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vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
June 21 2011 23:22 GMT
#1861
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?
procyonlotor
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy473 Posts
June 21 2011 23:29 GMT
#1862
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
June 21 2011 23:32 GMT
#1863
On June 20 2011 13:06 Nazarid wrote:
Bring me the beta =(


Seems like the earliest is going to be August. There's going to be a media event at the end of July

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vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
June 22 2011 06:59 GMT
#1864
On June 22 2011 08:29 procyonlotor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.

ya ive thought about not playing hc, but tbh doesnt seem fun. any game that has hc im going for that mode from that start its how im built, i was more asking overall. i had 2 friends quit d2hc cause dolls exploded and killed instantly impossible to react. i just hope there arent 1 hit kills i want some skill!
kuresuti
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
1393 Posts
June 22 2011 07:05 GMT
#1865
On June 22 2011 15:59 vaporizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 08:29 procyonlotor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.

ya ive thought about not playing hc, but tbh doesnt seem fun. any game that has hc im going for that mode from that start its how im built, i was more asking overall. i had 2 friends quit d2hc cause dolls exploded and killed instantly impossible to react. i just hope there arent 1 hit kills i want some skill!


I know stuff like instakills can be bad, but I am more or less for them. They add some excitement and gets some emotion out of the gamer. Second best feeling in diablo after getting something rare has to be surviving a very dangerous situation, at least for me it is.

I don't think it's that random either to be honest. You might die the first time you encounter a one hit kill enemy, but after that you should run as soon as you see one.
Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
June 22 2011 12:09 GMT
#1866
On June 19 2011 22:49 absalom86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2011 21:59 sirkyan wrote:
On May 25 2011 08:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On May 25 2011 08:14 Rakanishu2 wrote:
Favorite act in D2? Gotta be Act 2. Everyone's least favorite? Act 3. Learn from this blizzard! Don't make tiny enemies that constantly run from you at mock 3! NO DEAD ENDS IN THE SWAMP!


Am I the only one who loved Act 4?


And 1 and 5!

2 and 3 blew.


1 4 and 5 are all good.

3 is just terribly annoying, the jungle part.

2 is much better than 3, especially summoners palace and the final crypt + snake stuff ( and undead sewer dude ).

Hope they don't do another act 3 in D3.


3 and 4 were terrible, imo. 4 is far too short, and 3 was just PAINFUL to go through.
1 is the very definition of epic, one of the best "opening acts" in an RPG. After the Mass Effect opening. :-D
2 is kind of drawn out, but interesting, and plundering through all the tombs in search of the real one is probably the best ~2 hours in the entire game.
3 makes me want to murder fluffy kittens. Horrible jungle design, confusing layouts, annoying enemies, and annoying bosses. Truly the worst in the game.
4 is too short, and has some really annoying monsters in it. Plus it always seemed I was underleveled when going through it, no matter how hard I crushed Act 3 when going through it. Also annoying, the final boss ranges from LOL autoattack and go get something to drink, to OMFG 10 minutes in I have used 500 potions and broke 6 weapons and he is at 75% life, depending on what hero you are, and how lucky you got with finding items(assuming you're soloing, and not getting dropped op weapons by some level 95 friend).
5 brought back the lulz. Cool levels, cool bosses, cool monsters, cool quests. Good ending.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 22 2011 12:17 GMT
#1867
You know the game tells you which tomb is the right one, right?
fearus
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
China2164 Posts
June 22 2011 12:21 GMT
#1868
Act 5 was the best, in terms of artistic merit, change in scenerary, mini quests.

The biggest wtf moment was the Summoner's stage in Act2, I'm sure everyone is use to it now, but the first time I saw it was i was like..

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Sm3agol
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States2055 Posts
June 22 2011 12:36 GMT
#1869
On June 22 2011 21:17 iCanada wrote:
You know the game tells you which tomb is the right one, right?

Yes, but I never bothered to actually look unless I was rushing, which i rarely did. It was much funner to clean them out one by one.
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
3048 Posts
June 22 2011 17:46 GMT
#1870
On June 22 2011 21:17 iCanada wrote:
You know the game tells you which tomb is the right one, right?


You know there's a Diablo II thread that was made specifically to keep D2 discussion out of the D3 thread, right?



vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-28 03:09:20
June 22 2011 19:33 GMT
#1871
On June 22 2011 16:05 kuresuti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 15:59 vaporizor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:29 procyonlotor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.

ya ive thought about not playing hc, but tbh doesnt seem fun. any game that has hc im going for that mode from that start its how im built, i was more asking overall. i had 2 friends quit d2hc cause dolls exploded and killed instantly impossible to react. i just hope there arent 1 hit kills i want some skill!


I know stuff like instakills can be bad, but I am more or less for them. They add some excitement and gets some emotion out of the gamer. Second best feeling in diablo after getting something rare has to be surviving a very dangerous situation, at least for me it is.

I don't think it's that random either to be honest. You might die the first time you encounter a one hit kill enemy, but after that you should run as soon as you see one.

oh trust me i love the thrill, i just am not a big fan of not being able to kill a monster, as a melee v dolls u literally have to either let ur merc kill them or run. but i mean tele and merc killing dolls is super thrilling for sure. starting to get mildy off topic. just wanted some thoughts. BRING D3!

User was warned for this post (standard of English)
Xapti
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2473 Posts
June 22 2011 20:30 GMT
#1872
I guess act 3 was a bit annoying with the flayers, especially the melee and exploding ones, but I really liked the NPCs and quests for that act. The environment was also great, just maps too huge and confusing.

