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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
March 30 2013 12:37 GMT
#581
Rofl you guys.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 14:03:23
March 30 2013 14:01 GMT
#582
Meet my new desktop (2 screens with different resolutions, they actually fit perfectly):

&#91;image loading&#93;
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deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 30 2013 14:10 GMT
#583
Power gamed it in 8 hours on hard.

Fuck the ghost lady.

Everything else was pretty good.
Hadley88
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany267 Posts
March 30 2013 14:44 GMT
#584
On March 30 2013 23:10 deth2munkies wrote:
Power gamed it in 8 hours on hard.

Fuck the ghost lady.

Everything else was pretty good.


Yep, if you died more than 2-3 times it was already over because she rezzed like 20 Corpses. First time I was like "How is this supposed to work?!"
deth2munkies
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4051 Posts
March 30 2013 14:49 GMT
#585
On March 30 2013 23:44 Hadley88 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 23:10 deth2munkies wrote:
Power gamed it in 8 hours on hard.

Fuck the ghost lady.

Everything else was pretty good.


Yep, if you died more than 2-3 times it was already over because she rezzed like 20 Corpses. First time I was like "How is this supposed to work?!"


The first time, I found an area where the corpse AI glitched and didn't attack me, the ghost would always come 1 foot away from a corner to LoS her attack, but I had already exhausted all of the ammo in the area, so I just beat her down with the skyhook. It took like 10 minutes.

The last time it took 15 minutes of taking like 1-2 shots then hiding and killing the corpses that actually walked far enough to get past the cover of the giant statue.
SnoWhiTe
Profile Joined January 2011
France121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 14:52:19
March 30 2013 14:51 GMT
#586
On March 30 2013 23:01 Firebolt145 wrote:
Meet my new desktop (2 screens with different resolutions, they actually fit perfectly):

[image loading]


Haha got the same as you but for now it's more :

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:40:35
March 30 2013 15:42 GMT
#587
On March 30 2013 19:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 19:55 Chillax wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:52 MilesTeg wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:46 Chillax wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:41 MilesTeg wrote:
DO NOT CLICK IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE GAME

+ Show Spoiler +
The thing I still don't understand is how you get to actually experience Booker getting killed by the Elizabeths. Your Booker is not part of this reality, he refused the baptism and didn't get to that point in time. In my understanding the Booker that gets killed at the end should be seen at the 3rd person, like the ones you see in the "infinite lightouses" scene.

The more I think about the ending, the less it makes sense actually... Are you actually the Booker that refused the baptism? If not, why would it even matter if you died? If yes, why would you get to experience Comstock's baptism?



+ Show Spoiler +
The Booker that gets drown hasn't made the Comstock choice yet, by killing him there before the choice is made you erase the Comstock timeline's but also the timelines where he gives his daughter away. That's why all the Elizabeth's disappear at the end, they never existed.


+ Show Spoiler +

Then what of the Booker that wakes up after the credits. My understanding was that only "Comstock versions of Booker" died at that point. Otherwise Anna wouldn't even be born, every single Booker dies after the Wounded Knee, and the last scene seems impossible.

+ Show Spoiler +

That's quite simple actually, your assuming every Booker went to be baptized. Some never even went there or made the choice. The guy in the credits could have easily been from such a timeline. Hell his wife might even have been alive in that reality. Infinite possibility's remember.

+ Show Spoiler +
The point is that they isolated the root of the split to the moment where Booker accepts or declines the baptism. Elizabeth shows you the baptism scene twice, allowing you to 'relive' it; the first time, you reject the baptism - this is Booker's timeline, so it proceeds as normal. The second time, you are 'merged' into Comstock's Booker, and at the moment just before you accept the baptism, Elizabeth smothers you. This prevents the continuation of Comstock's timeline, thus allowing the Booker timeline to proceed normally (the post-credits scene). The reason you are so surprised to hear Emma's cry is because you always keep your memories from other world lives (nosebleeds, etc).


