• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:53
CEST 09:53
KST 16:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Rough Waters10[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9
Community News
Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple2BSL Season 2313Weekly Cups (Sep 7-12): SHIN, ByuN, MaxPax double down1StarCraft open world shooter announced at BlizzCon101Weekly Cups (Aug 30-Sep 7): herO thrives amid growing schism10
StarCraft 2
General
How do you feel about the StarCraft shooter announcement at BlizzCon 2026? Balance hotfix patch 5.0.16b (July 16) Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool Weekly Cups (Sep 13-20): herO scores triple The Death of Cheese: From a Professional Cheeser
Tourneys
2026 GSTL Grand Finals ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) Stellar Fest TWO the Moon (Dec 16-20)
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Sweltering Sands [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 544 Double Trouble The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 543 Enhanced Defenses Mutation # 542 The Ascended
Brood War
General
StarCraft Human 'N' AI League Bot on ladder an AI researcher's take on the ladder bot BW General Discussion BSL Season 23
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL22] Ro8 Day 2 [ASL22] Ro8 Day 1 [IPSL] IPSL is Back With Winter 26-27!
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) Replay Review Process - What do you do? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation
Other Games
General Games
Warcraft III: The Frozen Throne Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread EVE Corporation Diablo IV
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25! Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Artificial Intelligence Thread All you football fans (soccer)!
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece Diablo Animated Series on Netflix
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Violent-Cooperative Play and…
TrAiDoS
38 yo Retired SWE loo…
PurE)Rabbit-SF
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
[meme] I finally understa…
LUCKY_NOOB
Regacy Esports:Our Goa…
regacyesports
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 10636 users

Magic: The Gathering - Page 53

Forum Index > General Games
Post a Reply
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 665 Next
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
September 10 2011 10:43 GMT
#1041
entered Standard FNM at a store I've never played at before but people I know play there, I was told that a lot of the regulars play aggro (monored aggro or monogreen infect) so I skewed my sideboard accordingly...
then played 4 consecutive UW mirrors, which I don't mind except when I only have 2 cards for the mirror and my opponent brings in like 5 cards =[
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 11 2011 00:42 GMT
#1042
On September 10 2011 19:43 MCMcEmcee wrote:
entered Standard FNM at a store I've never played at before but people I know play there, I was told that a lot of the regulars play aggro (monored aggro or monogreen infect) so I skewed my sideboard accordingly...
then played 4 consecutive UW mirrors, which I don't mind except when I only have 2 cards for the mirror and my opponent brings in like 5 cards =[


Try a couple of maindeck Azure Mages, and run 2 Sword of War and Peace. Both cards are good in the mirror and goblins matchups, and I guess they block Glistener Elves? Didn't know infect was a real deck.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 11 2011 04:43 GMT
#1043
It's funny when people do the live wire lash combo vs cawblade and they just go... Awwwwwww.

The deck itself isn't bad there are just better aggro cards.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-11 09:25:30
September 11 2011 08:54 GMT
#1044
On September 11 2011 09:42 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2011 19:43 MCMcEmcee wrote:
entered Standard FNM at a store I've never played at before but people I know play there, I was told that a lot of the regulars play aggro (monored aggro or monogreen infect) so I skewed my sideboard accordingly...
then played 4 consecutive UW mirrors, which I don't mind except when I only have 2 cards for the mirror and my opponent brings in like 5 cards =[


Try a couple of maindeck Azure Mages, and run 2 Sword of War and Peace. Both cards are good in the mirror and goblins matchups, and I guess they block Glistener Elves? Didn't know infect was a real deck.


Well against some versions of UW I bring in 2x Azure Mage from the board along with my normal package (1x Revoke 1x O-ring), usually against the more control-y versions as opposed to the aggro-Hero/Splicer/Crusader versions. Worked out ok, my losses were a major punt on my part (not doing combat math properly zzz) and losing the counter war over my opponent's 2nd Sun Titan of the game =[
Played a casual match with one of the better players to learn the mirror better and pretty much got owned by Jace living for 5 turns then losing fight over his Sphinx, multiple times. I'm not patient enough in the mirror, I always want to tap out for something =[

