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FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
June 08 2011 02:23 GMT
#121
lolol i'm top 20 in bp for sakura right now, #1 canadian

will have to check tomorrow when i fall hundreds of spots
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 08 2011 02:28 GMT
#122
On June 08 2011 11:15 Zlasher wrote:
People can bitch all they want about Yun, but when they switch to him they'll STILL get bodied.


THIS. Body them all night long
IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Downside
Profile Joined February 2011
173 Posts
June 08 2011 02:31 GMT
#123
Viper has been pretty much the same character since Vanilla. In Super she lost a little damage on Ultra 1 and lost some frame advantage on ground burning kicks, but considering the overall damage nerfs to most of the cast from Vanilla to Super she really pretty much stayed exactly the same in that transition. From Super to AE the only thing that I've heard from a credible source is that her U2 hitbox got buffed, but her U2 is really just a lesser noob friendly version of her U1. There literally isn't a matchup where her U2 is a better choice, her U1 is easily one of the best in the game. Most people would say she's improved in each version via staying the same. Matchups she's traditionally had problems with were Honda/Rog/Bison/Rose/Blanka/Gief, and then some other characters to lesser extents. However most of those characters got nerfed, so that's only positive news for her. If you are a Viper player you are playing the same character you been playing since the start.
nexitustl1
Profile Joined December 2010
156 Posts
June 08 2011 02:44 GMT
#124
On June 08 2011 11:31 Downside wrote:
Viper has been pretty much the same character since Vanilla. In Super she lost a little damage on Ultra 1 and lost some frame advantage on ground burning kicks, but considering the overall damage nerfs to most of the cast from Vanilla to Super she really pretty much stayed exactly the same in that transition. From Super to AE the only thing that I've heard from a credible source is that her U2 hitbox got buffed, but her U2 is really just a lesser noob friendly version of her U1. There literally isn't a matchup where her U2 is a better choice, her U1 is easily one of the best in the game. Most people would say she's improved in each version via staying the same. Matchups she's traditionally had problems with were Honda/Rog/Bison/Rose/Blanka/Gief, and then some other characters to lesser extents. However most of those characters got nerfed, so that's only positive news for her. If you are a Viper player you are playing the same character you been playing since the start.


Thats great to hear that kind of stuff i play a lot of sf4 and ssf4 and not to long ago iv started playing viper. I literally only like playing her now but i know people get frustrated with me so i pick other guys. i don't know about all the frames and details of how moves work but just what works and what doesn't so its nice to hear the details that she is still solid.

Im pretty excited for AE just for the fact i get to learn new matchups for her especially this yun character i keep hearing about and seeing. Plus learning some the new stuff on and off just means so much more play time and value out of my fight stick.
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
June 08 2011 03:41 GMT
#125
On June 08 2011 11:28 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 11:15 Zlasher wrote:
People can bitch all they want about Yun, but when they switch to him they'll STILL get bodied.


THIS. Body them all night long

Glad someones agreeing. I'm tired of the bitching. If you can't beat that person's main character other than a twin, then stop bitching and level up your game.
Follow me: www.twitter.com/zlasher
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
June 08 2011 04:07 GMT
#126
Skithiryx
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia648 Posts
June 08 2011 04:21 GMT
#127
Is their any sites or such that has a sort of semi-noob guide to character combos and all that sort of stuff?

At the moment i just try and chain things but it never works out so well for me >.<
No.Doubt
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada202 Posts
June 08 2011 04:22 GMT
#128
On June 08 2011 09:27 Zlasher wrote:
You can only ultra if you hit it from close range, and if its blocked its extremely punishable. My point with the palms is that people are bitching about it being safe as a move but it is a fireball in the end with every properly of a fireball except zoning, and hsould be punished as a fireball not as any other move.

Gief rapes twins yeah, Vance will probably be america's best chance at evo lol.

And in the end you just have to respect the ex lunge when he has meter, because if its blocked you can start up any of your BnB's on him.


Ex dash from Yun is actually +1 on block which makes it such a good tool to throw out and its really hard to punish from a jump back and it breaks focus. The only real way to deal with is to buffer your uppercut/ultra from 3/4 screen and another good way to know how to punish it is that it goes about 90% of the screen so if you are full screen it will just miss, its all in the spacing
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
June 08 2011 04:23 GMT
#129
its SUPER Street Fighter 4 Arcade Edition
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
June 08 2011 05:23 GMT
#130
On June 08 2011 13:21 Skithiryx wrote:
Is their any sites or such that has a sort of semi-noob guide to character combos and all that sort of stuff?

At the moment i just try and chain things but it never works out so well for me >.<


Your best bet is looking on youtube or heading over to shoryuken.com and finding the sub-forum for your character.

It's one of the most horribly organized forums though =[. No one knows how to update an OP.
Trumpet
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1936 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 08:49:16
June 08 2011 08:46 GMT
#131
On June 08 2011 14:23 holdthephone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 13:21 Skithiryx wrote:
Is their any sites or such that has a sort of semi-noob guide to character combos and all that sort of stuff?

