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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
January 27 2013 07:48 GMT
#5661
On January 27 2013 15:17 Judicator wrote:
Oh forgot to mention an interesting story.

So I sat next to a new draft player at RTR FMN and he opened a Sphinxs Revelation and was about to pass it. Told him that it really wasnt a choice so ended up taking it over a Healer.

Later in the night I wanted to trade for it and he wanted 2 Grove of the Guardians and a bunch of commons and uncommons for it. I made sure that he knew the extreme difference in price and he just didn't care. So thats how I managed to flip 2 Groves and old draft junk into a Sphinxs. Also picked up a foil Vedalken Orerrey and regular Decree of Pain for 1 Silverblade. Pretty nifty trades.


Basically what Jingle said; you helped him out with the draft, was friendly and honest with him about the cards and their cost when you traded with him, and (I would suspect) he had fun with the draft and trading the entire night. Sure, if he sticks around to become a regular at your store he might lament the decision, but to him right now he's just trying to enjoy this new thing and you showcased how good/honest the community can be.
slyboogie
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3423 Posts
January 27 2013 07:50 GMT
#5662
I punted so many games ((((

Gruul makes you play wrong!
"We dug coal together." Boyd Crowder, Justified
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
January 27 2013 08:14 GMT
#5663
Boros twice ezez. 1st in the second event top 4 the first event.
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MiyaviTeddy
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada697 Posts
January 27 2013 09:08 GMT
#5664
On January 27 2013 14:34 CajunMan wrote:
I went Dimir for the prerelease and I must say it was TERRIBLE. There are some cool cards in the set and I can't wait to finish my mill deck with my stuff but man Dimir alone is just so slow and blood rush+evolve stuff is ridiculous and fast. 0-4 in matches had a few close but got nothing for my trouble


I wouldn't say Dimir is terrible. My prerelease Dimir deck was pretty strong (especially if I set myself up well). The problem was I couldn't pull out the removals I needed. They came too late (or didn't had enough). BUT I do admit Gruul has some monster stuff. I didn't play against a simic at all though :c

I don't know about you but milling someone and swing with a Abberation for 17 in one turn was pretty wicked.
Aiyeeeee
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
January 27 2013 10:16 GMT
#5665
On January 27 2013 14:34 CajunMan wrote:
I went Dimir for the prerelease and I must say it was TERRIBLE. There are some cool cards in the set and I can't wait to finish my mill deck with my stuff but man Dimir alone is just so slow and blood rush+evolve stuff is ridiculous and fast. 0-4 in matches had a few close but got nothing for my trouble


I don't think it was terrible at all. I struggled vs gruul though, and boros just rolled me over, so if you got to play vs those decks a lot, I could see why you'd think that. I didn't have particularly great pulls though, not bad by any means, but not that bomby either.

Decklist:

+ Show Spoiler +

1 Consuming Aberration
1 Immortal Servitude
1 Sepulchral Primordial
1 Soul Ransom
1 Coerced Confession
1 Mindeye Drake
1 Balustrade Spy
2 Deathcult Rogue
2 Sage's Row Denizen
2 Mortus Strider
1 Corpe Blockade
1 Hands of Binding
1 Duskmantle Guildmage
1 Metropolis Sprite
1 Shadow Alley Denizen
1 Rapid Hybridization
2 Beckon Apparition
2 Death's Approach
1 Watery Grave
1 Guildgate

And basic lands

Soul Ransom never did anything for me, because when I drew it I was always in a dying situation, and it never helped me turn that around. The primordial won me one game when I milled an aurelia, then it was just game when I took that, never did much apart from that though. The Consuming Aberration is probably the best card in the deck though, it didn't do shit vs boros, and was very hit/miss vs gruul, because I had a hard time milling much of anything before I was dead. It absolutely wrecked another dimir player though, it was already pretty big, at 15/15, then it milled 12 cards before it hit a land, both of us just sat there laughing
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
January 27 2013 10:56 GMT
#5666

thanks for giving me some confidence in my choice of dimir for tomorrow. I've felt a bit hesitant about it since there's so much negative output online but screw them time to go for it.


went 3-0-1 intentional draw at prerelease with dimir. pretty fun, but i only got to play one dimir card LOL (the promo). was a pretty good time.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 11:14:25
January 27 2013 11:13 GMT
#5667
On January 27 2013 14:37 JingleHell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2013 14:35 deth2munkies wrote:
On January 27 2013 14:34 CajunMan wrote:
I went Dimir for the prerelease and I must say it was TERRIBLE. There are some cool cards in the set and I can't wait to finish my mill deck with my stuff but man Dimir alone is just so slow and blood rush+evolve stuff is ridiculous and fast. 0-4 in matches had a few close but got nothing for my trouble


Dimir has the best promo and the worst everything else.


