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Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
July 15 2010 06:18 GMT
#61
Henry completes move to the MLS' NY RedBulls. Maybe I'll check out a little MLS this summer :o
uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
July 15 2010 09:17 GMT
#62
On July 15 2010 15:18 Klogon wrote:
Henry completes move to the MLS' NY RedBulls. Maybe I'll check out a little MLS this summer :o


i like how he picked one of the biggest areas of irish immigrants in the US

wouldn't be surprised if he got booed at their own home games lmao D:
hyomin godtier
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada367 Posts
July 15 2010 17:45 GMT
#63
@MooCow: "We aren't linked with Ribery, Dzeko nor Ibra. Chelsea are linked strongly with Aguero, Lukaku, Ancelotti supposedly wants to try Balotelli and a few others who isn't strongly linked with Chelsea"

ya about that I used http://www.footballtransferleague.co.uk/football_club.aspx?football_club=Chelsea as my source lol, probably not the most credible place, so ill take ur word for it.

Heres the rest of the top 10 power rankings

6. Arsenal FC
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The Gunners ended the year losing 3 out of their last 5 games and finished 3rd in the EPL. In the champions league they ran into powerhouse Barcelona and hats off to the boys for staying true to their colors and playing attacking football, in the end they were simply out gunned in the two leg affair losing 6-3 on aggregate. People need to realize though that out of all the big clubs in Europe last season, Arsenal was the most injury plagued and that 2nd leg vs. Barca was played with their two best scoring threats sidelined. Enough about last year though this upcoming season looked promising until that Fabregas’ branding incident at the Spain victory parade, he has been hammered in the press for it but it wasn’t his fault and really no matter how he reacted he would have received some criticism but I would have liked to see him take that shit off and stomp on it but whatever all will be forgiven if Cesc is still in our colors this season. He is the key to our entire season I believe, if he’s healthy then id take our chances against any of those teams above but without him I think it will be a long season. The good news is we are still a very young team and as always Wenger has us playing that quick short passing football that the Gunners have become famous for. Now worst case scenario is we do lose Fabregas the man that pulls all the strings in midfield, it would certainly end any title hopes but Mr. Wenger is in the running for acquiring the talents of young Mesmul Ozil. The kid showcased his talents on the world’s biggest stage and was one of the standout players of the tournament and would be welcomed with open arms at the Emirates. The last thing id like to address is the terrible showing Van Persie had at the world cup, which has a lot of people concerned but I think people are forgetting that he came back from a 5 month layoff, you can’t recapture your form in such a short time. I think anyone who still has any doubts just needs to be reminded of what a talent he is, so just go ahead and YouTube some Van Persie videos and put those to rest
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7. Bayern Munchen
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I think it’s fair to say that they over achieved in Europe last season, domestically they will always be the favourites, but they have had trouble attracting big names in the past to come play for a great team who is playing in a league that just doesn’t have the same money and pull as the big three. Anyone who saw them play last season saw how great they are going forward with two of the most dangerous wingers in the world in Ribery and Robben they were able to hurt teams from both sides and down the middle. Who knows how that final plays out with Ribery in the line-up but we will never find out and we may not get to see it this season either, as the rumours about him leaving are as loud as ever. Even if he does go the likes of Muller, Schweinsteigger and Lahm are all coming of terrific showings at the world cup with the 20 year old Muller winning not only the young player of the tournament award but the Golden Boot as well. After such a spectacular performance its no surprise that the big clubs are knocking on the door but people seem to forget that German born players rarely take their talents outside the country. Ballack was an exception but most of them love it at Bayern and they grow up dreaming to play at Bayern and not clubs like Real Madrid, so why I believe that they probably will lose Ribery they are going to keep the rest of their strong players and once again be a force in Europe.

8. Manchester City
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For now I have them here just because the owner whose name is so long that I will just refer to him as the Sheik is looking to bring in more big names. The problem is who wants to go play at Man City? you would think anyone if the price is right, but remember last year Kaka refused to join them even though he was offered more money than at Madrid. Not only that, but guys like Tevez are rumoured to want out as well. So it all depends on how this transfer window plays out guys like Higuain, David Silva, Torres, Dzeko and Ibrahimovic could find the lure of cash to hard to resist. I think the most important decision Man City has to make involves Robinho who is currently on loan at Santos. He is easily amongst the top 5 most talented players in the world he was picked by Pele as his successor and he has shown his brilliance both at Madrid and for his country Brazil. If you watched Brazil at this world cup you saw just how quick and gifted of a player he is and he was good at Man City the first season he came over. However with the injuries he eventually fell out of favour with his coach Mancini. So now the question is will they be able to reconcile or will they look to cash in with him on the open market. Everyone agrees that they are a better team with him but if they don’t want him and he doesn’t want to be there, then stop wasting our time and send him to another big club in Europe because I don’t want to be deprived watching one of the best footballers in the world because he’s playing in some 2nd class league.

