Meh... I think most of you guys are being drama queens. Everybody can block the twins, but not everyone can keep up with Vanilla Sagat's zoning. Considering that grappling characters have good matchups vs. the twins, I don't think that tournament play will devolve into Yun vs. Yun. In ST, O. Sagat definitely has an advantage vs. a lot of the cast, but he can be countered. I'm disappointed that Ono decided to nerf zoning, as Justin Wong said "You can't out-sentinel, a better sentinel". In other words, Guile vs Guile is more competitive than Yun vs Yun.

holdthephone

United States523 Posts

June 07 2011 05:10 GMT

#62

Sako held his own with Ibuki there pretty well, isn't she bottom tier in Japan right now?

Lemonayd

United States745 Posts

June 07 2011 05:55 GMT

#63

I've never been a big fighting game player except smash melee, but I'm definitely buying this for pc when it comes out. I'll take another swing at fighting games

Gorguts

Canada254 Posts

June 07 2011 06:15 GMT

#64

I'll be playing Yun.

Might as well hop on the bandwagon, better than being a complainer anyways.

Arhkangel

Argentina769 Posts

June 07 2011 06:30 GMT

#65

Haven't touched AE yet but my god I'm excited for this. I main Vega and I think I'm going to have a blast with the twins. From the videos I see all they have is pressure but their actual zoning game is crap, hence they have a hard time with grapplers and Balrog shutting them down with jabs. On the other hand not exited at all about playing buffed Ken but I'm so so so happy Ryu got hit hard with the nerf stick.

I was so sad to hear how OP people think the twins are. I loved playing Yang in 3S but it looks like he went from punishment centered character to a rushdown beast and that is not my style.

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

June 07 2011 07:13 GMT

#66

Alright guys, it is past 12 am PST. the wait begins.

Zlasher

United States9129 Posts

June 07 2011 07:21 GMT

#67

Seriously...I'm impatient

broz0rs

United States2294 Posts

June 07 2011 07:24 GMT

#68

not up on PSN at 12am PST. oh well

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

June 07 2011 07:56 GMT

#69

I'm expecting a 2-3AM PST. So right around the time GSL and SPL start.

Jimmy Raynor

902 Posts

June 07 2011 08:05 GMT

#70

Hey, with the release of arcade edition for PC, I am thinking to get into the game, and I got a question for the veterans. How did you choose your main character. As I am reading most of the posts seem really complicated, and it looks like to fully explore a character you have to play a lot. Just by looking at the character list I think I like the most Ibuki. Is that character any fun, how hard is it to learn all the moves etc?

Crazyseal

United Kingdom259 Posts

June 07 2011 08:06 GMT

#71

Is anyone getting the game for PC?

ain

Germany786 Posts

June 07 2011 08:12 GMT

#72

On June 07 2011 17:06 Crazyseal wrote:
Is anyone getting the game for PC?

Already preordered. Consoles are for scrubs!

Jitensha

Sweden68 Posts

June 07 2011 08:21 GMT

#73

Are there any balance changes at all from AE to .. "home" AE?

I remember the new cast being really difficult to deal with as Sim. Dem dive kicks XD

Demoninja

United States1190 Posts

June 07 2011 08:30 GMT

#74

On June 07 2011 17:05 Jimmy Raynor wrote:
Hey, with the release of arcade edition for PC, I am thinking to get into the game, and I got a question for the veterans. How did you choose your main character. As I am reading most of the posts seem really complicated, and it looks like to fully explore a character you have to play a lot. Just by looking at the character list I think I like the most Ibuki. Is that character any fun, how hard is it to learn all the moves etc?

Choosing your main character is really simple. Just pick a character you like and then start playing with them. Watch some Japanese players play that character so you can get a feel for how they're supposed to be used then go at it.

Ibuki is an incredibly fun character for me but she is really really difficult to play. A lot of her more advanced stuff is specific to the character and she's not a very good character. However if you like her then by all means go for it. No harm in playing a character you think is cool even if it may be difficult to get off your feet.

On June 07 2011 17:21 Jitensha wrote:
Are there any balance changes at all from AE to .. "home" AE?

I remember the new cast being really difficult to deal with as Sim. Dem dive kicks XD

Nope, there aren't any changes. It's just a straight port of the arcade version.

Wasteland

United States22 Posts

June 07 2011 08:45 GMT

#75

Ibuki has some rather advanced stuff you need to know to utilize her fully; she is, however, not a bad character, but the usual advice is pick someone with higher life/stun. Vortex characters such as Akuma/Ibuki are execution heavy, and rely on, like I said, rather advanced stuff.

A lot of people recommend Ryu to learn the game because he has all of the tools you need to learn the game: fireball, DP, some solid links, good normals, etc. By that same token, some people swear by Balrog to be a good learning character for similar reasons, although he is a charge character.

It's absolutely up to you, but certain characters are simply not good without the application of their tools properly. When you start out you cannot know how to use the options without practice. For example, Akuma without maximizing his oki setups, and option-selects is a low stamina, low stun liability even if he is (was?) the, "best," shoto. (tier list joke here)

exalted

United States3612 Posts

June 07 2011 08:49 GMT

#76

Yeah this is total BS. Just came back to the house and was hoping that AE would finally be up. Oh well, should be soon enough.

@JimmyRaynor, yeah, just pick a character you like / identify with. It's kind of like Starcraft, eventually you start dabbling in the other races (which is crucial in order to know their mindset / range of moves, etc.). I started with Ryu, then moved to Akuma. Now I'm switching to Yun, which definitely requires a mindset switch. I would recommend starting with a grappler though (cough, Zangief), I think they're very powerful at the low-medium skill levels and are still viable at the highest levels of play.