Eh, looking at it, it has some serious potential for at least local level competition in constructed play. I wouldn't want to try and draft that though.


I dunno, the Dimir promo looks like the worst of the 5 (in constructed), except for maybe the Boros one. As for limited, it's definitely a first-pick bomb in draft and splashable bomb in sealed.

My friend who had done a lot of practice gatecrash drafts online was saying that Boros and Gruul are the way to go for draft.
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
junseung
Profile Joined September 2012
Norway4 Posts
January 27 2013 12:31 GMT
#5668
My pre-release story:
Never been to a pre-release before, but drafted now and then. I was really looking forward to it.
I chose to go the 2nd day cause I thought it'd be less crowded and less pressure. Anyway I show up 40 min before the event was supposed to start, and apparently it was full. There were a lot of regular players who were angry and talking about boycotting the venue, for FNM I suppose. They said there were only 39 spots. Anyway there was no online information posted by the venue so I assumed I'd be fine, maybe not get the guild I wanted. Live and learn I suppose.
Kimchi
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
January 27 2013 13:54 GMT
#5669
On January 27 2013 21:31 junseung wrote:
My pre-release story:
Never been to a pre-release before, but drafted now and then. I was really looking forward to it.
I chose to go the 2nd day cause I thought it'd be less crowded and less pressure. Anyway I show up 40 min before the event was supposed to start, and apparently it was full. There were a lot of regular players who were angry and talking about boycotting the venue, for FNM I suppose. They said there were only 39 spots. Anyway there was no online information posted by the venue so I assumed I'd be fine, maybe not get the guild I wanted. Live and learn I suppose.


Wow, that sucks The game store I used to go to let you register ahead of time for the Prerelease. You easily could have missed out on that, but I'm guessing based on the angry regulars that this wasn't offered, since otherwise they surely would have managed to sign up.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
cLAN.Anax
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
January 27 2013 14:50 GMT
#5670
Judi, the Mercilessly Shrewd Dealer in Trades.

Praying there's still an event at my local store today. Still gonna go Boros. If anything happens, I'll share my story too.
┬─┬___(ツ)_/¯ 彡┻━┻ I am the 4%. "I cant believe i saw ANAL backwards before i saw the word LAN." - Capped
Audemed
Profile Joined November 2010
United States893 Posts
January 27 2013 19:45 GMT
#5671
Heading back to my local store to play again today, gonna boros again since those are my colors anyway. Went 3-1 opening night, then dropped 2 more to go 3-3 and lose my spot in the money Definitely learned some lessons though, hoping to place far better this time.
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -George Orwell
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 27 2013 23:21 GMT
#5672
Dear fellow Esper players,

In an obvious control mirror, Consuming Aberration is not a mainboard win con, Ghost Council is not a mainboard win con.
Thank you for tapping out so I can resolve cards that you have 0 or next to 0 interaction potential like a Sorin, a Jace, or a lovely Tamiyo. They're inevitably going to tick up to their ultimates because you have 0 interactivity if any of the aforementioned cards die and rest assuredly, they will die. Stop throwing the game.

Thank you
Get it by your hands...
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
January 27 2013 23:28 GMT
#5673
On January 28 2013 08:21 Judicator wrote:
Dear fellow Esper players,

In an obvious control mirror, Consuming Aberration is not a mainboard win con, Ghost Council is not a mainboard win con.
Thank you for tapping out so I can resolve cards that you have 0 or next to 0 interaction potential like a Sorin, a Jace, or a lovely Tamiyo. They're inevitably going to tick up to their ultimates because you have 0 interactivity if any of the aforementioned cards die and rest assuredly, they will die. Stop throwing the game.