9. AS Roma
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The face of football for the Giallorossi for the past decade has been Francesco Totti joining the club at the age of 16 he even played in their youth system meaning Roma Football is all he has known his whole life, now 33 its safe to say that the best years are behind him. After being ignored by the Italian national team following the 2006 world cup Totti decided to retire from international play in 2007 and with Roma having a difficult time in the European competitions his global recognition has suffered. He no longer is the impact player he once was and that’s mainly due to the loss in speed but his technique and craftiness is second to none and he still was tied for the team lead in goals last season with 14. Vucinic the man he was tied with has moved on to Man City leaving a big void up front. Adriano is currently on the books of Roma, will he be able to recapture the form he once had at Inter? or will Roma have to look somewhere else for a replacement, who they get or the kind of Adriano that shows up will greatly determine just how much of a threat they are this season.

10. AC Milan
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Looking back at the last decade it’s hard to say who the best team in Europe was but a case can be made that it was Milan. Barca, Man U and Milan have all won the coveted European crown twice in that span but it was the Rossoneri who were closest to doing it three times blowing a 3-0 lead in the 2nd half to eventually lose on penalties to Liverpool. In the past couple of years they have been rebuilding well more like reloading for the future because this is one of the world’s biggest clubs and they can bring in young talent in a hurry. Losing Kaka might have been the trigger but the retirement of Maldini signifies that its the start of a new era. The likes of Nesta, Gattuso, Pirlo, Inzaghi and Seedorf who were all central figures in winning those titles are now nearing the latter stages of their career. The future is bright though and the one shining brightest is Alexander Pato, he may not be the biggest or strongest forward but by god he’s the quickest. Overlooked by Dunga for the 2010 world cup he will be a beast in Brazil 2014. Rumours are that fellow country man Robinho is set to make the move from Man City, if this does happen and if we care to remember that the once greatest footballer in the world Ronaldinho is still on the team as well, then Milan should have plenty of firepower and flare going forward. So much for Italy being the no fun league.



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funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9374 Posts
July 15 2010 18:08 GMT
#64
I hope Fabregas returns to his true home and we continue to pwn the rest of the world.


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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 15 2010 18:59 GMT
#65
On July 16 2010 02:45 ArsenalGunners wrote:
9. AS Roma
+ Show Spoiler +
The face of football for the Giallorossi for the past decade has been Francesco Totti joining the club at the age of 16 he even played in their youth system meaning Roma Football is all he has known his whole life, now 33 its safe to say that the best years are behind him. After being ignored by the Italian national team following the 2006 world cup Totti decided to retire from international play in 2007 and with Roma having a difficult time in the European competitions his global recognition has suffered. He no longer is the impact player he once was and that’s mainly due to the loss in speed but his technique and craftiness is second to none and he still was tied for the team lead in goals last season with 14. Vucinic the man he was tied with has moved on to Man City leaving a big void up front. Adriano is currently on the books of Roma, will he be able to recapture the form he once had at Inter? or will Roma have to look somewhere else for a replacement, who they get or the kind of Adriano that shows up will greatly determine just how much of a threat they are this season.


Vucinic in still in Roma, yo. He loves Roma, and we love him; he's not leaving anytime soon. Grande Vucinic!

We got more points in Serie A than Inter after Ranieri took over, and Totti has been magnificent whenever he hasn't been injured; I think this could end up being a brilliant season for Roma!
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 15 2010 19:33 GMT
#66
Forza Roma!!
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
July 15 2010 20:10 GMT
#67
On July 16 2010 04:33 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Forza Roma!!

That's the spirit! :D
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 21:38:37
July 15 2010 20:22 GMT
#68
Ahh I am glad for WC and Euro years, they make the off season that much shorter.

Premiere League:
Team: Arsenal
Early predictions for top 4: 1st) Man. United 2nd) Chelsea 3rd) Man. City 4th) Arsenal.

Serie A:
Team: Roma
Early predictions for top3: 1st) Roma 2nd) AC Milan 3rd) Inter Milan

la liga:
Team: Athletico Madrid
Early predictions top4: 1st) Barcelona 2nd) Real Madrid 3rd) Valencia 4th) Athletico Madrid

Champion's League:
Team: Arsenal
Early predictions top 4: 1st) Arsenal 2nd) Barcelona 3rd) Man. United 4th)Roma

I am a bigger fan of EPL than the other leagues. If they can stay healthy they will be a good CL team. Arsenal needs to get rid of Wenger, which most likely won't happen any time soon.
Brood War forever!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
July 15 2010 20:32 GMT
#69
We (Manchester United) won't be winning anything other than the Carling Cup as long as there's no money.
Mascherano
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Argentina1726 Posts
July 15 2010 20:46 GMT
#70
epl predictions:
1st- chelsea
2nd/3rd- Manchester United/ Manchester City
4th- Arsenal
Liverpool to be relegated.

la liga:
1st- barca
2nd- r. madrid
3rd - below r.madrid by atleast 20 points, Sevilla
4th- valencia

Bundesliga
Impossible to predict, hopefully Werder Bremen 1st and Bayern Munich 2nd

Champions League:
Barca to win it all, Real Madrid to crash out in the Ro16.
Bisu
MooCow
Profile Joined September 2008
1434 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-15 21:09:18
July 15 2010 20:50 GMT
#71
@AGooners this rank is how you think the teams are going to be doing this season right?