The infect deck is pretty much just a wannabe combo deck, like a terrible version of the Modern turn-2 infect deck. Instead of having actual ways to protect your combo you just hope they don't have it and dump every free pump spell in the format onto your Glistener Elf and BELIEVE. I am not terribly scared of it, playing a squawk or holding up pierce/leak is usually enough to end them zzz
[iHs]MCMcEmcee@UFO | のヮの
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
September 13 2011 09:35 GMT
#1045
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-13 15:23:05
September 13 2011 15:15 GMT
#1046
On September 13 2011 18:35 Risen wrote:
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD


You can watch Channel Fireball's vods. They are actually really good(well I found they were) and they give a lot of commentary on what they are doing, what card they chose and why they did. It is pretty much all MTGO and a huge chunk is drafts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChannelFireball?feature=chclk#p/p
Brood War forever!
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
September 13 2011 16:41 GMT
#1047
On September 14 2011 00:15 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2011 18:35 Risen wrote:
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD


You can watch Channel Fireball's vods. They are actually really good(well I found they were) and they give a lot of commentary on what they are doing, what card they chose and why they did. It is pretty much all MTGO and a huge chunk is drafts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChannelFireball?feature=chclk#p/p

They have many more drafts on their website using their own (somewhat shitty) video player, you can check those out too. Just remember not all of the drafters on that site are equal, some are great, but some aren't...
I can already see the ending
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
September 13 2011 17:09 GMT
#1048
On September 14 2011 01:41 DCLXVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 00:15 Kralic wrote:
On September 13 2011 18:35 Risen wrote:
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD


You can watch Channel Fireball's vods. They are actually really good(well I found they were) and they give a lot of commentary on what they are doing, what card they chose and why they did. It is pretty much all MTGO and a huge chunk is drafts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChannelFireball?feature=chclk#p/p

They have many more drafts on their website using their own (somewhat shitty) video player, you can check those out too. Just remember not all of the drafters on that site are equal, some are great, but some aren't...


I think LSV's videos are the best to stick to(He doesn't mind changing up his style of deck). Conley and Tom's are okay since they have different tastes on what they want in a deck.

Also the SOM all stars #2 I think with John Finkle is cool.
Brood War forever!
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
September 13 2011 17:42 GMT
#1049
On September 14 2011 02:09 Kralic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 01:41 DCLXVI wrote:
On September 14 2011 00:15 Kralic wrote:
On September 13 2011 18:35 Risen wrote:
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD


You can watch Channel Fireball's vods. They are actually really good(well I found they were) and they give a lot of commentary on what they are doing, what card they chose and why they did. It is pretty much all MTGO and a huge chunk is drafts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChannelFireball?feature=chclk#p/p

They have many more drafts on their website using their own (somewhat shitty) video player, you can check those out too. Just remember not all of the drafters on that site are equal, some are great, but some aren't...


I think LSV's videos are the best to stick to(He doesn't mind changing up his style of deck). Conley and Tom's are okay since they have different tastes on what they want in a deck.

Also the SOM all stars #2 I think with John Finkle is cool.

Yeah, each drafter has his quirks. LSV - too greedy sometimes, Conely - occasionally messes around, TomM - awful IMO, Ochoa - for some reason stops thinking when recording videos, but near perfect written ones, PV - hard to understand sometimes and not always up to date on the format (maybe takes a while to upload the vids), Owen - solid drafter, cant remember any bad points now.
I can already see the ending
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
September 13 2011 23:16 GMT
#1050
On September 14 2011 02:42 DCLXVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 02:09 Kralic wrote:
On September 14 2011 01:41 DCLXVI wrote:
On September 14 2011 00:15 Kralic wrote:
On September 13 2011 18:35 Risen wrote:
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD


You can watch Channel Fireball's vods. They are actually really good(well I found they were) and they give a lot of commentary on what they are doing, what card they chose and why they did. It is pretty much all MTGO and a huge chunk is drafts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChannelFireball?feature=chclk#p/p

They have many more drafts on their website using their own (somewhat shitty) video player, you can check those out too. Just remember not all of the drafters on that site are equal, some are great, but some aren't...


I think LSV's videos are the best to stick to(He doesn't mind changing up his style of deck). Conley and Tom's are okay since they have different tastes on what they want in a deck.

Also the SOM all stars #2 I think with John Finkle is cool.

Yeah, each drafter has his quirks. LSV - too greedy sometimes, Conely - occasionally messes around, TomM - awful IMO, Ochoa - for some reason stops thinking when recording videos, but near perfect written ones, PV - hard to understand sometimes and not always up to date on the format (maybe takes a while to upload the vids), Owen - solid drafter, cant remember any bad points now.

