Diablo III General Discussion - Page 125

On August 01 2011 16:23 NotJack wrote:


If you're aware that nothing is changing why do you oppose it?

On August 01 2011 16:27 Chairman Ray wrote:


Well it's a hack n' slash game, so I suppose they're taking out everything that's not hack or slash

On August 01 2011 16:21 anonymitylol wrote:

Because you're not directly buying it. Seriously, are you stupid?

On August 01 2011 16:28 RANDOMCL wrote:


I disagree with it being "nothing". I feel that a company supporting something is different then a company not supporting it.

If you honestly don't see a difference between:

A company selling a game for $X, a third-party site allowing you to sell items to others for $$$.

and

A company selling a game for $X, and they also allow you to sell items to others.

Then a proper discussion can't be had.

I don't support RMT in the form of buying power. It breeds negativity. Blizzard is actively supporting it. You buy it from players, but through their system, and they charge you a fee for a license to do it.

Due to problems encountered in the internal alpha testing phase, the entire skill system has been overhauled. Now, instead of allocating individual points to statistics such as strength, vitality and dexterity, each character will receive an auto-allocated boost to these statistics when levelling. The player can then choose which combat skills, either passive or active, to unlock and use. These skills are available to choose every six levels, beginning at level six.

As an example, a Barbarian moving from level one to five will have two base combat skills available at the outset, and a conventional melee attack. Upon reaching level six, the player can choose from a selection of new skills that offer different ways to attack enemies, such as Hammer of the Gods, or Ancient Spear. Only six of these skills can be used at any one time, and can be added to hot-keys in order to use them in battle.

On August 01 2011 16:31 Endymion wrote:


No, but I'm beginning to think that you are. Blizzard is endorsing trading real life money for in game advantages (not having to farm), think Eden Eternal.. Except Eden Eternal doesn't sell their best gear for USD, because you actually have to play to get it. Now I can log onto D3 with 1000 dollars and instantly become amazingly geared. I would rather have the risk of identity theft there so that I don't have to compete with millions of 12 year olds stealing their mom's credit card and buying gear. It's against the whole grain of gaming, it's like buying a fucking grand masters account for 100 dollars when you're in bronze league. What exactly about this is a "good idea?"

On August 01 2011 16:31 Shodaa wrote:


From what I understand you're not actually require to use money. If you make some by selling items, you can just use that money to buy other items. Blizzard do get a cut if you wanna transfert it to your bank account tho.

On August 01 2011 16:29 ZeraToss wrote:


but then your only option for individualism is the equipment you wear, but everyone will have same skills, lol

On August 01 2011 16:28 RANDOMCL wrote:


I disagree with it being "nothing". I feel that a company supporting something is different then a company not supporting it.

If you honestly don't see a difference between:

A company selling a game for $X, a third-party site allowing you to sell items to others for $$$.

and

A company selling a game for $X, and they also allow you to sell items to others.

Then a proper discussion can't be had.

I don't support RMT in the form of buying power. It breeds negativity. Blizzard is actively supporting it. You buy it from players, but through their system, and they charge you a fee for a license to do it.

On August 01 2011 16:32 RANDOMCL wrote:


I completely understand that. I know money isn't required. My comments concern the fact that they endorse it by building it into their game.

On August 01 2011 16:31 Shodaa wrote:


From what I understand you're not actually require to use money. If you make some by selling items, you can just use that money to buy other items. Blizzard do get a cut if you wanna transfert it to your bank account tho.

On August 01 2011 16:33 anonymitylol wrote:


It would happen either way. Stop being obtuse, it's a good business plan for Blizzard and it will reduce the amount of 3rd party websites selling items.

On August 01 2011 16:28 RANDOMCL wrote:

EDIT: I am not saying my stance is correct. I am saying it is my moral opinion. I am one of the most liberal people you will ever meet, and morality is, for the most part, a very gray area to me. However, this is something I personally feel strongly about. Again, my opinion. But there is clearly a massive difference between the two.

On August 01 2011 16:32 Tobberoth wrote:

Just like in Wow.

On August 01 2011 16:33 NotJack wrote:


If you care that much about people out there buying items, you'll play hardcore and be perfectly fine.

I guess I am missing the difference between a company selling the items and allowing a third party to sell them, so much for getting my MBA. Can you support your claim a bit?

The fact that you don't like how Blizzard is making money from licensing fees makes you just seem grumpy about micotransactions. If you have an argument about how it effects the game as a whole that's worth listening too, if not it's simply a moot point.

On August 01 2011 16:34 NotJack wrote:


Okay so your stance is that you saw RMT and felt bad. As fine as that is you really shouldn't feel bad. Cheer up the game will be great =D

On August 01 2011 16:36 RANDOMCL wrote:


The difference is endorses the concept.

It isn't about people buying their items. It was available in D2 (and most games today). It is about a company SUPPORTING this. I'm not "grumpy" about microtransactions whatsoever. The idea is fine. What is done with it is different.