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Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 07 2011 09:50 GMT
#81


Play Ibuki if you don't like the Twins ;D

Gonna go to bed, willw atch a ton of streams tomorrow for sure.
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Kingkosi
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States1215 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 09:55:33
June 07 2011 09:51 GMT
#82
Ha i know right! Saying it's ready to purchase and it's not

Edit: this was a response to demon by the way.
Twitter: @KingKosi
Bandreus
Profile Joined April 2010
Italy69 Posts
June 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#83
I'm so excited about AE! Well, I still believe 3s is the best SF ever. Can't wait to play some Ibuki again xD
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
June 07 2011 09:53 GMT
#84
just dl'd it
[iHs]SSP | I-NO-KI BOM-BA-YE | のヮの http://tinyurl.com/MLIStheCV , MLIS.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
June 07 2011 10:28 GMT
#85
On June 07 2011 04:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 04:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
anyway my main got buffed, so i'm happy. sakura's got new links so it's lab day whenever i can get my hands on a stick (mine is broken T_T)

as far as tier lists go, Yun is definitely #1, followed by Yang and Fei

after them is new Ken, then maybe Makoto, but Cammy, Abel, Chun, Gief, Viper, and Sagat are A tier... probably a couple others


Probably from pounding it after losing!

Dunno how I'm gonna adjust to EX green hand change, it's gonna be weird. Also what worthwhile links are there for Sak? I can't imagine cancelable fs.mp will be worth all that much? Seems like the best thing she's getting is faster fireball recovery.

EX green hand is a gief change right?
I read in the thread it doesnt knock down anymore, so that means you can go ex green fist -> ultra/super right?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
exalted
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
United States3612 Posts
June 07 2011 11:41 GMT
#86
It's here! Having so much fun playing ranked match with Yun. Too lazy to hit up training mode right now, just going to enjoy myself!
too easy
Fryght
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands254 Posts
June 07 2011 12:19 GMT
#87
Hopefully PSN will update today, still
MadPretty
Profile Joined October 2010
United States101 Posts
June 07 2011 12:50 GMT
#88
On June 07 2011 19:28 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 04:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On June 07 2011 04:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
anyway my main got buffed, so i'm happy. sakura's got new links so it's lab day whenever i can get my hands on a stick (mine is broken T_T)

as far as tier lists go, Yun is definitely #1, followed by Yang and Fei

after them is new Ken, then maybe Makoto, but Cammy, Abel, Chun, Gief, Viper, and Sagat are A tier... probably a couple others


Probably from pounding it after losing!

Dunno how I'm gonna adjust to EX green hand change, it's gonna be weird. Also what worthwhile links are there for Sak? I can't imagine cancelable fs.mp will be worth all that much? Seems like the best thing she's getting is faster fireball recovery.

EX green hand is a gief change right?
I read in the thread it doesnt knock down anymore, so that means you can go ex green fist -> ultra/super right?


You could, but it would just be like regular green hand: a gamble. With the fact that U2 has been buffed to hell and back, people may be too scared to jump though. It does creates a better guessing game.
Tyree
Profile Joined November 2010
1508 Posts
June 07 2011 12:51 GMT
#89
Thunder for this was stolen a bit when they said Third Strike Online will come out this summer

I still cant wait to get AE, PSN needs to update!
★ Top Gun ★
MilesTeg
Profile Joined September 2010
France1271 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 15:04:12
June 07 2011 13:18 GMT
#90
I don't get what's so good about Yun. It's going to be like Rufus, even if you hit with the dive kick you barely get any frame advantage at all so all you have to do is mash a jab or a shoryuken-type move to get out. It's still going to be hard as hell to beat a defender with an offensive character. At best it's going to be the same gamble between shoruyken, guard and throw, which is what I hate about this game to begin with. Or maybe I just don't understand Street Fighter.

goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 13:34:00
June 07 2011 13:33 GMT
#91
On June 07 2011 22:18 MilesTeg wrote:
I don't get what's so good about Yun. It's going to like Rufus, even if you hit with the dive kick you barely get any frame advantage at all so all you have to do is mash a jab or a shoryuken-type move to get out. It's still going to be hard as hell to beat a defender with an offensive character. At best it's going to be the same gamble between shoruyken, guard and throw, which is what I hate about this game to begin with. Or maybe I just don't understand Street Fighter.



It's mostly that damn palm. It's hard to punish. It's not like yun will be the end all of characters, but he's going to be frustrating to learn to counter.

And yeah, you do need to learn a little more about street fighter
red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
June 07 2011 13:43 GMT
#92
I'll grab this later today when it goes up on psn.. If anyone west coast wants to play pm me and ill give you my psn user id.
Broom
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 07 2011 16:35 GMT
#93
On June 07 2011 21:50 MadPretty wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 19:28 arb wrote:
On June 07 2011 04:09 Excalibur_Z wrote:
On June 07 2011 04:02 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
anyway my main got buffed, so i'm happy. sakura's got new links so it's lab day whenever i can get my hands on a stick (mine is broken T_T)

as far as tier lists go, Yun is definitely #1, followed by Yang and Fei

after them is new Ken, then maybe Makoto, but Cammy, Abel, Chun, Gief, Viper, and Sagat are A tier... probably a couple others


Probably from pounding it after losing!