I watched a lot of their drafts this weekend, and one things I noticed about all of them is no one wants to play green. Every draft had the drafter saying that Green is open.

Is it really that bad?

The best game I saw was SORIN'S VENGEANCE owning the guy recording the vod to win the game.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
September 13 2011 23:23 GMT
#1051
Holy crap, PAST IN FLAMES IS AWESOME I WANT 4. Curiosity getting reprinted too.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
September 13 2011 23:27 GMT
#1052
Green's okay. I definitely think it's in the bottom two colors in terms of raw power - between Black and Green, imo. That being said, you're always happy with Cudgel Troll and the Spiders. Overrun makes you feel like a brute but it always works!

Also, I don't like the rares very much. Garruk's Horde is terrible, Elvish Archdruid is mega blech, Double Chant, Rites of Flourishing. Ick. Even Birds of Paradise is poor in draft. I suppose that Green is just kind of blunt and un-fun. Spirit Wolf/Dungrove Elder with Spirit Mantel can be great though.
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 13 2011 23:45 GMT
#1053
On September 14 2011 08:27 slyboogie wrote:
Green's okay. I definitely think it's in the bottom two colors in terms of raw power - between Black and Green, imo. That being said, you're always happy with Cudgel Troll and the Spiders. Overrun makes you feel like a brute but it always works!

Also, I don't like the rares very much. Garruk's Horde is terrible, Elvish Archdruid is mega blech, Double Chant, Rites of Flourishing. Ick. Even Birds of Paradise is poor in draft. I suppose that Green is just kind of blunt and un-fun. Spirit Wolf/Dungrove Elder with Spirit Mantel can be great though.


Unfun is about right. The color isn't bad, it just doesn't feel very skill-rewarding. Play creatures, play Trollhide or Overrun, derp herp. Even the color's two removal spells, while not bad, are both very narrow so you don't have much of a choice of when to blow them. But to answer the original question: Most of the drafters would have ended up with vastly better decks if they weren't so averse to changing up their preconceptiions of color power levels. All combinations are pretty viable in M12 with only B/G being notably awful. The funniest example to me is when LSV forced mono-R off of a single Fiery Hellhound, passing multiple Pacifisms/Serra Angels.

But yeah, I too wish there were more good draft videos/streams. CFB is basically all I can tolerate, and unlike you guys I don't have the advantage of being able to watch my own VODs.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
last.resistance
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada543 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 01:03:33
September 14 2011 00:43 GMT
#1054
On September 14 2011 08:45 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 08:27 slyboogie wrote:
Green's okay. I definitely think it's in the bottom two colors in terms of raw power - between Black and Green, imo. That being said, you're always happy with Cudgel Troll and the Spiders. Overrun makes you feel like a brute but it always works!

Also, I don't like the rares very much. Garruk's Horde is terrible, Elvish Archdruid is mega blech, Double Chant, Rites of Flourishing. Ick. Even Birds of Paradise is poor in draft. I suppose that Green is just kind of blunt and un-fun. Spirit Wolf/Dungrove Elder with Spirit Mantel can be great though.


Unfun is about right. The color isn't bad, it just doesn't feel very skill-rewarding. Play creatures, play Trollhide or Overrun, derp herp. Even the color's two removal spells, while not bad, are both very narrow so you don't have much of a choice of when to blow them. But to answer the original question: Most of the drafters would have ended up with vastly better decks if they weren't so averse to changing up their preconceptiions of color power levels. All combinations are pretty viable in M12 with only B/G being notably awful. The funniest example to me is when LSV forced mono-R off of a single Fiery Hellhound, passing multiple Pacifisms/Serra Angels.

But yeah, I too wish there were more good draft videos/streams. CFB is basically all I can tolerate, and unlike you guys I don't have the advantage of being able to watch my own VODs.

Where can I watch your VODs? Are they commentated? I haven't really played since... Invasion block? The life of a poor university student caused me to move out of playing, but now that it's behind me I am looking to get back in. I've always been more interested in Limited than Constructed.

