res) still costed between 1-2 ex, which is still a crap ton of currency for me on Beyond.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 16:41:18
September 10 2014 16:39 GMT
#16615
On September 11 2014 01:02 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm kinda wondering if I should use LS myself (got a 14?quality one), but last time I played it I somehow didn't like it very much. Right now my Crit Dagger Shadow is using Double Strike (awesome dps!) and Spectral Throw, and I feel like Spectral Throw isn't working that well. I do kill stuff, but I feel like I'm not doing so as quickly as I should (especially given how awesome the DS dps is lol).

Tooltip DS is like 14k, while ST is just a bit above 2k. That said, it's still 4L, so maybe it would improve a bit if I got a 5L. Just had to start a Dagger char after finding a 8,4% crit chance 1,4 attack speed and 220ish dps dagger (with two 30-ish resists on top of that).


1.4 attack speed seems incredibly slow unless you aren't playing ele ST.

On September 11 2014 01:38 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 01:34 Sn0_Man wrote:
I don't disagree, but you don't need a level 8 master to do the first part that basically guarantees everybody who wants one a 200+pdps dagger.

Well you may be right, but I don't think they're that cheap anyway. Last time I checked a comparable one as mine (without the Res) still costed between 1-2 ex, which is still a crap ton of currency for me on Beyond.


Spending a crap ton of currency on a weapon is typically a good investment though. Unless you RIP
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 16:45:05
September 10 2014 16:40 GMT
#16616
On September 11 2014 01:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 01:02 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm kinda wondering if I should use LS myself (got a 14?quality one), but last time I played it I somehow didn't like it very much. Right now my Crit Dagger Shadow is using Double Strike (awesome dps!) and Spectral Throw, and I feel like Spectral Throw isn't working that well. I do kill stuff, but I feel like I'm not doing so as quickly as I should (especially given how awesome the DS dps is lol).

Tooltip DS is like 14k, while ST is just a bit above 2k. That said, it's still 4L, so maybe it would improve a bit if I got a 5L. Just had to start a Dagger char after finding a 8,4% crit chance 1,4 attack speed and 220ish dps dagger (with two 30-ish resists on top of that).


1.4 attack speed seems incredibly slow unless you aren't playing ele ST.

Yeah, I meant pure PDPS and I'm playing physical. My build is stilll only lvl 64 and leveling in Docks, but I got most of the DPS nodes. It's basically my first mix of Evasion and Armor, I got about 50% eva (plus Ondar's) and mid 40% Armour, because my shield and Chest have high Armour and I got some shield nodes with extra defences.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 10 2014 16:49 GMT
#16617
On September 11 2014 01:40 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 01:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 11 2014 01:02 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm kinda wondering if I should use LS myself (got a 14?quality one), but last time I played it I somehow didn't like it very much. Right now my Crit Dagger Shadow is using Double Strike (awesome dps!) and Spectral Throw, and I feel like Spectral Throw isn't working that well. I do kill stuff, but I feel like I'm not doing so as quickly as I should (especially given how awesome the DS dps is lol).

Tooltip DS is like 14k, while ST is just a bit above 2k. That said, it's still 4L, so maybe it would improve a bit if I got a 5L. Just had to start a Dagger char after finding a 8,4% crit chance 1,4 attack speed and 220ish dps dagger (with two 30-ish resists on top of that).


1.4 attack speed seems incredibly slow unless you aren't playing ele ST.

Yeah, I meant pure PDPS and I'm playing physical. My build is stilll only lvl 64 and leveling in Docks, but I got most of the DPS nodes. It's basically my first mix of Evasion and Armor, I got about 50% eva (plus Ondar's) and mid 40% Armour, because my shield and Chest have high Armour and I got some shield nodes with extra defences.


You might just be too tanky. I'm having that problem right now on my ranger because I took too many life nodes and my damage hasn't kept up. Crit specifically is much better with the right investments into nodes like power charges.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 17:05:39
September 10 2014 16:55 GMT
#16618
On September 11 2014 01:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 01:40 HolydaKing wrote:
On September 11 2014 01:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 11 2014 01:02 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm kinda wondering if I should use LS myself (got a 14?quality one), but last time I played it I somehow didn't like it very much. Right now my Crit Dagger Shadow is using Double Strike (awesome dps!) and Spectral Throw, and I feel like Spectral Throw isn't working that well. I do kill stuff, but I feel like I'm not doing so as quickly as I should (especially given how awesome the DS dps is lol).