Dunno how I'm gonna adjust to EX green hand change, it's gonna be weird. Also what worthwhile links are there for Sak? I can't imagine cancelable fs.mp will be worth all that much? Seems like the best thing she's getting is faster fireball recovery.

EX green hand is a gief change right?
I read in the thread it doesnt knock down anymore, so that means you can go ex green fist -> ultra/super right?


You could, but it would just be like regular green hand: a gamble. With the fact that U2 has been buffed to hell and back, people may be too scared to jump though. It does creates a better guessing game.

A lot of people will stick with U1 since it's easier to land and does way more damage

Ex green glove gives +1 frame advantage on hit, so don't expect safe combos, but instead more of mixup followup of lariat or spd
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
June 07 2011 16:55 GMT
#94
AE is a huge disappointment to me. Yang and Yun (meh) plus more shoto lameness (mehhhh). Balance changes are the most exciting part. Why no Rolento? Hugo? Elena? A character with a unique playing style? Nope, let's throw in a couple rush down characters and add two palate swap shotos.

Disappointed. No Evo for me this year.
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
June 07 2011 17:09 GMT
#95
PSN users have to wait for tomorrow morning, which will be Wednesday 6am (estimate) PST.

hotbreakfest
Profile Joined May 2011
United States145 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-07 17:55:56
June 07 2011 17:54 GMT
#96
On June 08 2011 01:55 IPA wrote:
AE is a huge disappointment to me. Yang and Yun (meh) plus more shoto lameness (mehhhh). Balance changes are the most exciting part. Why no Rolento? Hugo? Elena? A character with a unique playing style? Nope, let's throw in a couple rush down characters and add two palate swap shotos.

Disappointed. No Evo for me this year.

Wait, what? I haven't gotten the game yet, but Elena is basically a crappy Chun Li clone in terms of playstyle and Hugo plays exactly like Zangief. However, I was disappointed with no Rolento.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 07 2011 18:04 GMT
#97
On June 07 2011 22:33 goiflin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 22:18 MilesTeg wrote:
I don't get what's so good about Yun. It's going to like Rufus, even if you hit with the dive kick you barely get any frame advantage at all so all you have to do is mash a jab or a shoryuken-type move to get out. It's still going to be hard as hell to beat a defender with an offensive character. At best it's going to be the same gamble between shoruyken, guard and throw, which is what I hate about this game to begin with. Or maybe I just don't understand Street Fighter.



It's mostly that damn palm. It's hard to punish. It's not like yun will be the end all of characters, but he's going to be frustrating to learn to counter.

And yeah, you do need to learn a little more about street fighter


The funny thing about Palms is that its just a fireball with point blank range...yet people think its unpunishable? Same properties as hadouken, you can bust through it fairly easily. The difference between palms and a hadouken is that you don't need to focus it, counter fireball, or jump over it, just punish striaght through it.
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red.venom
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4651 Posts
June 07 2011 19:13 GMT
#98
On June 08 2011 01:55 IPA wrote:
Disappointed. No Evo for me this year.


Why would that stop you from going to EVO lol? Playing is hardly the reason to go.

On June 08 2011 03:04 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2011 22:33 goiflin wrote:
On June 07 2011 22:18 MilesTeg wrote:
I don't get what's so good about Yun. It's going to like Rufus, even if you hit with the dive kick you barely get any frame advantage at all so all you have to do is mash a jab or a shoryuken-type move to get out. It's still going to be hard as hell to beat a defender with an offensive character. At best it's going to be the same gamble between shoruyken, guard and throw, which is what I hate about this game to begin with. Or maybe I just don't understand Street Fighter.



It's mostly that damn palm. It's hard to punish. It's not like yun will be the end all of characters, but he's going to be frustrating to learn to counter.

And yeah, you do need to learn a little more about street fighter


The funny thing about Palms is that its just a fireball with point blank range...yet people think its unpunishable? Same properties as hadouken, you can bust through it fairly easily. The difference between palms and a hadouken is that you don't need to focus it, counter fireball, or jump over it, just punish striaght through it.


I could be wrong because the times I went to play the game here in LA I never got to play a Yun so im only judging from what other players I know say but the hitbox on the palm is insane and its not really punishable on block as well. you might think jumping at yun to punish this would be the easy solution but he has one of the best DP type antiairs in the game and letting him get a knockdown on you is also horrible haha.
Broom
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 07 2011 19:17 GMT
#99
Palms have a long recovery, punishes off the top of my head I'm thinking of are ex fireballs or ex-rekka style move which has fireball qualities and can just punch right through it.
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Wasteland
Profile Joined March 2010
United States22 Posts
June 07 2011 19:28 GMT
#100
Palm has a long startup and recovery, so it's pretty punishable from that perspective, and anything that beats projectiles can beat palm. Ex chickenwing comes to mind to go through it, and it's safe on block (I think) for jab palm. I mean, it's definitely good, but there are other reasons why Yun is so good.
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