EPTgo 2-1 but who cares because i opened a sadrobot which pretty much pays for this draft zzz
2 stingerflings, 1 arachnus spinner with 1 web, get there!
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MCMcEmcee
United States1609 Posts
go 2-1 but who cares because i opened a sadrobot which pretty much pays for this draft zzz 2 stingerflings, 1 arachnus spinner with 1 web, get there! | ||
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Cixah
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lozarian
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Cixah
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On September 16 2011 11:52 slyboogie wrote: Right, it only affects creature spells. The best thing I've got for mimic vat is perilous myr as a three mana shock on a stick. please read your cards. this does not work. I am not going to tell you why because its better if you see it yourself. on a side note, this problem relates to one of the reasons I really dont like the "dies" terminology. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On September 16 2011 22:37 Orpheos wrote: please read your cards. this does not work. I am not going to tell you why because its better if you see it yourself. on a side note, this problem relates to one of the reasons I really dont like the "dies" terminology. Tokens hit the graveyard all the same...unless I am missing something else. Edit: Don't bring up Mimic Vat's wording, that is never an issue in this particular case. | ||
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DennizR
Sweden653 Posts
On September 16 2011 23:05 Judicator wrote: Tokens hit the graveyard all the same...unless I am missing something else. Yup, If the Perilous Myr token dies it triggers, however if it is exiled as a part of Mimic Vats effect, the ability does not trigger. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On September 16 2011 23:10 DennizR wrote: Yup, If the Perilous Myr token dies it triggers, however if it is exiled as a part of Mimic Vats effect, the ability does not trigger. MV's effect is not part of the equation here as long as HS is active. | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
On September 16 2011 23:14 Cixah wrote: But it is an issue? It never goes to the yard, IE no trigger? PM is 1/1, HS gives everything -1/-1, Mimic Vat makes token, HS SBEs the copy into the GY which triggers. MV never exiles the token. | ||
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DennizR
Sweden653 Posts
On September 16 2011 23:14 Judicator wrote: MV's effect is not part of the equation here as long as HS is active. Oh, sorry, didn't see you were talking about something more than just Mimic Vat + Perilous Myr. Yeah, anyhow, If the token dies it triggers, and it will die as a statebased effect immediately after being put into play by the Vat. | ||
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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
Also, I don't disagree with the inefficiency of 3 mana Shocks on a stick, but the deck needs cover. Assuming you want to hit this on the curve on the play, you are investing at least 5 cards of your first 3 turns, you need something else to make removal not a blow out. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
3 card combo for a souped up rod of ruin? | ||
Cel.erity
United States4890 Posts
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Cixah
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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Risen
United States7927 Posts
I have two gideons and three elspeths from drafting with friends, any way you think I could play a competitive standard deck that's white? | ||
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Cixah
United States11285 Posts
Edit: Little Kid Green White. Find Thruns, Find Mirran Crusaders, Find swords, faceroll. | ||
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slyboogie
United States3423 Posts
On September 16 2011 22:37 Orpheos wrote: please read your cards. this does not work. I am not going to tell you why because its better if you see it yourself. on a side note, this problem relates to one of the reasons I really dont like the "dies" terminology. I've read both cards. I'm pretty sure a token can die. The exiling part of mimic vat is not relevant if the token dies, no? Edit: just to be clear. When a token dies, it enters the graveyard then immediately becomes exiled. It still "dies." | ||
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