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On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect.
I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly.
I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am.
I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2.
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Don't get the me wrong. Portal 2 will be nice, good and all. But after Valve added those goddamned hats in TF2 it just destroyed the game experience. People doesn't even play the game anymore. They just keep trading and collecting that shit and the game is totally weird and colorful stuff you don't know nor care about.
tl;dr Portal 2 will be good if they don't try to milk the franchise out too much
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Don't get the me wrong. Portal 2 will be nice, good and all. But after Valve added those goddamned hats in TF2 it just destroyed the game experience. People doesn't even play the game anymore. They just keep trading and collecting that shit and the game is totally weird and colorful stuff you don't know nor care about.
Wow, this is just so ridiculously wrong. Tf2 was so great exactly because they kept updating it for freaking free after it came out (for YEARS!). Anyone who ever played that game from competitive level all the way down to 32-man dustbowl only should know that it still is and was badass.
Portal 2 promises to be one of the most exciting and flavorful experiences yet. The damn dedication to character development and plot in this coming game is scary. Hell even the robots in the coop are characters in their story (Atlas and Peebody). Apparently most people want to be Atlas the shorter fatter one and I pretty much agree, he is pretty sick.
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It's hard to pay that much money for it, specially if you compare to the first game. I realize this game will be much longer and bigger, but still...
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I'll wait till I have a friend to play the coop with, but I think I'll eventually get it.
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More than I'm willing to pay sadly, but I'm sure it'll be on sale soon enough and I'll probably play it then.
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On April 15 2011 17:30 Kishuu wrote:
Don't get the me wrong. Portal 2 will be nice, good and all. But after Valve added those goddamned hats in TF2 it just destroyed the game experience. People doesn't even play the game anymore. They just keep trading and collecting that shit and the game is totally weird and colorful stuff you don't know nor care about.
I have a list of EU public servers where people really play the game. PM if you want it.
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For the people saying it cost too much, Portal 2 isn't an indie game, it's an AA title. You can't compare the cost of 1 to 2. Portal 1 was much smaller in scope.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2.
The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line.
You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two.
1. "Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret.
2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts.
3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find.
They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about.
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On April 15 2011 17:43 SlipperySnake wrote:Show nested quote +Don't get the me wrong. Portal 2 will be nice, good and all. But after Valve added those goddamned hats in TF2 it just destroyed the game experience. People doesn't even play the game anymore. They just keep trading and collecting that shit and the game is totally weird and colorful stuff you don't know nor care about. Wow, this is just so ridiculously wrong. Tf2 was so great exactly because they kept updating it for freaking free after it came out (for YEARS!). Anyone who ever played that game from competitive level all the way down to 32-man dustbowl only should know that it still is and was badass. For a long time, sure. The first few class updates in particular were excellent. But it started going downhill after they started adding more and more items that, I'd argue, are not in the spirit of the original (hats, swords, etc). The store was the final nail in the coffin for me.
Anyway, I'd be very suprised if Portal had that kind of problems. Just replayed the first one yesterday in preparation for some gaming goodness.
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On April 15 2011 19:43 krbz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2. The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line. You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two. 1. " Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret. 2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts. 3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find. They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about.
I am fully aware of all these connections, having finished the original game and its episodes easily over 30 times. I prefer shooting bullets over shooting portals. It's kind of that simple.
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On April 15 2011 19:43 krbz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2. The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line. You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two. 1. " Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret. 2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts. 3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find. They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about.
Yea but still, you can't deny the fact that if Valve spent all it's resources to develop Half-Life instead of making Portal 1&2 + TF2, we'd have HL EP3 by now.
Personally I don't mind the wait for EP3.. I love Portal and TF. ))
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I'm going into G-man withdrawal here
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for the people complaining about cost, if you preorder it it's 33% cheaper than any other triple a pc title around. More so for console. It's a full featured single player + seperate coop game, plus knowing valve they'll have factored in some surprises gameplay wise so you get way more than your money is worth.