+ Show Spoiler +
I just re-watched the after-credits scene on youtube again and I can't hear Anna crying at all. There's just a lullaby/music box playing and Booker says "Anna, is that you" but the screen fades away before we see if there is actually anything in the cradle. So for all we know, this could be some sort of hallucination and the Black/White world is actually the only REAL timeline -- therefore implying that Booker is in some sort of insane/ traumatic state and locked up in his room/dreaming for the whole game.
"See you space cowboy"
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8247 Posts
March 30 2013 16:23 GMT
#588
On March 30 2013 23:01 Firebolt145 wrote:
Meet my new desktop (2 screens with different resolutions, they actually fit perfectly):

[image loading]


Oh man. Do you have those pictures without the desktop icons on them?
whiteguycash
Profile Joined April 2010
United States476 Posts
March 30 2013 17:15 GMT
#589
On March 30 2013 19:53 MilesTeg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 19:45 PrinceXizor wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:41 MilesTeg wrote:
DO NOT CLICK IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE GAME

+ Show Spoiler +
The thing I still don't understand is how you get to actually experience Booker getting killed by the Elizabeths. Your Booker is not part of this reality, he refused the baptism and didn't get to that point in time. In my understanding the Booker that gets killed at the end should be seen at the 3rd person, like the ones you see in the "infinite lightouses" scene.

The more I think about the ending, the less it makes sense actually... Are you actually the Booker that refused the baptism? If not, why would it even matter if you died? If yes, why would you get to experience Comstock's baptism?


+ Show Spoiler +
Nosebleeds. When one booker gets killed they all remember his life and experiences. by killing Dewitt at the root of all the universes all dewitts will feel the way Booker does.


+ Show Spoiler +
Hmm so what happens in that scene is that Booker remembers a death that didn't really happen to him? Am I getting this right?



+ Show Spoiler +
The answer is quite simple, you are a version of booker that wasn't at wounded knee
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 18:04:29
March 30 2013 17:57 GMT
#590
On March 31 2013 01:23 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 23:01 Firebolt145 wrote:
Meet my new desktop (2 screens with different resolutions, they actually fit perfectly):

&#91;image loading&#93;


Oh man. Do you have those pictures without the desktop icons on them?

http://i.imgur.com/N0RMb32.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U5UISVE.jpg

Credits to reddit people ^_^
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
March 30 2013 18:01 GMT
#591
On March 31 2013 00:42 Erik.TheRed wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2013 19:59 Firebolt145 wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:55 Chillax wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:52 MilesTeg wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:46 Chillax wrote:
On March 30 2013 19:41 MilesTeg wrote:
DO NOT CLICK IF YOU HAVEN'T FINISHED THE GAME

+ Show Spoiler +
The thing I still don't understand is how you get to actually experience Booker getting killed by the Elizabeths. Your Booker is not part of this reality, he refused the baptism and didn't get to that point in time. In my understanding the Booker that gets killed at the end should be seen at the 3rd person, like the ones you see in the "infinite lightouses" scene.

The more I think about the ending, the less it makes sense actually... Are you actually the Booker that refused the baptism? If not, why would it even matter if you died? If yes, why would you get to experience Comstock's baptism?



+ Show Spoiler +
The Booker that gets drown hasn't made the Comstock choice yet, by killing him there before the choice is made you erase the Comstock timeline's but also the timelines where he gives his daughter away. That's why all the Elizabeth's disappear at the end, they never existed.


+ Show Spoiler +

Then what of the Booker that wakes up after the credits. My understanding was that only "Comstock versions of Booker" died at that point. Otherwise Anna wouldn't even be born, every single Booker dies after the Wounded Knee, and the last scene seems impossible.

+ Show Spoiler +

That's quite simple actually, your assuming every Booker went to be baptized. Some never even went there or made the choice. The guy in the credits could have easily been from such a timeline. Hell his wife might even have been alive in that reality. Infinite possibility's remember.

+ Show Spoiler +
The point is that they isolated the root of the split to the moment where Booker accepts or declines the baptism. Elizabeth shows you the baptism scene twice, allowing you to 'relive' it; the first time, you reject the baptism - this is Booker's timeline, so it proceeds as normal. The second time, you are 'merged' into Comstock's Booker, and at the moment just before you accept the baptism, Elizabeth smothers you. This prevents the continuation of Comstock's timeline, thus allowing the Booker timeline to proceed normally (the post-credits scene). The reason you are so surprised to hear Emma's cry is because you always keep your memories from other world lives (nosebleeds, etc).


