EPTAlso some here don't seem to understand that Bayern is a top5-side financially. They can provide an amazing training environment, including top notch medical support. Ribery and Robben will go nowhere. And for the german players ... no way anyone is leaving.
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
Also some here don't seem to understand that Bayern is a top5-side financially. They can provide an amazing training environment, including top notch medical support. Ribery and Robben will go nowhere. And for the german players ... no way anyone is leaving. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
I'm pretty pumped for this season, yes we don't have Mourinho anymore but we still have world-class players and Benitez is a great coach as well. Plus, now the players believe that they can win anything and everything. I'm hoping to see the younger guys mature and kick some ass (Santon, Balotelli if he stays, Coutinho). | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
And with Ronaldo gone, the others in ManUtd not getting younger ManUtd isnt top5 for me anymore imo. | ||
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Telemako
Spain1637 Posts
On Barça side, signed Villa and Adriano (Sevilla's Brazilian left back). Targets are Fabregas (probably won't happen because of Arsenal's position and Barça's weak economy) and some defenders to enlarge the bench. If good offers come, Ibra might go out. | ||
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On July 17 2010 16:30 SuperArc wrote: And with *blank* gone, the others in ManUtd not getting younger ManUtd isnt top5 for me anymore imo. People have said that about a millions times and so far they have ALWAYS been wrong. Hell I've even said it myself. Of course being good doesn't guarantee success in Europe giving the massive slice of luck involved and the inherent flaws with a knock-out system; but we'll see. My surprise pick for the CL is Tottenham. Harry is one of the few Premier league managers who excels in the knock-out format; as he's shown in his fantastic FA cup runs. Tottenham are not short of money and have a young squad that could potentially be very strong this year. | ||
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MooCow
1434 Posts
Chelsea v Crystal phallus Arsenal, Lpool, Spurs and a few others are playing. Mostly reserves and youth for Chelsea but great to see Essien back. During the warm up Essien hit the ball into the crowd and hit some kid and he got a nosebleed lol but he went over to apologise. The Bison is back!!! :D | ||
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hyomin godtier
Canada367 Posts
@AGooners this rank is how you think the teams are going to be doing this season right? Its what I think the 10 best teams are going to be based on last season, world cup and now this transfer season. Also that Silva and Vucinic to Man City thing that was my bad lol looking at those transfer lists for a while had me mix up whats rumoured and whats actually happend To those who complaining about Bayern, I like them more then any of the teams I have ranked above I even grew up in Munchen and moved to Canada when I was 15 so they are always going to be one of my favourites. However watching week to week the retarded mistakes Van Bommel, Van Buyton and Demichelies makes makes you wonder just how they are going to stop anyone from scoring aside from Lahm I dont trust anyone in the back. That young kid Badstuber is so untested and I dont know how they expect him to match the best wingers in the world stride for stride, I just dont see it happening. Supporters are supposed to believe in their team its why they are supporters right but the bottom line is the president Beckenbauer said they overachieved last season and hes so close to the team if anyone should have bias its him. They dont get things like that get in the way though it was the same when Cruyff picked Spain to beat Holland, they just look at the teams and the football they play and thats all that matters. So why does he think they overachieved? I dont know, maybe he didnt think Robben could have such a dramatic impact or that Muller would be such a stud in his first season. They won the bundesliga but it was not impressive by any means with 20W-10D-4L they didnt exactly dominate their domestic league like the teams above did and based on champions league results the last few years, those teams ranked above play in superior leagues, not to take anything away from the bundesliga its just the 4th best league in europe. Also Bayerns champions league run wasnt the most convincing they were at the brink of elimination against Fiorentina and Man U. Someone also said that Bayern can draw international talent and I disagree at least not top level talent like the teams that are above them on that list. You know when I was younger the biggest international signing Bayern made was Bixente Lizarazu. Bayern always relies on homegrown talents in 1999 champions league finals they had 1 non German starter in Kuffour and only three international players on the team. Sure in the last few years they have gotten a few more international players but how many are trully world class? Ribery they got when he was still somewhat unknown he hadnt really burst on the scene yet and Robben came over because there was no room for him at Real Madrid. Was Zidane, Figo, Ronaldo, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo etc. ever linked with Bayern or current players like C. Ronaldo, Kaka, Robinho etc. Im not saying world class players like them wouldnt play at Bayern they are still a top club in europe but I think most