For the people waiting till it gets cheaper, c'mon. Pirate all the overpriced EA bullshit you like, but when a developer tries to give you value for money, SUPPORT THEM, or you'll never see it catch on.
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On April 15 2011 20:10 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 19:43 krbz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2. The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line. You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two. 1. " Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret. 2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts. 3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find. They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about. I am fully aware of all these connections, having finished the original game and its episodes easily over 30 times. I prefer shooting bullets over shooting portals. It's kind of that simple.
And some people really like Portal. And they're in this particular thread for some reason. And you're shitting on the game for a really bad reason. So go.
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On April 15 2011 20:37 how2TL wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:10 maartendq wrote:On April 15 2011 19:43 krbz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2. The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line. You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two. 1. " Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret. 2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts. 3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find. They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about. I am fully aware of all these connections, having finished the original game and its episodes easily over 30 times. I prefer shooting bullets over shooting portals. It's kind of that simple. And some people really like Portal. And they're in this particular thread for some reason. And you're shitting on the game for a really bad reason. So go.
How am I shitting on the game when the only two things I've said are that I don't find portal 1 a milestone of a game and that I'd rather have valve finish EP3 instead of working on their sideprojects?
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On April 15 2011 21:05 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:37 how2TL wrote:On April 15 2011 20:10 maartendq wrote:On April 15 2011 19:43 krbz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2. The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line. You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two. 1. " Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret. 2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts. 3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find. They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about. I am fully aware of all these connections, having finished the original game and its episodes easily over 30 times. I prefer shooting bullets over shooting portals. It's kind of that simple. And some people really like Portal. And they're in this particular thread for some reason. And you're shitting on the game for a really bad reason. So go. How am I shitting on the game when the only two things I've said are that I don't find portal 1 a milestone of a game and that I'd rather have valve finish EP3 instead of working on their sideprojects?
Eh, this is a Portal 2 thread, so there are probably a ton of Portal fans viewing the thread that might take your opinion of Portal a bit too seriously. Probably not a good idea to express that opinion in the middle of a Portal thread. When in Rome, do as the Romans do.
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On April 15 2011 21:05 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 20:37 how2TL wrote:On April 15 2011 20:10 maartendq wrote:On April 15 2011 19:43 krbz wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On April 15 2011 17:23 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:44 Fyodor wrote:On April 15 2011 06:18 maartendq wrote:On February 28 2011 08:34 Dankmids wrote:On February 28 2011 06:00 NicolBolas wrote:Portal 2 takes nothing away from hl2EP3 development, you can already see that EP3 will be on the improved engine portal 2 is on, also seperate teams I bet you also think that Ep3 was being developed for the last 3 years too. Please. Valve made two L4D games while working on Portal 2 and constantly throwing content to TF2. Valve is not a particularly large company. If they hadn't made Portal 2, the time, money, and people that would have gone into Portal 2's development could have gone into Ep3's development. We could have been getting Episode 3 right now, but we're not. We're getting Portal 2 instead, because Portal somehow out-ranks Half-Life for development resources. Even though HL is the only reason Valve exists. You have to remember, the voice actor for Breen died, no one knows outside of valve IF they needed him for ep3, maybe he had a big part in it and had to change a lot of the story of ep3 to do without him. EP3 was not in development the last three years, probably very little and has been worked on a lot more for at least a year now. But im a major valve die hard, i grew up on half life, so i dont care if ep3 isnt out for another year or two because it will be the last half life for a long long time. Breen died in HL2, so they don't need his