+ Show Spoiler +
I just re-watched the after-credits scene on youtube again and I can't hear Emma crying at all. There's just a lullaby/music box playing and Booker says "Anna, is that you" but the screen fades away before we see if there is actually anything in the cradle. So for all we know, this could be some sort of hallucination and the Black/White world is actually the only REAL timeline -- therefore implying that Booker is in some sort of insane/ traumatic state and locked up in his room/dreaming for the whole game.

+ Show Spoiler +
I believe we are meant to assume that it is Anna playing with the music box. While strictly speaking it is possible that it was all a dream, it would be really boring to assume the whole was just one helluva nightmare.
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Dracolich70
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark3820 Posts
March 30 2013 18:03 GMT
#592
Nice pictures, Firebolt, and Snowhite.
LiangHao
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
March 30 2013 18:19 GMT
#593
On March 30 2013 23:01 Firebolt145 wrote:
Meet my new desktop (2 screens with different resolutions, they actually fit perfectly):

[image loading]


Need a wallpaper of the moon when you first get to this. I stopped and stared for a few minutes
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-30 19:04:07
March 30 2013 19:03 GMT
#594
+ Show Spoiler +
Well, even after all the stuff resolved, there's still a paradox inbound. It's completely obvious that the Letuces aren't actual twins, but different universe versions of one person (and they are fascinated by their tiny differences). As long as they stay together, the paradox isn't completely resolved, and there's still room for more story to be told.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
March 30 2013 19:06 GMT
#595
On March 31 2013 04:03 BluzMan wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Well, even after all the stuff resolved, there's still a paradox inbound. It's completely obvious that the Letuces aren't actual twins, but different universe versions of one person (and they are fascinated by their tiny differences). As long as they stay together, the paradox isn't completely resolved, and there's still room for more story to be told.

+ Show Spoiler +
Not sure I understand. There's no mention of them staying together after the credits, so while it's entirely plausible that they exist somewhere, it's not insinuated by the game.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34502 Posts
March 30 2013 20:28 GMT
#596
Another theory that was just posted on reddit regarding Lady Comstock:

+ Show Spoiler +
Lady Comstock's first name is shown here to start with A. Booker named Anna/Elizabeth after his wife died in childbirth. It could well be that both Booker and Comstock married the same woman in their respective worlds. Constants and variables, that thing. It would explain the bond between Elizabeth and Lady Comstock, since they would be related but not quite.
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adwodon
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom592 Posts
March 30 2013 20:37 GMT
#597
Ok so I finished the game, the story seemed decent enough but one thing has completely flown over my head and I wander if anyone has an answer:

+ Show Spoiler +
Was it explained at any point why Commstock / Booker became a racist, build a massive floating city and decided to steal his own daughter? I get that he was sterile, but that seems like a pretty bold leap.

Even then does anything explain why he's totally different to Booker or this whole time was I just playing a white supremacist with a passion for megalomania?

Feels kind of like they decided on how the story would end but sort of glossed over how it actually began (beyond the whole baptism thing) other than that it was a pretty decent story but personally I was more interested in the Lutese 'twins' than Elizabeth or Commstock / Booker and the whole thing with Fitzroy / Fink etc felt glossed over as well, really the whole racism / uprising thing just felt like an excuse to have choas towards the end rather than being an integral part of the story.


*totally almost put that in quotes instead of spoilers trolololol*
Chillax
Profile Joined March 2011
England585 Posts
March 30 2013 21:09 GMT
#598
+ Show Spoiler +
He found religion, that's probably the best way I can put it.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
March 30 2013 21:28 GMT
#599
Great game. The gameplay i think has it's faults (probably just because FPS isn't my preference) but this game bar none has the greatest art and style I've ever seen.
Rokevo
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1033 Posts
March 30 2013 21:31 GMT
#600
Great game, going into it I wasnt expecting it to be as good as 1&2, Columbus just didn't sound as cool as Rapture. But I'm very happy I was wrong. The city and the atmosphere are amazing, plus the story is more complex and interesting than the stories of its predecessors
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