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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 16 2011 16:46 GMT
#1161
GOT IT! And it involves mimic vat!

Parallel Lives + Heartless Summoning + Mimic Vat + Sundial of the Infinite + your creature of choice. Five card combo people, make it happen.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 17:11:57
September 16 2011 17:10 GMT
#1162
Alright, enough about Heartless Summoning, let's talk about Unburial Rites. ESPER REANIMATOR DECK GOGOGO!

Seriously, a perfect deck for Liliana, all of the mill and GY creatures in blue (Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Skaab Reanimator, hell, even Civilized Scholar), and huge fatties like Sphinx, Sheoldred, Elesh Norn, even Phyrexian Obliterator.

Or you could go G/W/B with the new dual lands that would support that sort of color combo and put some ramp like birds, pilgrim, etc in to ramp you into a faster unburial rites or just straight into your huge fatties.

I really want more of this card, AND it's an uncommon so hopefully it'll be cheap before it blows up into a standard deck.

DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 18:39:23
September 16 2011 18:14 GMT
#1163
On September 17 2011 02:10 deth2munkies wrote:
Alright, enough about Heartless Summoning, let's talk about Unburial Rites. ESPER REANIMATOR DECK GOGOGO!

Seriously, a perfect deck for Liliana, all of the mill and GY creatures in blue (Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Skaab Reanimator, hell, even Civilized Scholar), and huge fatties like Sphinx, Sheoldred, Elesh Norn, even Phyrexian Obliterator.

Or you could go G/W/B with the new dual lands that would support that sort of color combo and put some ramp like birds, pilgrim, etc in to ramp you into a faster unburial rites or just straight into your huge fatties.

I really want more of this card, AND it's an uncommon so hopefully it'll be cheap before it blows up into a standard deck.


I think esper is the way to go since you get the new impulse with flashback too. Seems like it could be decent. You also get vision of beyond which would probably be really good in the deck. Also, I wouldn't play skaab ruinator as you would have to rfg unburial targets.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 16 2011 20:17 GMT
#1164
On September 17 2011 03:14 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 02:10 deth2munkies wrote:
Alright, enough about Heartless Summoning, let's talk about Unburial Rites. ESPER REANIMATOR DECK GOGOGO!

Seriously, a perfect deck for Liliana, all of the mill and GY creatures in blue (Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Skaab Reanimator, hell, even Civilized Scholar), and huge fatties like Sphinx, Sheoldred, Elesh Norn, even Phyrexian Obliterator.

Or you could go G/W/B with the new dual lands that would support that sort of color combo and put some ramp like birds, pilgrim, etc in to ramp you into a faster unburial rites or just straight into your huge fatties.

I really want more of this card, AND it's an uncommon so hopefully it'll be cheap before it blows up into a standard deck.


I think esper is the way to go since you get the new impulse with flashback too. Seems like it could be decent. You also get vision of beyond which would probably be really good in the deck. Also, I wouldn't play skaab ruinator as you would have to rfg unburial targets.

Well yeah, but there's no tutors for Unburial Rites (revealed yet) so if you end up not having it in your opening hand and not drawing or milling it in the first few turns, it's a good backup plan.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
September 16 2011 20:23 GMT
#1165
That deck just seems like a less consistent version of Birthing Pod...maybe Unburial Rites will make the Black version of Birthing Pod more appealing?
Get it by your hands...
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 20:43:00
September 16 2011 20:40 GMT
#1166
On September 17 2011 05:17 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 03:14 DEN1ED wrote:
On September 17 2011 02:10 deth2munkies wrote:
Alright, enough about Heartless Summoning, let's talk about Unburial Rites. ESPER REANIMATOR DECK GOGOGO!

Seriously, a perfect deck for Liliana, all of the mill and GY creatures in blue (Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Skaab Reanimator, hell, even Civilized Scholar), and huge fatties like Sphinx, Sheoldred, Elesh Norn, even Phyrexian Obliterator.

Or you could go G/W/B with the new dual lands that would support that sort of color combo and put some ramp like birds, pilgrim, etc in to ramp you into a faster unburial rites or just straight into your huge fatties.

I really want more of this card, AND it's an uncommon so hopefully it'll be cheap before it blows up into a standard deck.


I think esper is the way to go since you get the new impulse with flashback too. Seems like it could be decent. You also get vision of beyond which would probably be really good in the deck. Also, I wouldn't play skaab ruinator as you would have to rfg unburial targets.

Well yeah, but there's no tutors for Unburial Rites (revealed yet) so if you end up not having it in your opening hand and not drawing or milling it in the first few turns, it's a good backup plan.