of them dont have Bayern on the shortlist of the top 5 teams they want to play for. Which is why Bayern never get the biggest names in the world. Their strength has always been acquiring the best German players in the country where by the time international events roll around half the German team is made up of Bayern players, just like it was with Spain being all Barcelona players this year at the World Cup. At the end of the day if you want to try and test the validity of the rankings just think if Bayern played Man U who would the betting public make the favourite? Real Madrid vs. Inter? Barcelona vs. Chelsea? there is always a favourite some are obviously closer then others but I think in a game between Bayern vs. Team X (let x represent any team above them in my rankings), team X would be the favourite to win. | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
The Bundesliga also provided the second most players for the world cup. It is just severely underrated. | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On July 18 2010 03:04 Maenander wrote: The Bundesliga did get the most points of all leagues for the UEFA ranking during the last season, and it seems nearly impossible that the Seria A can defend the 3rd place in the ranking next season. Conclusion: The Bundesliga is better than the Seria A right now. Teams like Hamburg, Bremen, Wolfsburg, Schalke, Stuttgart, Leverkusen or Dortmund all operate on a very high level. The Bundesliga also provided the second most players for the world cup. It is just severely underrated. The quality of the league overall doesn't reflect the strength of the top teams. Barcelona are undeniably the best team in the world right now but the depth in La Liga overall looks weaker than it's been for many years. | ||
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SuperArc
Austria7781 Posts
I guess people like to stay ignorant. | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On July 18 2010 10:30 SuperArc wrote: And here I thought this WC would show everyone that the BuLi has finally beaten the Serie A as the top3 leagues in the world... I guess people like to stay ignorant. it's not like the bundesliga is purely german or the serie a is purely italian i mean when they top italian team has 0 italians, it kind of skews the statistics =) and even if they were, it's not like club form results in strong world cup displays either, england won 6 european cups in a row before 1982(back when the premiership was still 90% english), but thats probably because english clubs overachieve in two legged matches :o | ||
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PhilGood2DaY
Germany7424 Posts
Italian league -/- italian players wtf | ||
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
On July 18 2010 10:30 SuperArc wrote: And here I thought this WC would show everyone that the BuLi has finally beaten the Serie A as the top3 leagues in the world... I guess people like to stay ignorant. Urgghh Most people wouldn't dispute BuLi being the stronger league overall. However, the WC is such a drastically different animal to club football any links you make between WC and club success are flawed. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On July 18 2010 10:30 SuperArc wrote: And here I thought this WC would show everyone that the BuLi has finally beaten the Serie A as the top3 leagues in the world... I guess people like to stay ignorant. Lol how can you say this after Inter won the champions league? And let's not forget that Bayern only beat Fiorentina (11th place in Serie A) because of an offside goal. I think that says a lot more than the world cup, which is completely unrelated to club football. | ||
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uberMatt
Canada659 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:41 Holgerius wrote: And now we all know, using SuperArc's logic, that Premier League is way inferior to Bundesliga and not even close to being the best league in the world anymore! Fuck yeah, take that angophiles! :D :D http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/28/zonal-markings-20-teams-of-the-decade-in-full/ you might like this :o rahghadfhasfhdas | ||
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TonyL2
England1953 Posts
On July 18 2010 21:41 Holgerius wrote: And now we all know, using SuperArc's logic, that Premier League is way inferior to Bundesliga and not even close to being the best league in the world anymore! Fuck yeah, take that angophiles! :D Then Serie A must be even further down than expected | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On July 18 2010 22:19 TonyL2 wrote: Then Serie A must be even further down than expected Of course. We now know that New Zealand's league is superior to Serie A. On July 18 2010 22:07 QuakerOats wrote: Lol how can you say this after Inter won the champions league? And let's not forget that Bayern only beat Fiorentina (11th place in Serie A) because of an offside goal. I think that says a lot more than the world cup, which is completely unrelated to club football. Pffffft. You just don't comprehend the wisdom of SuperArc. He knows what he's talking about, man. On July 18 2010 22:07 uberMatt wrote: :D http://www.zonalmarking.net/2010/03/28/zonal-markings-20-teams-of-the-decade-in-full/ you might like this :o rahghadfhasfhdas I did indeed, 2 Roma teams were in there. :D Spalletti's 4-6-0 was creative as hell, and if Roma had just been a little richer as a club they might've gotten a handful of league titles with it instead of all the 2nd places.  | ||
GTR
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