EPTNBA 2010-2011 Season - Page 138
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cHaNg-sTa
United States1058 Posts
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KOFgokuon
United States14894 Posts
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sixghost
United States2096 Posts
On March 23 2011 18:07 MassHysteria wrote: I never watch the Wizard's play, is Javale McGee just going to end up as Washington's Tyrus Thomas? I remember when everyone in Chicago was excited for Tyrus because of plays like that.Ya I really hope they don't cancel it either, and definitely good ending today. I can't tell if the fight takes place in next week's season finale but at least it looks like they are setting it up for a second season (hopefully). On another note: Javale McGee= MassHysteria Wesley Matthews= Ace what nowww son, this is my house.  jp man <3 | ||
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
On March 24 2011 04:15 sixghost wrote: I never watch the Wizard's play, is Javale McGee just going to end up as Washington's Tyrus Thomas? I remember when everyone in Chicago was excited for Tyrus because of plays like that. man if Tyrus had a brain, he couldve been something. but meh, could say that to most NBA guys. lol. | ||
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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MassHysteria
United States3678 Posts
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Southlight
United States11767 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On March 23 2011 22:39 KOFgokuon wrote: Tough to say between vince carter and chris webber imo Webber has the excuse of being injured. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On March 23 2011 22:04 Zorkmid wrote: I think that Vince Carter is one of the biggest wastes of talent in the history of the NBA. Had more natural athletic ability than just about anyone ever at his position. Such a great scorer, at one point in his career I'd say that no one scored easier than he did. So smooth. He's never kept himself in shape, he now looks like a marshmallow with 4 toothpicks sticking out. Had no physical or mental toughness, no killer instinct. Doesn't seem to take any pride. So, I gotta disagree with you Anti, VC has been a scrub for 13 years. There are tons of physically talented players. Few make the nba and fewer have the motivation to take it to the next level. See James White. + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vR2XFpaoOxo 4:45 Jordan's the exception, not the rule. A lot of people are waiting for Lebron to have the Jordan/Kobe desire (Lebron's competitiveness is good, but not great) to accompany his talent. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
Vince Carter might actually make the Hall of Fame, so yeah...weird player. | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
Also maybe lack of focus but he has a ton more heart than vince carter ever did, all one has to do is rewatch the 4th quarter vs the spurs video. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:14 Ack1027 wrote: Well I think Tmac was plagued by injury more than vince carter. Also maybe lack of focus but he has a ton more heart than vince carter ever did, all one has to do is rewatch the 4th quarter vs the spurs video. Yeah, well said, for all the Derrick Rose fanboys and that "carrying his team" noise - take a look at T-Mac's 2002-2003 season with the Magic, then look at that roster. Kazaam. B-Ref for T-Mac: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html Roster for 2002-2003: http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/orlando-magic/team/roster/03/20/1 | ||
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ThumperSD
United States333 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:09 slyboogie wrote: Vince Carter's cousin, Tracy McGrady was probably the most physically talented player of his generation at the wing spots. He was 6'8'' with a 7'2'' wingspan, 40 inch vert, fantastic range on his jumper, strong vision, ankle breaking cross over and, obviously, "dunkability." Unfortunately, injuries, bad luck and "lack of focus" (I don't totally buy this one,) hurt his legacy. Vince Carter might actually make the Hall of Fame, so yeah...weird player. I dont think he should. He hasnt done much since leaving Toronto. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:54 ThumperSD wrote: I dont think he should. He hasnt done much since leaving Toronto. If you look at his career accomplishments, they're actually relatively impressive when compared to other HoFers. That being said, I wouldn't vote for him either. Go Clips!!!! | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Never liked Carmelo Anthony. | ||
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PanoRaMa
United States5069 Posts
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iDoMiNaTe2.0
288 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:42 slyboogie wrote: Yeah, well said, for all the Derrick Rose fanboys and that "carrying his team" noise - take a look at T-Mac's 2002-2003 season with the Magic, then look at that roster. Kazaam. B-Ref for T-Mac: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcgratr01.html Roster for 2002-2003: http://www.hoopsstats.com/basketball/fantasy/nba/orlando-magic/team/roster/03/20/1 Not the same Orlando was like the 8th seed yeah of course he carried the team, but its like when Kobe put up 35 ppg he didn't win MVP. Rose is the MVP this year I'm the biggest Miami Heat fan, but even I can see this. | ||
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MilesTeg
France1271 Posts
On March 24 2011 11:09 slyboogie wrote: Vince Carter's cousin, Tracy McGrady was probably the most physically talented player of his generation at the wing spots. He was 6'8'' with a 7'2'' wingspan, 40 inch vert, fantastic range on his jumper, strong vision, ankle breaking cross over and, obviously, "dunkability." Unfortunately, injuries, bad luck and "lack of focus" (I don't totally buy this one,) hurt his legacy. Vince Carter might actually make the Hall of Fame, so yeah...weird player. I think he's always been insanely overrated. He used to take the stupidest shots, made a living with his off screen jumpers, which weren't actually that good. I guess it's the kind of player that's good only in really tough defensive games, where it's so hard to score that you might think "oh well might as well jack up a contested fadeway 3". To be fair I think most if not all star wing players are ridiculously overrated, not just him. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On March 24 2011 21:14 iDoMiNaTe2.0 wrote: Not the same Orlando was like the 8th seed yeah of course he carried the team, but its like when Kobe put up 35 ppg he didn't win MVP. Rose is the MVP this year I'm the biggest Miami Heat fan, but even I can see this. It's exactly the same thing. If you had given T-Mac: 39 games of Joakim Noah, 47 games of Carlos Boozer and 68 games of Taj Gibson, he would have won 53-55 games. There is nothing magical about Derrick Rose, his teammates are good. I think he's always been insanely overrated. He used to take the stupidest shots, made a living with his off screen jumpers, which weren't actually that good. I guess it's the kind of player that's good only in really tough defensive games, where it's so hard to score that you might think "oh well might as well jack up a contested fadeway 3". To be fair I think most if not all star wing players are ridiculously overrated, not just him. You sound like David Berri. Wing players are overrated in the sense that they are the "sexiest" and most "ballerific" players. No one wants to play like Shaq in the park, you don't brag that your game is like Kevin Love's...you want to cross fools up. That sentiment translates to some over valuation of wing players. BUT...scoring on the perimeter is a necessary skill in basketball, as is getting your own shot up - both skills which T-Mac possessed abundantly. You can't win basketball games with 5 Luis Scola's or 5 Dwight Howards...maybe 5 Hakeems would do it...but my point is, wing players are a necessity and while jump shots will invariably be less efficient than post moves, that doesn't mean they are unnecessary. Don't mean to pile on you in particular, but this is sort of a trend in the analytics community that bothers me. | ||
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