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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13406 Posts
November 16 2011 15:23 GMT
#5941
On November 16 2011 21:49 Sm3agol wrote:
How well do "troll builds" work in this game? And by that I mean, for example, I want to make a mage who levels up NOTHING but magic the entire game, no health, no stamina. Never use anything but spells and conjured weapons, and no normal armor. Basically, can you make anything work if you try hard enough, or would something like what I'm suggesting be just laughably bad, and unable to get past anything.


Youll be a glass cannon but it can work im sure. Archers will wreck you if you get seen though on any higher difficulty level
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:53:16
November 16 2011 15:23 GMT
#5942
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it with any one-handed weapon, so it doesnt have to be a dagger.

edit: its hard to type on my phone, will correct the spelling when im home. sorry
edit2: did the typos
Always look on the bright side of life
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13406 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:26:17
November 16 2011 15:24 GMT
#5943
On November 17 2011 00:19 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:13 tofucake wrote:
On November 16 2011 22:30 Torte de Lini wrote:
So many quests are bugged or dont work for me.

I'm doing one in Markarth where I need to find Margret's evidence or something, but she has nothing.

Go to the inn, then go to the upper room in the first hallway on the left, look in the end table (maybe just on top?) for Margret's Journal. Took me a solid 30 minutes poking around the place to find it :\


You can also ask about it in town and people will point you to SilverBlood inn.
Or maybe I just asked the inn keeper can't remember.

I didn't find any evidence on Nepo or Thalmor though, although I sneaked into their houses :/

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:14 ZeromuS wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:28 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
A Night to Remember is possibly my favourite quest in any game ever
and I haven't even finished it yet.


It gives you an item which is now making me want to change my magic class


like broken mages even need any items!

unless it aids healing I have no use for it



Just wait till you use the thing is a beast

On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.



Actually theres a perk for x15 for daggers then x2 means you get x30


Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they patch out stacking % bonuses. I don't really feel like it was intended when you see some of the expoitation that people are doing in this game lol
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 16 2011 15:24 GMT
#5944
On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.


The gloves give double, which stacks with the x15 from daggers perk in the Sneak tree.

For x30.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
November 16 2011 15:25 GMT
#5945
On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.


There is a perk that gives you x15 backstab with daggers, with that and the gloves you can reach x30.
FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:33:51
November 16 2011 15:25 GMT
#5946
On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.


there's a perk in the sneak tree that gives you x15 sneak damage with daggers


edit: cool, a whole page answering to the same guy
Kevmeister @ Dota2
Valashu
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands561 Posts
November 16 2011 15:32 GMT
#5947
Love the game, hate the map, I hope the map mod of that Russian guy comes through and stops being so low res.
The superior pilot uses his superior judgement to avoid exercising his superior skill.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#5948
"Ok, I'm ten levels higher than the first time I tried to fight a bear. I have stronger spells and more powerful armor, and a dwarven sword. I got this thing."

*Use all of my magic up with dual wield destruction spells, bear is at 2/3 health. I pull out my sword and shield, get mauled in 3 hits*

.................. :/
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Causality~
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway150 Posts
November 16 2011 15:57 GMT
#5949
Haha, been there done that, I think the game somewhat scales with ur lvl
Jaedong <3
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 15:59:08
November 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#5950
On November 17 2011 00:25 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.


There is a perk that gives you x15 backstab with daggers, with that and the gloves you can reach x30.


I quoted you but its to everybody.
The Shrouded gloves say that they double " backstab"
Backstab is a perk that gives you 6x damage with a one-handed weapon
The perk that gives you 15x damage with a dagger is called "assasins blade"
The gloves do not give 30x bonus with a dagger.

edit: cool that I am the only guy that took the trouble to actually read what it did
Always look on the bright side of life
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 16 2011 15:59 GMT
#5951
On November 17 2011 00:56 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Ok, I'm ten levels higher than the first time I tried to fight a bear. I have stronger spells and more powerful armor, and a dwarven sword. I got this thing."

*Use all of my magic up with dual wield destruction spells, bear is at 2/3 health. I pull out my sword and shield, get mauled in 3 hits*

.................. :/


Yeah, I feel like they fixed a lot of the issues that Oblivion had with level-scaling, but the bears are still on steroids. I've had a couple take down Dragons for me single handed.
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
November 16 2011 16:03 GMT
#5952
On November 17 2011 00:59 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:56 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Ok, I'm ten levels higher than the first time I tried to fight a bear. I have stronger spells and more powerful armor, and a dwarven sword. I got this thing."

*Use all of my magic up with dual wield destruction spells, bear is at 2/3 health. I pull out my sword and shield, get mauled in 3 hits*

.................. :/


Yeah, I feel like they fixed a lot of the issues that Oblivion had with level-scaling, but the bears are still on steroids. I've had a couple take down Dragons for me single handed.


Just get paralyze. Dragons can resist it but bears can't. They are your plaything for 15 seconds.
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
November 16 2011 16:07 GMT
#5953
On November 17 2011 01:03 sc4k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:59 ZasZ. wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:56 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Ok, I'm ten levels higher than the first time I tried to fight a bear. I have stronger spells and more powerful armor, and a dwarven sword. I got this thing."