Thank you


Do you seriously not play O-ring?
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-27 23:35:55
January 27 2013 23:35 GMT
#5674
On January 28 2013 08:28 deth2munkies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2013 08:21 Judicator wrote:
Dear fellow Esper players,

In an obvious control mirror, Consuming Aberration is not a mainboard win con, Ghost Council is not a mainboard win con.
Thank you for tapping out so I can resolve cards that you have 0 or next to 0 interaction potential like a Sorin, a Jace, or a lovely Tamiyo. They're inevitably going to tick up to their ultimates because you have 0 interactivity if any of the aforementioned cards die and rest assuredly, they will die. Stop throwing the game.

Thank you


Do you seriously not play O-ring?


O-ring/Sphere is a terrible answer to any on curve PWs. For most decks it's a one-of if that.

If their line is turn 5/6 any thing, then lose it to an instant spell, then the following turn have to tap out again or close to tap out for a O-ring/Sphere. That's some brave line to take to re-stabilize in a control match-up. If jace got an activation, then its even more miserable, if sorin made a token, that's a legitimate clock, and if tamiyo tapped a land, well shit, you better hope I don't have a 3rd walker or a Sphinx's Rev.

This line literally only makes sense if you know that you'll be drawing gas and the opponent is drawing shit. Highly unlikely situation.

Edit: Or that you Duressed them the turn before.
Get it by your hands...
EMIYA
Profile Joined March 2011
United States433 Posts
January 28 2013 00:05 GMT
#5675
is there a deck that man handles izzet post? that deck is so damn hard to beat as delver.
Draconicfire
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2562 Posts
January 28 2013 00:33 GMT
#5676
Did Dimir yesterday. Got a bunch of cards I wanted for a constructed deck, but I didn't get enough support creatures or speed to take out the other guys. Ended up doing pretty bad bleh.
@Drayxs | Drayxs.221 | Drayxs#1802
Salivanth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 01:21:06
January 28 2013 01:19 GMT
#5677
On January 28 2013 08:21 Judicator wrote:
Dear fellow Esper players,

In an obvious control mirror, Consuming Aberration is not a mainboard win con, Ghost Council is not a mainboard win con.
Thank you for tapping out so I can resolve cards that you have 0 or next to 0 interaction potential like a Sorin, a Jace, or a lovely Tamiyo. They're inevitably going to tick up to their ultimates because you have 0 interactivity if any of the aforementioned cards die and rest assuredly, they will die. Stop throwing the game.

Thank you


...What. Okay, I can understand the idea behind playing something like Ghost Council or Consuming Aberration in the main deck. I don't particularly like it, but I understand it. But why the FUCK would you tap out for it in a control mirror!? Seriously! I mean...it's not like you're in a hurry. There's absolutely no reason to play it on Turn 5 instead of Turn 7-8 with counter backup.

Why don't I get to play against these people? :/

And what am I missing with Oblivion Ring? I don't understand why any Esper player would ever play O-Ring. Looking at O-Ring and Sphere, it seems that Detention Sphere is simply strictly better in virtually every scenario imaginable. The only time I'd ever want O-Ring over Sphere is in a control mirror where I wanted to exile an opposing Sphere in order to get my card back, but even then I'd rather have Sphere in the actual matchup, since it's far more likely I need to exile multiple tokens at once than that I need to exile an opposing Sphere.
<@Wikt> so you are one of those nega-fans <@Wikt> that hates the company that makes a game and everything they stand for <@Wikt> but still plays the game <@Wikt> (like roughly 30% of blizzard's player base, maybe much more...)
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-28 02:05:06
January 28 2013 02:02 GMT
#5678
Hmm, anyone with more experience got any thoughts about a Simic/Golgari bastardization, to double up Scavenge and Evolve with each other?

Especially with say, Corpsejack Menace and Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord? Oh, and Prime Speaker Zegana, of course.

Then, Bioshift when they declare blockers.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
January 28 2013 02:49 GMT
#5679
Too cute when you are in format of Supreme Verdicts.
Get it by your hands...
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
January 28 2013 02:51 GMT
#5680
On January 28 2013 11:49 Judicator wrote:
Too cute when you are in format of Supreme Verdicts.


Does that cut through, say, an Evos Isle?
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