At the moment i just try and chain things but it never works out so well for me >.<


Your best bet is looking on youtube or heading over to shoryuken.com and finding the sub-forum for your character.

It's one of the most horribly organized forums though =[. No one knows how to update an OP.


eh
http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV_AE

the character forums are a little random, but there's good info buried in em for those who look.

Some of the character nerfs are almost sad. abel's u2 is hilariously worse and incredibly easy to punish, and I definitely felt like my controller had disconnected after I did rog's headbutt for the first time =/

edit: so apparently that part of the wiki hasn't been fully updated for the returning members of the cast, so if theres no combos etc on there check http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Super_Street_Fighter_IV
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
June 08 2011 08:53 GMT
#132
On June 08 2011 09:43 Skithiryx wrote:
Having only played the first part of SFIV when it came out for a little i'm not too up with the tiers of characters, was looking at getting into AE and maining Viper/Sakura are they passable or have I already lost at character select?



Viper has the hardest execution in the game, she makes me want to kill myself sometimes because I almost always drop combos with her. Picking a simpler character like Boxer/Dictator is what I recommend to newer players.
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 08 2011 18:14 GMT
#133
On June 08 2011 17:53 Kaal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 09:43 Skithiryx wrote:
Having only played the first part of SFIV when it came out for a little i'm not too up with the tiers of characters, was looking at getting into AE and maining Viper/Sakura are they passable or have I already lost at character select?



Viper has the hardest execution in the game, she makes me want to kill myself sometimes because I almost always drop combos with her. Picking a simpler character like Boxer/Dictator is what I recommend to newer players.

I don't think boxer is an easy character to link (i.e. hard to link uppercut->c.lp->c.lk->headbutt) as a beginner. Actually, most charge characters have that sort of an issue.

I'd recommend playing as any shoto (ryu/ken/sagat/etc.). The controls are a bit easier to learn.
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
June 08 2011 18:20 GMT
#134
Can't wait for this to drop for PC. Don't own a 360 so I hope PC will really active as well.

Also FakeSteve #1
FADC
broz0rs
Profile Joined July 2008
United States2294 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-08 18:43:23
June 08 2011 18:38 GMT
#135
Tried out Yun mostly in training mode.

Very fun character, but probably requires a decent amount of execution. Perhaps, a slight less difficult in execution than Sakura. His BnB reminds me of Ryu's cr. MP x2, cr. RH. Basically, you need to plink pretty decently to get it down. But I think he can be played without his BnB. His custom combo (MP, HP, b HP) to turn on Genei Jin is just button mash easy. lol
myrmidon2537
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Philippines2188 Posts
June 08 2011 18:40 GMT
#136
On June 08 2011 12:41 Zlasher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 11:28 myrmidon2537 wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:15 Zlasher wrote:
People can bitch all they want about Yun, but when they switch to him they'll STILL get bodied.


THIS. Body them all night long

Glad someones agreeing. I'm tired of the bitching. If you can't beat that person's main character other than a twin, then stop bitching and level up your game.


Hard not to agree. I main Marvel-2 (and now slowly switching to Marvel 3, played it a grand total of 4 times including tournaments. Marvel-3 is easy to get into relatively lol)

Back in the day, people body you with top-tiers, someone cries about it and runs to the top-tier, they still get bodied. even better if you switch to low-tiers and still body them. Level.Up.Your.Game.

Basically: Pick a character you enjoy playing as, whether it be by character design, tier, or character playstyle then just simply level up your game.

IPT.PromilKid: I'm only good at Marvel
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
June 08 2011 18:53 GMT
#137
Lol Sanford...take what he says with a giant mountain of salt...this is the same guy who said he only plays well when plays against good players...after he gets bodied.
Get it by your hands...
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
June 08 2011 19:01 GMT
#138
Mago: 1.3k BP, 2.6k PP. Looks like he is doing fairly well. And I love his matches against the current number 1(Seth).
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
June 08 2011 20:22 GMT
#139
On June 09 2011 03:40 myrmidon2537 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2011 12:41 Zlasher wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:28 myrmidon2537 wrote:
On June 08 2011 11:15 Zlasher wrote:
People can bitch all they want about Yun, but when they switch to him they'll STILL get bodied.


THIS. Body them all night long

Glad someones agreeing. I'm tired of the bitching. If you can't beat that person's main character other than a twin, then stop bitching and level up your game.



Back in the day, people body you with top-tiers, someone cries about it and runs to the top-tier, they still get bodied. even better if you switch to low-tiers and still body them. Level.Up.Your.Game.


The best is pwning some scrubs w/ Dan
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Floobie
Profile Joined February 2011
England296 Posts
June 08 2011 22:09 GMT
#140
Going to get this on Pc. Wanted to get a stick to play it with as i always played SF4 with my keyboard and enjoyed it so thought id treat myself to one.

Shame their horribly expensive in the UK though...
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