I guess we just have completley different idea for the deck. I was thinking something more controlling like :

+ Show Spoiler +
25 Land

3 Vision of Beyond
4 Mana Leak
3 Dismember
2 Day of Judgement
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Unburial Rites

4 Snapcaster Mage

6 Big Creatures

4 Liliana of the Veil
2 Gideon


I don't think going for a fast reanimate is a good idea. The cards are just too slow. Early game just control, play PWs, use alchemy to fill GY, then lategame reanimate finisher. 6 creatures is actually probably too many.
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-16 21:07:22
September 16 2011 21:07 GMT
#1167
On September 17 2011 05:40 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2011 05:17 deth2munkies wrote:
On September 17 2011 03:14 DEN1ED wrote:
On September 17 2011 02:10 deth2munkies wrote:
Alright, enough about Heartless Summoning, let's talk about Unburial Rites. ESPER REANIMATOR DECK GOGOGO!

Seriously, a perfect deck for Liliana, all of the mill and GY creatures in blue (Mirror-Mad Phantasm, Skaab Reanimator, hell, even Civilized Scholar), and huge fatties like Sphinx, Sheoldred, Elesh Norn, even Phyrexian Obliterator.

Or you could go G/W/B with the new dual lands that would support that sort of color combo and put some ramp like birds, pilgrim, etc in to ramp you into a faster unburial rites or just straight into your huge fatties.

I really want more of this card, AND it's an uncommon so hopefully it'll be cheap before it blows up into a standard deck.


I think esper is the way to go since you get the new impulse with flashback too. Seems like it could be decent. You also get vision of beyond which would probably be really good in the deck. Also, I wouldn't play skaab ruinator as you would have to rfg unburial targets.

Well yeah, but there's no tutors for Unburial Rites (revealed yet) so if you end up not having it in your opening hand and not drawing or milling it in the first few turns, it's a good backup plan.


I guess we just have completley different idea for the deck. I was thinking something more controlling like :

+ Show Spoiler +
25 Land

3 Vision of Beyond
4 Mana Leak
3 Dismember
2 Day of Judgement
4 Forbidden Alchemy
3 Unburial Rites

4 Snapcaster Mage

6 Big Creatures

4 Liliana of the Veil
2 Gideon


I don't think going for a fast reanimate is a good idea. The cards are just too slow. Early game just control, play PWs, use alchemy to fill GY, then lategame reanimate finisher. 6 creatures is actually probably too many.

Well here's the thing: you still need plays for the first few turns to protect your liliana and your life total from aggro vampires/werewolfs (both have some very powerful low drops) and other aggro decks like illusions. I'd at least put in some looting creatures or azure mages that can chump in a pinch and Skaab ruinator to be, if nothing else, a blocker early that prevents you from dying. Either that or more black removal (doom blades, go for the throat, etc) that you can also flashback with Snapcaster Mage. Also I'd run at least 3 Sheoldreds as fatties, she can bring back all your other stuff too.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 17 2011 01:11 GMT
#1168
I'm working on an Esper Control deck for the po-ro. It's basically built on the back of U/B Control from the current meta but with some twists. Fiend Hunter and Mentor of the Meek should be great additions, Mentor especially now that Sea Gate Oracle is leaving us. Nevermore for lockdown, etc.

Sea Gate Oracle+ Heartless Summoning!!! DOH!!!!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
September 17 2011 06:37 GMT
#1169
Decklist: + Show Spoiler +
4x Phantasmal Bear
4x Phantasmal Image
4x Phantasmal Dragon
4x Lord of the Unreal
4x Grand Architect
22x Island
4x Mana Leak
3x Ponder
2x Gitaxian Probe
2x Wurmcoil Engine
3x Disperse
1x Caged Sun
3x Unified Will

Sideboard:
4x Flashfreeze
4x Dismember
2x Azure Mage
1x Mindslaver
2x Treasure Mage
2x Torpor Orb


So first FNM tonight. Really pissed at myself for going 2-2 drop when I could have easily gone 4-1 (still out of top 8, I had shit tiebreaks). I basically made a misplay I'd never make on modo and straight up forgot you can't Frost Breath after attackers were declared >< Played around it instead of killing him then paid for it (it was the mirror for what it's worth). I lost to mono red goblins and beat a pump infect deck and some random deck with a lot of fliers.

General thoughts on the deck:

Most often dead cards in my hand are Phantasmal Dragons. Sure they're good, but only if you have a lord in play and only if you can actually spare 4 mana, which you usually can't. You can't even cheat with GA on them.

They might be better with fetchlands or something, as getting mana screwed and flooded alternately was a real problem. I chalk that mostly to luck though, this deck is perfectly capable of winning with 2 lands in play and the right hand (and I did so...more than once), but it's one that doesn't want to draw 5 in a row even moreso than others.

Caged Sun was a non-factor as I never drew it (well, except for the final turn against goblins where it was Wurmcoil or dead...except he had grenade in hand anyway). but I traded a Skithiryx and Dragonskull Summit for a Metamorph and replaced it post tourney anyway.

I'm not convinced the Tempered Steel matchup is even winnable. Dismember is not the removal you want to be using, and you can't block the signal pests/ornithopters/vault skirges till turn 4 at earliest, and by then you're probably dead even with a dragon out. The only hope you have is for them to have a very slow draw and you a very fast one, or at least a very fast wurmcoil engine.