I think Arsenal has a huge problem with depth of their squad atm. Compared to the season where you won stuff you guys had older players that when injured the young talented players could slot into but when you have young players filling in for other young players then players like RVP and Fabregas becomes so important.

The news you are getting from that website about transfers seems really poor. The reason Ribery won't leave is because he signed a new 5 year contract a few months ago.

Man City bought Silva a few weeks ago already. A Ballon d'Or winner probably won't go for money because he would already be earning loads already but they can pick up everyone else. Silva was saying he wanted CL football but still had no problem going to Man City. I think Man City are going to at minimum get 3rd. They already signed like 2-3 bigish names and probably going to continue. I'm scared of em.

@Kralic Arsenal wining the CL atm would be pretty surprising imo. I hate Wenger but i'm not an Arsenal fan but I know that in a few years time you guys are going to have a lot of money.
Making history not reliving it.
Kralic
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2628 Posts
July 15 2010 21:49 GMT
#72
On July 16 2010 05:50 MooCow wrote:
@AGooners this rank is how you think the teams are going to be doing this season right?

I think Arsenal has a huge problem with depth of their squad atm. Compared to the season where you won stuff you guys had older players that when injured the young talented players could slot into but when you have young players filling in for other young players then players like RVP and Fabregas becomes so important.

@Kralic Arsenal wining the CL atm would be pretty surprising imo. I hate Wenger but i'm not an Arsenal fan but I know that in a few years time you guys are going to have a lot of money.


I can always hope, their current team is still the same core that got to the semi's in 09, if they stay 100% healthy for the CL it wouldn't be a huge stretch for it. They have seemed more of a knock out team then a drag it out all season team the past few years. If they sell Fabregas to Barca, they will not go to the Final in CL for sure. Here is to the hope that they keep Fabregas and stay healthy!

Brood War forever!
Dahlia...
Profile Joined September 2005
United States409 Posts
July 15 2010 21:52 GMT
#73
Nobody giving Spurs some love?

I think they were better than Arsenal and Man City as a whole last season.

I hope they can at least make it into groups stages this Champions League.
esperanto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany357 Posts
July 15 2010 23:03 GMT
#74
I have to admit I only follow bundesliga, champions-league and euro-league, so I have no idea how the teams are doing in their countrys leagues, but I wouldnt count ManU or Arsenal in the top4 for next seasons champions-league, from last years cl I just havent seen any kind of progress or big concept (like on inter milan or bayern munich).
dont know anything about new inter milan coach (most of the credit from last years succes should go to jose mourinho), so its hard to predict how they will do this season, on the other hand real madrid (with him) will maybe have some succes again.

For german teams it seems like they didnt buy any big players this season, still munich has a solid team (robben, van bommel, lahm, schweinsteiger, müller, ribery, demichelis) that is able to compete with all the top teams in europe.

So my top4 prediction for cl:
1 - Real Madrid
2 - Barca
3 - Bayern Munich
4 - Inter Milan
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
July 16 2010 03:07 GMT
#75
Bayern not in the top5 clubs in the world shows me that this is a joke ranking.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51451 Posts
July 16 2010 03:31 GMT
#76
as much as i love lahm, i don't think he'll be at manchester united anytime soon ;d
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Tigi
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany472 Posts
July 16 2010 11:53 GMT
#77
lol 1.FC Köln not 1st in ranking shows me that this is a joke ranking. -.-
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Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
July 16 2010 19:59 GMT
#78
On July 16 2010 12:07 SuperArc wrote:
Bayern not in the top5 clubs in the world shows me that this is a joke ranking.

R. Madrid
Barce
Man U
Chelsea
Inter

Which of those teams is obviously worse than Bayern?
There's an argument to be made for Bayern but it's not clear cut.
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uberMatt
Profile Joined May 2004
Canada659 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 06:22:07
July 17 2010 06:09 GMT
#79
On July 17 2010 04:59 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2010 12:07 SuperArc wrote:
Bayern not in the top5 clubs in the world shows me that this is a joke ranking.

R. Madrid
Barce
Man U
Chelsea
Inter

Which of those teams is obviously worse than Bayern?
There's an argument to be made for Bayern but it's not clear cut.


i wouldn't rank real madrid higher than bayern atm, i mean they have mourinho and they obviously have an amazing lineup, but they just dont win in europe. if you look at the teams that they have gone out into the ro16, arsenal in 2005 is the only one who went onto the finals, it's not like they've been getting especially unlucky with the brackets. it's hard to say how mourinho will influence the team, and it's completely possible with their lineup that they'll be a top team in europe, but i'd wait to see proof before i'd say with certainty that theyre in the top 5 in europe.

that being said, bayern were ridiculously lucky to reach the finals last season, and i would still rank them below chelsea, united, inter, barca

and top10 predictions or whatever are stupid, form and injuries dictate seasons, it's impossible to tell how teams will do until much later in the season

ps i cant wait for the regular season to start and people in north america to forget about soccer for 4 years, so i can enjoy it in peace ffs
TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
July 17 2010 06:22 GMT
#80
lol @ banner, feels like im in the MGM Soccer stadium =)
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