*Use all of my magic up with dual wield destruction spells, bear is at 2/3 health. I pull out my sword and shield, get mauled in 3 hits*

.................. :/


Yeah, I feel like they fixed a lot of the issues that Oblivion had with level-scaling, but the bears are still on steroids. I've had a couple take down Dragons for me single handed.


Just get paralyze. Dragons can resist it but bears can't. They are your plaything for 15 seconds.


Kinky ;-)
That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
PoopLord
Profile Joined May 2010
537 Posts
November 16 2011 16:07 GMT
#5954
So I walk into a city and see somebody getting executed. I listened to his reasoning and decided to intervene. I shouted at the executioner and slashed through the crowd. When I finally reached the prisoner, it turned out he was already dead. DAMN YOU SCRIPTS
duncan.mc
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States231 Posts
November 16 2011 16:08 GMT
#5955
On November 17 2011 00:58 Deckkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:25 SKC wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.


There is a perk that gives you x15 backstab with daggers, with that and the gloves you can reach x30.


I quoted you but its to everybody.
The Shrouded gloves say that they double " backstab"
Backstab is a perk that gives you 6x damage with a one-handed weapon
The perk that gives you 15x damage with a dagger is called "assasins blade"
The gloves do not give 30x bonus with a dagger.

edit: cool that I am the only guy that took the trouble to actually read what it did


Game says otherwise.
+ Show Spoiler +

djm858
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
November 16 2011 16:09 GMT
#5956
On November 17 2011 00:14 Sm3agol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 16 2011 21:51 HellRoxYa wrote:
On November 16 2011 21:49 Sm3agol wrote:
How well do "troll builds" work in this game? And by that I mean, for example, I want to make a mage who levels up NOTHING but magic the entire game, no health, no stamina. Never use anything but spells and conjured weapons, and no normal armor. Basically, can you make anything work if you try hard enough, or would something like what I'm suggesting be just laughably bad, and unable to get past anything.


Why wouldn't a full mage work?

I mean you get at least one meatshield to carry with you at all times.

I guess I should have been more specific about my "troll build" I want to do when I get this game. I want to go, like, alteration/conjuration/illusion/restoration/etc, no real offensive spells, just conjure weapons/armor/minions and raise zombies, basically a D2 necro. Run around mostly naked, and with no weapons, just an infinite mana pool.


yes that will easily work, you will even have plenty of armor from the alteration perks

If you wanna troll you are going to have to do something like all illusion glass cannon, that might be tricky in some spots
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
November 16 2011 16:10 GMT
#5957
On November 17 2011 00:24 ZeromuS wrote:

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they patch out stacking % bonuses. I don't really feel like it was intended when you see some of the expoitation that people are doing in this game lol



its a single player game, i dont think anyone cares.
I mean, Morrowind and Oblivion had even more unbalanced stuff in them, especially morrowind with its alchemy.
987987879 int for 8923048982034 hrs
sc4k
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United Kingdom5454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-16 16:13:20
November 16 2011 16:12 GMT
#5958
On November 17 2011 01:10 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:24 ZeromuS wrote:

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if they patch out stacking % bonuses. I don't really feel like it was intended when you see some of the expoitation that people are doing in this game lol



its a single player game, i dont think anyone cares.
I mean, Morrowind and Oblivion had even more unbalanced stuff in them, especially morrowind with its alchemy.
987987879 int for 8923048982034 hrs


Yeah what the hell, 9999 damage to everything within radius of 8 miles fireball gogo.

Also, is it possible in Skyrim to get 100% chameleon? In Oblivion you can EASILY get that, and then you are completely invisible for the entire game and nothing can ever find you. It's the most boring thing in the world because you never actually have to fight anyone.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
November 16 2011 16:12 GMT
#5959
Man all I need to do to kill any big boss is dual-hand lightning bolt. Feels so overpowered. Every blast stuns your target, so you can essentially chain-stun them forever with enough mana regen.

Also the atmosphere in this game is getting really depressing. It's always snowy and cold. I just want a nice sunny day to kill things in for once!
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
November 16 2011 16:12 GMT
#5960
On November 17 2011 01:08 duncan.mc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 00:58 Deckkie wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:25 SKC wrote:
On November 17 2011 00:23 Deckkie wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:22 FliedLice wrote:
On November 16 2011 23:06 wheelchairs wrote:
such an awesome game, i like it even more than oblivion.
I am lvl 18 rogue. Sneak is awesome and very smooth in this game, plus with dual savagery making 2x dagger attacks +50% dmg, and sneak attack x15 dmg with daggers, plus using enchanting, i am already doing a ton of damage, I have sneak around 50 right now, but can't wait for 70 to get the shadow warrior perk, sounds awesome to be able to hide in plain sight in front of someone.


you can get it up to x30 backstab damage with the right gloves, it's glorious!
+ Show Spoiler +
dark brotherhood.

the gloves only give double to backstab.
Backstab is only x6 but u can do it wirg aby one-handed weapon, sk it doesnt ha e to be a dagger.


There is a perk that gives you x15 backstab with daggers, with that and the gloves you can reach x30.


I quoted you but its to everybody.
The Shrouded gloves say that they double " backstab"
Backstab is a perk that gives you 6x damage with a one-handed weapon
The perk that gives you 15x damage with a dagger is called "assasins blade"
The gloves do not give 30x bonus with a dagger.

edit: cool that I am the only guy that took the trouble to actually read what it did


Game says otherwise.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB07yLTr6pA



I stand corrected.
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