Same can be said for mono-red, but due to the lack of fliers, you can keep throwing out lords and bears for them to waste burn spells or attackers on. Your only real hope is to just stick a wurmcoil before they kill you or you just die.

There were a TON of the above decks at the tourney, and even if I had stayed in, I'd probably have to beat at least one of them for top 8.

My sideboarding against Goblins:
+ Show Spoiler +

-3 Unified Will
-4 Phantasmal Dragon
-1 Caged Sun
-3 Disperse
+2 Treasure Mage
+2 Azure Mage
+4 Flashfreeze
+3 Dismember


Dunno if it's right, other than the Dismembers coming in against the Illusions mirror, I didn't need any other sideboarding (the infect deck fizzled so hard in both games, I didn't know what it was till late game 2).
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-17 06:54:48
September 17 2011 06:46 GMT
#1170
Dragon too slow. Play like 4 Roil and more Image! Aether Adept too.

EDIT: Vapor Snag is another thing that might help you agaisnt TSteel if you don't want to spend the 4 life. I'd suggest keeping atleast 2 for titans in other matchups though. Also I'd say cut the mindslaver for the 3rd WCE in the board. Might help a bit in our aggro heavy format.

Also I played the infect guy and laughed as I turn 2'd melira both games. It made me giggle so hard.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
September 17 2011 12:44 GMT
#1171
Dismember is fine against Tempered Steel since they can't kill you without having creatures in play imo
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Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 17 2011 16:04 GMT
#1172
Playing mono white aggro at the force of will tourney today. I'll update as I go. Starts in five hours. Built it as best I could with the cards my friends and I have. Was almost able to make caw blade but was missing the swords, so meh. I can beat any red deck with 4 firewalkers and 3 timelies in my sideboard, more concerned about anything with blue in it.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
BeWat3r
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany182 Posts
September 17 2011 17:10 GMT
#1173
Hey folks,
right now I try to play the 2012 Online game and it keeps telling me, that the game isnt available...
Im from germany and I cant play since nearly a week now and dont know, how to fix that.
Anyone has some suggestions?
Greetings,
BeWat3r
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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 17 2011 18:25 GMT
#1174
With this new set, what do you guys think of Mono White, or W/X humans? I mean also remember that Mirran Crusader, Hero of Bladehold, and Grand Abolisher are Humans as well. Also with strong removal with Oring, dismember, and day. even opens you to timely reinforcements and Gideon. And the new set is pumping out some strong Humans to support these cards.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 17 2011 19:07 GMT
#1175
On September 18 2011 03:25 Shotcoder wrote:
With this new set, what do you guys think of Mono White, or W/X humans? I mean also remember that Mirran Crusader, Hero of Bladehold, and Grand Abolisher are Humans as well. Also with strong removal with Oring, dismember, and day. even opens you to timely reinforcements and Gideon. And the new set is pumping out some strong Humans to support these cards.


IDK, currently the only real good tribal human card is Champion of the Parish. I don't think that's enough to make it worth it yet.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 17 2011 20:23 GMT
#1176
White Green humans could be very strong. Mentor of the Meek is an engine that allows you to use the excess mana to continue to draw, but only if you aren't playing the green lord which kinda defeats the purpose. Mono white might also be playable, but the number of humans available is a bit ridiculous now.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-18 08:13:27
September 17 2011 23:53 GMT
#1177
I'm two and one so far with mono white shit deck. If I go 4-2 I make top eight and it's seeding for a mini tournament. So I just gotta win two more and only lose one!

I went 4-1-1 (guy offered draw and I took it!)! Made top 8 at my first constructed tournament! Tired as fuck, will post deck list. It was mono white hahahaha. When you guys read the decklist you will wonder how in the fuck I won, and I will continue to wonder with you (and everyone else at the tournament).

Battle report coming tomorrow morning. I won a fat pack of Innistrad, so no force of wills for me QQ
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 18 2011 00:42 GMT
#1178
Three and one!
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
InToTheWannaB
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4770 Posts
September 18 2011 00:49 GMT
#1179
On September 18 2011 03:25 Shotcoder wrote:
With this new set, what do you guys think of Mono White, or W/X humans? I mean also remember that Mirran Crusader, Hero of Bladehold, and Grand Abolisher are Humans as well. Also with strong removal with Oring, dismember, and day. even opens you to timely reinforcements and Gideon. And the new set is pumping out some strong Humans to support these cards.

I am going to start heading that way when the new set hits and hope more human tribe cards come. I already have alot of the big hitters from the knights deck i was playing, and with exemplar leaving i guess ill just go humans.
When the spirit is not altogether slain, great loss teaches men and women to desire greatly, both for themselves and for others.
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
September 18 2011 02:21 GMT
#1180
I don't want "Humans" to be a deck. It just sounds so...silly.
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