Tooltip DS is like 14k, while ST is just a bit above 2k. That said, it's still 4L, so maybe it would improve a bit if I got a 5L. Just had to start a Dagger char after finding a 8,4% crit chance 1,4 attack speed and 220ish dps dagger (with two 30-ish resists on top of that).


1.4 attack speed seems incredibly slow unless you aren't playing ele ST.

Yeah, I meant pure PDPS and I'm playing physical. My build is stilll only lvl 64 and leveling in Docks, but I got most of the DPS nodes. It's basically my first mix of Evasion and Armor, I got about 50% eva (plus Ondar's) and mid 40% Armour, because my shield and Chest have high Armour and I got some shield nodes with extra defences.


You might just be too tanky. I'm having that problem right now on my ranger because I took too many life nodes and my damage hasn't kept up. Crit specifically is much better with the right investments into nodes like power charges.

Nah, I'm not specced too tanky. My single target dps is over the top, I was just wondering if ST is still a good choice or whether I should try something else for AoE. Especially because it got nerfed while other stuff, like Lightning Strike, got buffed.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 10 2014 17:08 GMT
#16619
http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgAAAdwB5wUtFCAUUhiRG8gb-iMxJd8ppSpNMZ4yCTWSNug7KD8nQzFFlkd-SshMMk3jTipQR1ivW69eE2BLYxdlTWqTbEZuaW6qcmxyw3TteA16731bhNmE74lrpBmmV6cwqW6rC6xHtfK2Qb6KvqfAD8S4zAbSTdXt1fjYvd0N4oDrLOx09Ub7_PzF_o8=

Is this a viable build for farming maps in softcore without constant dying? I am currently farming Merciless Sarn for an upgrade to Terminus Est to carry me to maps (necessary/worthwhile?). I'm playing with Spectral Throw and Double Strike.

Any advice would be appreciated, I stopped playing a while ago and am trying to get back into the game.
Writer@WriterYamato
bluQ
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Germany1724 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-10 18:02:33
September 10 2014 17:58 GMT
#16620
On September 11 2014 01:55 HolydaKing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2014 01:49 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 11 2014 01:40 HolydaKing wrote:
On September 11 2014 01:39 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On September 11 2014 01:02 HolydaKing wrote:
I'm kinda wondering if I should use LS myself (got a 14?quality one), but last time I played it I somehow didn't like it very much. Right now my Crit Dagger Shadow is using Double Strike (awesome dps!) and Spectral Throw, and I feel like Spectral Throw isn't working that well. I do kill stuff, but I feel like I'm not doing so as quickly as I should (especially given how awesome the DS dps is lol).

Tooltip DS is like 14k, while ST is just a bit above 2k. That said, it's still 4L, so maybe it would improve a bit if I got a 5L. Just had to start a Dagger char after finding a 8,4% crit chance 1,4 attack speed and 220ish dps dagger (with two 30-ish resists on top of that).


1.4 attack speed seems incredibly slow unless you aren't playing ele ST.

Yeah, I meant pure PDPS and I'm playing physical. My build is stilll only lvl 64 and leveling in Docks, but I got most of the DPS nodes. It's basically my first mix of Evasion and Armor, I got about 50% eva (plus Ondar's) and mid 40% Armour, because my shield and Chest have high Armour and I got some shield nodes with extra defences.


You might just be too tanky. I'm having that problem right now on my ranger because I took too many life nodes and my damage hasn't kept up. Crit specifically is much better with the right investments into nodes like power charges.

Nah, I'm not specced too tanky. My single target dps is over the top, I was just wondering if ST is still a good choice or whether I should try something else for AoE. Especially because it got nerfed while other stuff, like Lightning Strike, got buffed.

Well first off, you can't compare ST tooltip DPS to DS tooltip DPS, or its not a really good indicator of how well ur ST is doing. The one big factor ST has to its benefit if you crit ur projectiles will crit multiple time due to the nature of crit calculation per skill use and the Loh from ST is one of the best in game.

To go something like pure Double/DualStrike I would still try to get my hands on BoR to get the survivablity from perm-blind.

If you want some real comparison go to some map boss like grotto. Prepare ur links so its comparable (ST-GMP -> ur DS should be linked to at least MeleeSplash) and try to compare by watching his life-bar and stopping time.

If u are sick of ST or something, maybe try Molten Strike ^_^
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