Sideboard thought: Innistrad looks like a fun set.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
September 14 2011 00:49 GMT
#1055
On September 14 2011 09:43 last.resistance wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 08:45 Cel.erity wrote:
On September 14 2011 08:27 slyboogie wrote:
Green's okay. I definitely think it's in the bottom two colors in terms of raw power - between Black and Green, imo. That being said, you're always happy with Cudgel Troll and the Spiders. Overrun makes you feel like a brute but it always works!

Also, I don't like the rares very much. Garruk's Horde is terrible, Elvish Archdruid is mega blech, Double Chant, Rites of Flourishing. Ick. Even Birds of Paradise is poor in draft. I suppose that Green is just kind of blunt and un-fun. Spirit Wolf/Dungrove Elder with Spirit Mantel can be great though.


Unfun is about right. The color isn't bad, it just doesn't feel very skill-rewarding. Play creatures, play Trollhide or Overrun, derp herp. Even the color's two removal spells, while not bad, are both very narrow so you don't have much of a choice of when to blow them. But to answer the original question: Most of the drafters would have ended up with vastly better decks if they weren't so averse to changing up their preconceptiions of color power levels. All combinations are pretty viable in M12 with only B/G being notably awful. The funniest example to me is when LSV forced mono-R off of a single Fiery Hellhound, passing multiple Pacifisms/Serra Angels.

But yeah, I too wish there were more good draft videos/streams. CFB is basically all I can tolerate, and unlike you guys I don't have the advantage of being able to watch my own VODs.

Where can I watch your VODs? Are they commentated? I haven't really played since... Invasion block? The life of a poor university student caused me to move out of playing, but now that it's behind me I am looking to get back in. I've always been more interested in Limited than Constructed.

Sideboard thought: Innstrad looks like a fun set.


Hmm, thought link was in the OP, but I guess that's the other thread. http://justin.tv/celeritygaming

Commentated of course, yes. Wouldn't recommend watching the last couple, I just lost a finals to a guy who couldn't speak english and was playing Lifelink and Fog in his deck. High quality Magic.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
DCLXVI
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States729 Posts
September 14 2011 00:58 GMT
#1056
It also seems as if green can only support one or possibly two drafters per table. There are only two bombs - overrun and stingerfling, and about 4 creatures you want in your deck - troll, wolf, dungrove, and spider. Even though the removal is better than usual, there are no other ways to win the game. The other colors will fly over or outrace you and have better removal. Stuff like act of treason and frost breath makes it very risky to rely on 4-6 drops to stabilize. The CFB drafters worry that someone else might be in green and assume they wont get enough playables, which is right more often than not.
I can already see the ending
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 01:35:21
September 14 2011 01:07 GMT
#1057
On September 14 2011 02:42 DCLXVI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 02:09 Kralic wrote:
On September 14 2011 01:41 DCLXVI wrote:
On September 14 2011 00:15 Kralic wrote:
On September 13 2011 18:35 Risen wrote:
Need to find someone who streams other than cel >.< he can't stream 24/7 and I get bored doing homework XD


You can watch Channel Fireball's vods. They are actually really good(well I found they were) and they give a lot of commentary on what they are doing, what card they chose and why they did. It is pretty much all MTGO and a huge chunk is drafts.

http://www.youtube.com/user/ChannelFireball?feature=chclk#p/p

They have many more drafts on their website using their own (somewhat shitty) video player, you can check those out too. Just remember not all of the drafters on that site are equal, some are great, but some aren't...


I think LSV's videos are the best to stick to(He doesn't mind changing up his style of deck). Conley and Tom's are okay since they have different tastes on what they want in a deck.

Also the SOM all stars #2 I think with John Finkle is cool.

Yeah, each drafter has his quirks. LSV - too greedy sometimes, Conely - occasionally messes around, TomM - awful IMO, Ochoa - for some reason stops thinking when recording videos, but near perfect written ones, PV - hard to understand sometimes and not always up to date on the format (maybe takes a while to upload the vids), Owen - solid drafter, cant remember any bad points now.


Glad it isn't just me. I finished watching some of TomM's recent drafts and was like... wtf is this guy doing, cmon.

On September 14 2011 08:45 Cel.erity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 08:27 slyboogie wrote:
Green's okay. I definitely think it's in the bottom two colors in terms of raw power - between Black and Green, imo. That being said, you're always happy with Cudgel Troll and the Spiders. Overrun makes you feel like a brute but it always works!

