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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-09 17:17:23
December 09 2013 17:16 GMT
#841
I actually played FF6 without a strategy guide and ended up leveling pretty damn high just from wandering around not knowing where I was supposed to be. I think I stopped shortly after I first got Espers and I was a little over 12 hours in. Had no idea how they worked or who to equip with what, so just went for it.

OH, I remember, I quit after failing the opera scene time limit 3 times, the last time being when the clock ran out at the exact time I engaged the boss and I still lost.

Anyway, I had 8 for PC circa 2002. Bought it at Sam's Club of all places.
Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-10 01:30:08
December 09 2013 23:54 GMT
#842
Playing FF8. Game just crashed and for some fucking reason my most recent save is gone. But the one before that is still there. WTF.

It's like the game doesn't actually get saved unless you return to the main menu or quit the game.

Edit:

The game crashes on disc 2 when you return to Balamb Garden to find Cid. When you head for the dormitory you encounter a Caterchipillar that can't be avoided. It seems if you attack it with Squall, the game freezes.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
December 11 2013 02:16 GMT
#843
On December 10 2013 02:16 deth2munkies wrote:
OH, I remember, I quit after failing the opera scene time limit 3 times, the last time being when the clock ran out at the exact time I engaged the boss and I still lost.

A shame you quit there, as the part between Terra transforming and the opera house is easily the worst part of the game. It's really only uphill from there.

Well, maybe excluding the early World of Ruin where you might end up doing a lot of walking.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 03:00:21
December 11 2013 03:00 GMT
#844
On December 09 2013 13:54 Sufficiency wrote:
Let me explain about what I feel about FF6 compared to FF8.

I feel that for FF8, you can just "play" the game without anyone's help (no asking for advices, no strategy guides), and your character will progress naturally. While I understand the leveling part is very counter-intuitive, unless you intentionally grind your levels you won't come to a point that it becomes extremely detrimental to your gameplay - all you need to do is to Junction correctly and you are good to go. The character progression in FF8 relies on Junction, and it's fairly intuitive once you get over the leveling thing. By the way, IIRC leveling up makes you able to Draw better magics.

The issue I have with FF6 is that, first of all, your character progression is very murky and hard to control. You get a huge chunk of your stats from equipping Espers while leveling up, but you don't get all Espers at the beginning of the game and some are better than others. This, in my opinion, is similar to FF8's leveling system that you get punished for leveling. Beyond this, however, FF6 also has the problem that you can't really tell if your character needs Strength or Magic - this problem is particularly annoying for Sabin whose moves scale with Magic. And finally, FF6's final dungeon is quite difficult, requiring a split party and quite a bit of investment to develop all your characters (correctly).

Don't get me wrong, FF6 is a great game, but I find it so annoying and frustrating to play that I will never play it twice. This is just a symptom of the older games - making games frustratingly difficult as a way to increase replayability. I think if FF6 is remade, its leveling system need to be completely revamped to modern standard.

On the other hand, I feel FF5 (and 2/3, which IIRC has the same system) actually has the best character progression. You are offered a lot of choices on which Job to pursue, but there is no way to ruin your character because your stats growth is not linked to your Job when you level up.


i found ff6 hard, but that made it more satisfying to build my sexy girls and locke into beasts (well, after getting the offering and dinosaur island lol). knowing that shit was once really hard but now terra and celes are making 7k sword hits is so sexy mmmm
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
December 11 2013 04:50 GMT
#845
On December 11 2013 11:16 Ljas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2013 02:16 deth2munkies wrote:
OH, I remember, I quit after failing the opera scene time limit 3 times, the last time being when the clock ran out at the exact time I engaged the boss and I still lost.

A shame you quit there, as the part between Terra transforming and the opera house is easily the worst part of the game. It's really only uphill from there.

Well, maybe excluding the early World of Ruin where you might end up doing a lot of walking.


I remember spending well over an hour (without getting lost) of random battles just to get to Terra and get my first espers. The random battles aren't hard, there's just a metric fuckload of them in that little rainy town.
Ljas
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland725 Posts
December 11 2013 11:29 GMT
#846
FFVI was easily the worst offender on random encounters. It didn't help that the Slamdancers in Zozo could oneshot your party members.
That was the frustrating side of the game, but the rest of it is so beautifully executed that the ending theme still brings a tear to my eye.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 13 2013 09:06 GMT
#847
square is offering a £5 secret gift "worth £50" in their store :/
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2013 04:16 GMT
#848
Can you guys imagine a Final Fantasy game with Dragon Age kind of mechanics in it? That is, instead of having all your playable characters "enslaved" to you and obey your words without question, you can make moral choices in the game and it will make other playable characters like/dislike you. Depending how much the character likes you s/he can gain bonuses (or leave you?)

For example, you can choose if you want to save the Al Bheds in that siege or not; doing so will make Rikku like you more and Wakka like you less.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 04:17:59
December 16 2013 04:17 GMT
#849
On December 11 2013 20:29 Ljas wrote:
FFVI was easily the worst offender on random encounters. It didn't help that the Slamdancers in Zozo could oneshot your party members.
That was the frustrating side of the game, but the rest of it is so beautifully executed that the ending theme still brings a tear to my eye.


Or anything with Lvl ? XXX skills, really. Those things are the absolute worst. I wonder which retard's idea was it to add those things into the game.

