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sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
May 18 2016 15:00 GMT
#21341
On May 18 2016 17:08 fishjie wrote:
Question, just got an ancient IK boulder breaker. I currently have a regular IK boulder breaker. I am doing raekor with boulder toss. The regular boulder breaker gives me +21 fury. The ancient one does NOT have + fury, but according to comparison gives me +67% damage over the regular one. However the comparison does not factor in boulder toss.

But i'm not sure the damage mechanics of boulder toss so i can figure out which one is better. Each pt of fury spent is 20% weapon damage, so 21 fury = +410% weapon damage right? Not sure how to compare that to the +200 extra str the ancient boulder breaker gives me plus the higher base damage....

If you only had +max fury from paragon boulder toss would do 171/150=14% more dmg with 21 fury on weapon when used with full fury pool. Or 3420/3000=14% if you want to use the weapon dmg %.
fishjie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
May 19 2016 10:01 GMT
#21342
On May 19 2016 00:00 sopas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 18 2016 17:08 fishjie wrote:
Question, just got an ancient IK boulder breaker. I currently have a regular IK boulder breaker. I am doing raekor with boulder toss. The regular boulder breaker gives me +21 fury. The ancient one does NOT have + fury, but according to comparison gives me +67% damage over the regular one. However the comparison does not factor in boulder toss.

But i'm not sure the damage mechanics of boulder toss so i can figure out which one is better. Each pt of fury spent is 20% weapon damage, so 21 fury = +410% weapon damage right? Not sure how to compare that to the +200 extra str the ancient boulder breaker gives me plus the higher base damage....

If you only had +max fury from paragon boulder toss would do 171/150=14% more dmg with 21 fury on weapon when used with full fury pool. Or 3420/3000=14% if you want to use the weapon dmg %.


ok thanks! do you have a link to the mechanics of calculating damage for boulder toss? tried googling but found a lot of old threads.
sopas
Profile Joined July 2011
509 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-19 12:25:11
May 19 2016 12:20 GMT
#21343
On May 19 2016 19:01 fishjie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 19 2016 00:00 sopas wrote:
On May 18 2016 17:08 fishjie wrote:
Question, just got an ancient IK boulder breaker. I currently have a regular IK boulder breaker. I am doing raekor with boulder toss. The regular boulder breaker gives me +21 fury. The ancient one does NOT have + fury, but according to comparison gives me +67% damage over the regular one. However the comparison does not factor in boulder toss.

But i'm not sure the damage mechanics of boulder toss so i can figure out which one is better. Each pt of fury spent is 20% weapon damage, so 21 fury = +410% weapon damage right? Not sure how to compare that to the +200 extra str the ancient boulder breaker gives me plus the higher base damage....

If you only had +max fury from paragon boulder toss would do 171/150=14% more dmg with 21 fury on weapon when used with full fury pool. Or 3420/3000=14% if you want to use the weapon dmg %.


ok thanks! do you have a link to the mechanics of calculating damage for boulder toss? tried googling but found a lot of old threads.

nah that's just how i figured it would work and i don't see any other way for it to be calculated, just new fury amount divided by old fury amount.
It can be pretty hard to compare a good rolled non-ancient with fury to an ancient with no fury and average rolls though since all the other stats are different too. You should try d3planner site and import your items and see what it says.
red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
May 21 2016 00:43 GMT
#21344
300 DB/souls trying to convert set piece to get a UE helmet and I literally got boots, shoulders, chest, over and over and over again. I know it's 1/6 and the recipe isn't meant to be consistent but holy fuck I literally just need the helmet. I have gambled every shard I have gotten for the last week since I had an ancient Yang's drop to still not have one so I said fuck it and now I am even more salty.

Fun game.
How did the experience of working at Mr Burns' Nuclear Plant influence Homer's composition of the Iliad and Odyssey?
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
May 26 2016 22:50 GMT
#21345
has shotgun crusader gotten any buffs or itemization benefits the last couple of seasons?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 16 2016 20:15 GMT
#21346
Kind of looking for a game that I can just chill out with after work. never played diablo before but might be what I need.

Is it that type of game?
Zerg for Life
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
June 16 2016 20:36 GMT
#21347
On June 17 2016 05:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Kind of looking for a game that I can just chill out with after work. never played diablo before but might be what I need.

Is it that type of game?



Yes. Its perfect for that.
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Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
June 16 2016 23:02 GMT
#21348
On June 17 2016 05:36 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 17 2016 05:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Kind of looking for a game that I can just chill out with after work. never played diablo before but might be what I need.

Is it that type of game?



Yes. Its perfect for that.

Agreed. Character progression takes you into the game and takes your mind off other things, but it doesn't put much pressure on your performance, so it isn't too draining.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
June 19 2016 08:16 GMT
#21349
made a wizard , pretty awesome game so far, quite like the story mode.

It seems there is an extensive endgame but for now i'm just happy following the story, reading all the books and blasting dead creatures.
Zerg for Life
WolfintheSheep
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada14127 Posts
June 19 2016 22:44 GMT
#21350
On June 19 2016 17:16 KelsierSC wrote:
made a wizard , pretty awesome game so far, quite like the story mode.

It seems there is an extensive endgame but for now i'm just happy following the story, reading all the books and blasting dead creatures.

Yeah, story mode was good for one playthrough. YMMV on quality of story, but it's still fun to go through.
Average means I'm better than half of you.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16839 Posts
July 31 2016 05:35 GMT
#21351
any thoughts on the "Diablo4 announced at Blizzcon" theory?

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Valiver
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Caldeum1977 Posts
July 31 2016 05:45 GMT
#21352
This is pretty thorough - https://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/4jijwt/diablo_3_expansion_2_versus_diablo_4_new_diablo/
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 31 2016 08:04 GMT
#21353
is there a tl;dr?
Garbels
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria653 Posts
July 31 2016 08:14 GMT
#21354
tl:dr
No one knows.
Talaris
Profile Joined March 2011
Switzerland753 Posts
July 31 2016 08:17 GMT
#21355
On July 31 2016 17:04 dAPhREAk wrote:
is there a tl;dr?

TLDR; lots of hints that there will be a 2nd D3 expansion, lots of hints that there is none.
Also, speculation galore.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
July 31 2016 08:38 GMT
#21356
thanks!
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9563 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-07-31 11:35:32
July 31 2016 11:29 GMT
#21357
Yeah if anything will be revealed this year, it will be D3X2, not Diablo 4. I remember them sending a survey to people asking if they'd want to see a 2nd expansion. To be completely honest, right now I'm not sure I'd buy it, but it would intrigue me and I'd follow the development. But no more throwing money blindly at Blizzard for me.

If they really are starting to work on D4 hiring talent for a brand new game, do not expect to hear on it for at least 3 years or more. You and I know Blizzard.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/list/4JknvV
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
July 31 2016 12:25 GMT
#21358
If they finally implement proper PvP money shall be thrown from me.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
July 31 2016 17:58 GMT
#21359
well couldn't be more then 2v2 that easily. Aside from that they just need to create equipment that balances the classes and only works on the pvp maps and have damage modifiers as well on said maps, so you don't need like 99,9% resistance vs players.

But last Blizzcon it already looked like we will get another exansion, so not to surprised but hyped.

Doubt they are thinking about PvP in anyway though. Would just add competition with their pvp games.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
July 31 2016 18:35 GMT
#21360
Plenty of games have different balancing for PvE / PvP modes.

And 1v1/2v2/FFA is pretty much all you need / all anyones ever wanted.
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