Also, I don't like the rares very much. Garruk's Horde is terrible, Elvish Archdruid is mega blech, Double Chant, Rites of Flourishing. Ick. Even Birds of Paradise is poor in draft. I suppose that Green is just kind of blunt and un-fun. Spirit Wolf/Dungrove Elder with Spirit Mantel can be great though.


Unfun is about right. The color isn't bad, it just doesn't feel very skill-rewarding. Play creatures, play Trollhide or Overrun, derp herp. Even the color's two removal spells, while not bad, are both very narrow so you don't have much of a choice of when to blow them. But to answer the original question: Most of the drafters would have ended up with vastly better decks if they weren't so averse to changing up their preconceptiions of color power levels. All combinations are pretty viable in M12 with only B/G being notably awful. The funniest example to me is when LSV forced mono-R off of a single Fiery Hellhound, passing multiple Pacifisms/Serra Angels.

But yeah, I too wish there were more good draft videos/streams. CFB is basically all I can tolerate, and unlike you guys I don't have the advantage of being able to watch my own VODs.


Riding troll to victory doesn't feel skill rewarding? Nawww

Have to agree with green being boring, but I also feel like a lot of the non-boring play from red/black comes from bloodlust. To me that's kind of artificial fun, idk... But more options are always nice and at least playing nonbl vs bl is a decision. The decisions for green are, will he counter this, and do I leave mana open for regen here.

Edit: How could I forget the hexproof bomb! Silly me....

Edit 2: I'm really excited for Innistrad.

Edit 3: Makes me happy to see such clear power creep too.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123068&d=1314495820
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 14 2011 05:13 GMT
#1058
On September 14 2011 10:07 Risen wrote:
Edit 3: Makes me happy to see such clear power creep too.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123068&d=1314495820


meh, unless vamps/werewolves/zombies are really important, I'd rather just have knight of meadowgrain.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-14 05:28:06
September 14 2011 05:25 GMT
#1059
On September 14 2011 14:13 DEN1ED wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2011 10:07 Risen wrote:
Edit 3: Makes me happy to see such clear power creep too.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=123068&d=1314495820


meh, unless vamps/werewolves/zombies are really important, I'd rather just have knight of meadowgrain.


I value vigilance over lifelink. Then add on three protections against almost every type in innistrad? Gg

Edit: type that isn't mirror

Edit 2: even if you value lifelink over vigilance, I think the three protections clearly tip the scales in this format.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
DEN1ED
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1087 Posts
September 14 2011 05:41 GMT
#1060
Lifelink is significantly better than vig. Vigilance is only relevant if they are threatening with attackers but lifelink is always relevant. And even if they are going to attack back, the lifelink would most likely equal what they are going to attack for anyways. Unless they have a 4/1 or some. It also scales better with honor of the pure/equipment. And sure, he will be great in draft/block where there are probably going to be lots of werewolves/zombies/vampires but I doubt it will be that significant in standard. Innistrad isn't a full tribal block like lorwyn so I highly doubt there will be full tribal decks that are competitive. If this was a card in lorwyn and had pro goblins/merfolk/elves, it would be insane.
Prev 1 51 52 53 54 55 665 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft703
RotterdaM 244
Rex 7
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 2808
actioN 1162
ggaemo 796
Stork 355
Barracks 315
PianO 123
Mong 76
Sharp 10
Noble 9
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm226
League of Legends
JimRising 576
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr72
Other Games
PiGStarcraft232
Sick147
Livibee138
ArmadaUGS69
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream3668
Other Games
gamesdonequick556
StarCraft: Brood War
Afreeca ASL 336
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH65
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP6
• Letter143
• Adnapsc2 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• lizZardDota2363
League of Legends
• Lourlo1173
Upcoming Events
GSL
7m
RotterdaM244
Yamato Cup
7h 7m
BSL Open Qualifier
11h 7m
BSL Open Qualifier
11h 7m
OSC
15h 7m
Replay Cast
16h 7m
Afreeca Starleague
1d 2h
Soma vs Jaedong
WardiTV Weekly
1d 3h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 8h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Leta vs Soulkey
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
Online Event
6 days
FEL
6 days
BSL: Ladder Tournament
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSA
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Calamity Invitational

Ongoing

ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Acropolis #5
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3

Upcoming

Acropolis #5 - GSB
Acropolis #5 - GSC
BSL Season 23
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Custodian Cup
Copium Cup
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.