Act 4 was still somehow the worst though, IMO. Too short, and a lot of blah stuff. Monsters were rather hard (although dependent on class), and environment was pretty bland
"Then he told me to tell you that he wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire" — "Well, you tell him that I said that I wouldn't piss on him if he was on Jeopardy!"
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
June 22 2011 20:36 GMT
#1873
On June 23 2011 04:33 vaporizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 16:05 kuresuti wrote:
On June 22 2011 15:59 vaporizor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:29 procyonlotor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.

ya ive thought about not playing hc, but tbh doesnt seem fun. any game that has hc im going for that mode from that start its how im built, i was more asking overall. i had 2 friends quit d2hc cause dolls exploded and killed instantly impossible to react. i just hope there arent 1 hit kills i want some skill!


I know stuff like instakills can be bad, but I am more or less for them. They add some excitement and gets some emotion out of the gamer. Second best feeling in diablo after getting something rare has to be surviving a very dangerous situation, at least for me it is.

I don't think it's that random either to be honest. You might die the first time you encounter a one hit kill enemy, but after that you should run as soon as you see one.

oh trust me i love the thrill, i just am not a big fan of not being able to kill a monster, as a melee v dolls u literally have to either let ur merc kill them or run. but i mean tele and merc killing dolls is super thrilling for sure. starting to get mildy off topic. just wanted some thoughts. BRING D3!


I absolutely love instakills in d2. I definitely think they should be in d3 as well. I recall instantly dying to a bugged nightmare ancients (FE + something else that makes it do a billion damage) and losing my first 'serious' hc character. Lost another one to dolls. Now every time I went to a3, or saw that particular combination on nm ancients, my heart was beating like crazy because I knew the stakes were so high.

So imho, definite yes on instakills in d3 =D
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
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Alabasern
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4005 Posts
June 24 2011 12:12 GMT
#1874
Buy your gear, upgrade your rig, get your holy relics - - - after the DIII beta B.Net will unleash HELL!

SUFFER THE UPHEAVAL!

Come slay undead hordes, crush skulls in PvP, and open the gates to damnation!

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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-24 13:47:00
June 24 2011 13:43 GMT
#1875
On June 23 2011 05:30 Xapti wrote:
I guess act 3 was a bit annoying with the flayers, especially the melee and exploding ones, but I really liked the NPCs and quests for that act. The environment was also great, just maps too huge and confusing.

Act 4 was still somehow the worst though, IMO. Too short, and a lot of blah stuff. Monsters were rather hard (although dependent on class), and environment was pretty bland

Serious? Have you ever done CS runs in classic d2? The Chaos Sanctuary is the best designed area in the game, period. Its the end-game content that the game needed, it has the deepest gameplay of D2 and it works great. It is act 5 that is a giant sack of fail due to boring baal runs and wp/tp bosses being the only thing of value.

The reason why act 1 is great is because it still has some of the Diablo 1 vibe in the environments and music as it was done in the very beginning of dev-work
Aah thats the stuff..
absalom86
Profile Joined April 2010
Iceland1770 Posts
June 24 2011 13:48 GMT
#1876
On June 23 2011 02:46 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 21:17 iCanada wrote:
You know the game tells you which tomb is the right one, right?


You know there's a Diablo II thread that was made specifically to keep D2 discussion out of the D3 thread, right?





The conversation started about what kind of acts we would like to see in Diablo 3, which Diablo 2 is a very good reference for so I don't think your argument counts right there. No one wants to see a Diablo 3 act 3 like Diablo 2 had.
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Zyori
Profile Joined June 2011
United States48 Posts
June 24 2011 13:50 GMT
#1877
I think Act 1 was a great way to kick off the game. It had some of the classic feel, but also introduced all of the improvements in fun way
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gosublade
Profile Joined May 2011
632 Posts
June 27 2011 23:11 GMT
#1878
act 1 way the best act. In d2 and 3, it goes darker as you go.
Not even death can save you from me.
drewcifer
Profile Joined June 2010
United States192 Posts
June 27 2011 23:23 GMT
#1879
On June 22 2011 15:59 vaporizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 08:29 procyonlotor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.

ya ive thought about not playing hc, but tbh doesnt seem fun. any game that has hc im going for that mode from that start its how im built, i was more asking overall. i had 2 friends quit d2hc cause dolls exploded and killed instantly impossible to react. i just hope there arent 1 hit kills i want some skill!



don't think you're allowed to make hc until you beat the game. btw if you are so hardcore why are you in the same post asking the game to be easier?
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
vaporizor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States53 Posts
June 28 2011 02:49 GMT
#1880
On June 28 2011 08:23 drewcifer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 15:59 vaporizor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:29 procyonlotor wrote:
On June 22 2011 08:22 vaporizor wrote:
so i was wondering, should there be monster like exploding dolls that can random kill even a well geared character, or even the fire explode like in d2? i personally, obv i play hc hope there isnt anything like this. i want things that can kill me just not 1 hit, thoughts?


I don't think it would be wise to start playing HC straight away. Learn the game a bit, then try. Personally, I think one hit kills are bad game design, plain and simple. If you one hit kill people you give them no chance to react against whatever they are facing. It becomes all the worse if random things can kill you if you try to interact with them.

ya ive thought about not playing hc, but tbh doesnt seem fun. any game that has hc im going for that mode from that start its how im built, i was more asking overall. i had 2 friends quit d2hc cause dolls exploded and killed instantly impossible to react. i just hope there arent 1 hit kills i want some skill!



don't think you're allowed to make hc until you beat the game. btw if you are so hardcore why are you in the same post asking the game to be easier?

well you used to not be able to but now u can play hc from the start. also it was just for discussion, as i said 2 of my friends quit and made a valid point that it was an insta kill, no way to skill out of it per say. i was just interested in some viewpoints that is all
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