voice actor anymore. Either way, if you listened to the commentary included in the first L4D you'd know that the L4D team is not the same team working on HL2: EP1/2/3 or TF2. To be honest, I'm kind of disappointed that it's taking them so long to finish EP3, and I'm kind of expecting them to already be working on HL3 instead. It's been five (or was it six?) years since EP1 came out, four years since EP2 came out and we've still got zero information on EP3. On Portal 2: I won't be buying it any time soon. The first game was fun, but it didn't really "waw" me. It was a good addition to the Orange Box, but I'd have never bought it outside of that package. I guess you're not that into revolutionary gaming experiences? Portal was by far the best game in the Orange Box. Team Fortress 2 was pretty fun but Portal was pure genius and deserves more respect. I don't see how Portal was or is revolutionary. It had zero influence on the development of games after it. It was a fun yet short puzzle game, but that was about it. TF2 was fun, but I played a lot of TFC back in the day so I got tired of that game pretty quickly too. I already owned HL2 and EP1 and finished those repeatedly. I basically bought the orange box for EP2, which I still play pretty often (best pacing in any game ever). That's how much of a HL2 fanatic I am. I'm one of those people who wants VALVE to stop making stuff like Portal, L4D or DOTA2 and focus all available resources on making EP3 even better (and three times longer) than EP2. The Half Life series that you are so fanatical about, is highly connected to Portal. It is amazing to me that you love the game so much and yet know very little about the greater story line. You should maybe look around a little bit and stop being so closed minded. There is plenty of information on the links between the two. 1. " Borealis": The Borealis is an Aperture Science research vessel introduced in Half-Life 2: Episode Two. According to Isaac Kleiner, Aperture was working on a promising project, but in their rush to beat Black Mesa for funding, they neglected ordinary safety rules and it appears that the ship simply disappeared with parts of her dry dock, which earned her an almost legendary stature. It is assumed that the Borealis contained an immensely powerful and dangerous secret. 2. Aperture Science(Portal) and Black Mesa(Half Life) continually fought for government contracts. 3. ....I wont list them all. Go look for your self as they are not hard to find. They are not wasting time on this useless "stuff", and I'd suggest you don't blabber on about things you know little-to-nothing about. I am fully aware of all these connections, having finished the original game and its episodes easily over 30 times. I prefer shooting bullets over shooting portals. It's kind of that simple. And some people really like Portal. And they're in this particular thread for some reason. And you're shitting on the game for a really bad reason. So go. How am I shitting on the game when the only two things I've said are that I don't find portal 1 a milestone of a game and that I'd rather have valve finish EP3 instead of working on their sideprojects?
Who are you to call Portal 2 a side project? It'd be like saying Blizzard should've worked on Starcraft 2 instead of World of Warcraft... or Diablo 3 instead of Starcraft 2. Valve has a number of major franchises. Portal happens to be the newest, but that doesn't mean it isn't worthy of Valve's time. So, in short, your opinion is kinda worthless in this thread. I, for example, prefer shooting portals to shooting bullets (although I also thoroughly enjoyed HL).
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Psyched! I doubt this "early release" is actually going to happen, we'll probably get some sort of web ad-campaign instead, but whatever.
On April 15 2011 20:30 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
for the people complaining about cost, if you preorder it it's 33% cheaper than any other triple a pc title around. More so for console. It's a full featured single player + seperate coop game, plus knowing valve they'll have factored in some surprises gameplay wise so you get way more than your money is worth.
For the people waiting till it gets cheaper, c'mon. Pirate all the overpriced EA bullshit you like, but when a developer tries to give you value for money, SUPPORT THEM, or you'll never see it catch on.
Agreed a 100%. Valve doesn't rush their games, this looks like an obvious labor of love to me, and that's becoming a really rare thing in the gaming industry. I'm happy and delighted to give them my $45.
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On April 15 2011 20:30 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
for the people complaining about cost, if you preorder it it's 33% cheaper than any other triple a pc title around. More so for console. It's a full featured single player + seperate coop game, plus knowing valve they'll have factored in some surprises gameplay wise so you get way more than your money is worth.
For the people waiting till it gets cheaper, c'mon. Pirate all the overpriced EA bullshit you like, but when a developer tries to give you value for money, SUPPORT THEM, or you'll never see it catch on.
In addition, the PS3 version comes with a free copy of the PC version so that you can share the cross-platform co-op with your friends. Or enemies.
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