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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
December 16 2013 19:44 GMT
#850
On December 16 2013 13:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Can you guys imagine a Final Fantasy game with Dragon Age kind of mechanics in it? That is, instead of having all your playable characters "enslaved" to you and obey your words without question, you can make moral choices in the game and it will make other playable characters like/dislike you. Depending how much the character likes you s/he can gain bonuses (or leave you?)

For example, you can choose if you want to save the Al Bheds in that siege or not; doing so will make Rikku like you more and Wakka like you less.

Why not just play Dragon Age, then? JRPGs are inheirently more scripted and linear than RPGs like that. It wouldn't be Final Fantasy if it wasn't a JRPG.
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Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 16 2013 19:54 GMT
#851
On December 16 2013 13:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Can you guys imagine a Final Fantasy game with Dragon Age kind of mechanics in it? That is, instead of having all your playable characters "enslaved" to you and obey your words without question, you can make moral choices in the game and it will make other playable characters like/dislike you. Depending how much the character likes you s/he can gain bonuses (or leave you?)

For example, you can choose if you want to save the Al Bheds in that siege or not; doing so will make Rikku like you more and Wakka like you less.


Those mechanics never were that great to be honest.

Now, imagine this. A Final Fantasy game with good characters that aren't simple caricatures. That'd be fucking amazing.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 16 2013 21:08 GMT
#852
On December 17 2013 04:54 Animzor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2013 13:16 Sufficiency wrote:
Can you guys imagine a Final Fantasy game with Dragon Age kind of mechanics in it? That is, instead of having all your playable characters "enslaved" to you and obey your words without question, you can make moral choices in the game and it will make other playable characters like/dislike you. Depending how much the character likes you s/he can gain bonuses (or leave you?)

For example, you can choose if you want to save the Al Bheds in that siege or not; doing so will make Rikku like you more and Wakka like you less.


Those mechanics never were that great to be honest.

Now, imagine this. A Final Fantasy game with good characters that aren't simple caricatures. That'd be fucking amazing.


Meh. All I want is Rydia clones! Who cares about variety?!
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 18 2013 00:53 GMT
#853
Has anyone tried playing Dissidia on a keyboard? Is it even remotely possible? >__<
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TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
December 20 2013 22:12 GMT
#854
Square Enix is holding a holiday sale for all of their IOS and Android games. Their mobile apps are usually leaning toward the expensive side, but all the Final Fantasy games are half off at the moment!

Here's a small breakdown

$9:
TWEWY

$8:
FF3
FF4
FF5
FF Dimensions

$7:
FF Tactics

$4:
FF1
FF2
Chaos Rings 2
Secret of Mana

$3:
Chaos Rings

$1:
Deus Ex: The Fall

Free:
Bloodmasque
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Animzor
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden2154 Posts
December 20 2013 22:34 GMT
#855
If only they would release it all on steam
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 21 2013 00:27 GMT
#856
Wtf ff tactics is on mobile?!?!?!?!

But not on Android? Can't find it on Android...
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TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
December 24 2013 18:14 GMT
#857
On December 21 2013 09:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Wtf ff tactics is on mobile?!?!?!?!

But not on Android? Can't find it on Android...

Seems like there's only a Japanese port of FFT on Android, and the English port is "coming soon".

The iOS version is amazing though!
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 25 2013 05:36 GMT
#858
On December 25 2013 03:14 TheMute wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2013 09:27 Sufficiency wrote:
Wtf ff tactics is on mobile?!?!?!?!

But not on Android? Can't find it on Android...

Seems like there's only a Japanese port of FFT on Android, and the English port is "coming soon".

The iOS version is amazing though!


Welp >__<

No sale price for me I guess. I'll still consider getting it though... after I finish playing Dimensions.
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Fuchsteufelswild
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2028 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 06:12:27
December 25 2013 06:07 GMT
#859
Started playing FF3 on the DS recently.
Unfortunately, I thought I was adhering to logic when, after having to turn into miniature versions to go through a tunnel, I stayed "Mini" for the duration of that entire quest through those tunnels, because surely coming out of Mini would mean you were huge compared to the size of the tunnel, right?
Managing with just magic when I hadn't previously managed to buy extra spells for the characters that weren't already mages wasn't easy, because it meant there was little point turning my fighter into a black or red mage, seeing as hee'd have no spells.
I didn't want to back-track to get the spells and in fact at that point I don't believe you can; you have to get a little further in the plot to get a ship and then you can head back to earlier areas.

Turns out I later came to an area where we all had to turn into frogs to get through a drain pipe...but no worries about turning back into humans after you've gone through it.
I guess that first tunnel was actually much larger than I thought and it was just a tiny passageway. >_<

There I was thinking the game was (nicely) harder than they normally were...

So far though, I'm enjoying it.
It's halfway between 1 & 5, with a lot of jobs like in 5 but the classes are much simpler than in 5, though still have a little more to them than the jobs in FF1.

I really love 2&5, but FF7 is still the best in my opinion (having played 1-2, 4-10 and some of 3), so unfortunately I can't give them my vote for "favourite" to help balance things out .

I really don't understand why 6 is not only sooo popular (I still like a lot though, unlike FF4) but more importantly, why anyone found it especially hard.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 28 2013 00:14 GMT
#860
About 3, there is an abuse in the early game that makes things easier...

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Get lots of staves, cast free spells.
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