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BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
August 21 2010 01:54 GMT
#13541
On August 21 2010 10:48 myopia wrote:
Somebody analyze my mummy jungle path please?

Start cloth + pots

Blue (smite finish) - wolves - wraiths - golems - red (smite start) - wolves - wraiths - golems - B

Finish HoG, buy ward, 2 pots

Dragon - I think I hit lvl 7 here or after one more camp, which is when I can gank properly. Then whatever.


It works out really well, I'm never close to dieing, I'm just wondering if my Dragon is too slow to stop a good WW or something.


I like ganking if possible at 4 with red... also ww will kill dragon before you get to it . Other than that if it work for you its probably good
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 21 2010 01:55 GMT
#13542
That's a very slow dragon.

I go cloth+5 pots, blue --> wolves --> wraiths --> red --> golems, b+get ruby pendant, dragon at level 4--> get their golem if they don't have a jungler and if safe, if not b.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
August 21 2010 02:00 GMT
#13543
Honestly in ranked there's no way in hell you will get a four minute dragon off unless the other team is completely retarded or without a jungler.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
APurpleCow
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1372 Posts
August 21 2010 02:03 GMT
#13544
On August 21 2010 11:00 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly in ranked there's no way in hell you will get a four minute dragon off unless the other team is completely retarded or without a jungler.


That's true once you gain ELO in ranked, but it works 99.9% of the time in normal queue and in lowish ELO ranked.
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 21 2010 02:06 GMT
#13545
On August 21 2010 10:48 myopia wrote:
Somebody analyze my mummy jungle path please?

Start cloth + pots

Blue (smite finish) - wolves - wraiths - golems - red (smite start) - wolves - wraiths - golems - B

Finish HoG, buy ward, 2 pots

Dragon - I think I hit lvl 7 here or after one more camp, which is when I can gank properly. Then whatever.


It works out really well, I'm never close to dieing, I'm just wondering if my Dragon is too slow to stop a good WW or something.


You also need to give the time you try dragon and when you level along with the skills you get.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 21 2010 02:08 GMT
#13546
I don't have a dragon time, but if it's doable on cow's route, that's what I'll do.

I level:

WEWEWRQ - whatever

because I don't plan on ganking until lvl 7, I don't need Q until then.
it's my first day
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 02:31:27
August 21 2010 02:25 GMT
#13547
On August 21 2010 07:00 ghen wrote:
I don't think RIOT is stupid, they're just inexperienced. Going from basically nobody into a professional gaming scene in a year? Not sure any company could live up to that.

I personally wouldn't have banned anyone from tournament play that didn't actually conspire to hack the account. People on the internet troll. its like a second job. Maybe reprimanded? Given a handicap at most.
and i don't think you've had any direct experience with RIOT. we have and i can assure you that they are absolutely retarded. honestly, any one of you guys (with the exception of maybe Rugfeeder) could have organized a better tournament. Matt Marcou is like one of the fucking legendary dogs from pokemon silver. you hear about him, you saw him once, then you just have to pray to god you see him again in your adventures and that your trigger finger is right next to your masterball. continuing with that analogy, phreak is pikachu.

edit: Pendragon is psyduck.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 21 2010 02:29 GMT
#13548
On August 21 2010 08:10 HeavOnEarth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 03:41 Southlight wrote:
On August 21 2010 03:31 APurpleCow wrote:
If you just killed 3-5 of your opponents in the team fight and can choose between getting Baron or killing a base turret+inhibitor, which would you choose?

I'm not sure which is better =/


That's a no-brainer. The inhibitor. You can always bait them/wait-out Baron afterwards, because if you stand around Baron and dare them to stop you, their base will get auto-pushed. If they send one person to take care of their base you instantly get a "free" 5v4, or if they're smart and pull back you get ample time to Baron, etc. It puts a lot of pressure on them.

Edit:
By the way assuming you opt for the inhibitor, your team must heal ASAP afterwards. Don't fuck around; if the other team is smart and catches you napping they'll simply bumrush Baron themselves while you screw around and delay healing and you won't be able to do anything about it. This is an often game-changing mistake. Don't do it.
this is actually something that wins games.
when your inhib dies and (hopefully) you warded dragon or see someone farming a lane
BUM RUSH BARON
make sure to bring a ward for the path behind it and path leading into it
i heard an awesome group of young men beat CLG doing this.
On August 21 2010 10:30 ShoreT wrote:
Is it just me, or does Nunu seem to fit into this metagame very well right now? He is a monster in lane with a low CD Nuke and a good farm / heal, along with arguably the best speed buff in the game.
i absolutely agree with you. there are better options (imbavlad) for magic damage but he's thick and does damage. the best characters right now are the ones that aren't worth killing but can't be ignored (damaging tanks, super-mobile carries, support heroes).
On August 21 2010 11:00 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Honestly in ranked there's no way in hell you will get a four minute dragon off unless the other team is completely retarded or without a jungler.
agree. 4 minute dragon is a myth. lvl 2 dragon is easier than 4 minute dragon.
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myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 02:37:14
August 21 2010 02:30 GMT
#13549
hahahah


nice HSGG is playing AP Yi right now. Only the proest of pros go AP YI.
it's my first day
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 21 2010 02:57 GMT
#13550
On August 21 2010 08:25 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 23:39 Mogwai wrote:
On August 20 2010 17:25 arb wrote:
Just bought Xin Zhao, can someone give me an item build and some pointers?
(im doing pretty ass right now)


uhhh, lessee... Depends on whether you're jungling or laning with him, but essentially I always have my first three items as:
Madred's Razor
Heart of Gold
Merc Treads

And then from there I gun for:
1. Madred's Bloodrazor and Guardian Angel
2. Frozen Mallet
3. Radumin's Omen

And I pump elixirs after this or sometimes just after GA, depending on how soon we need the extra OOMPH. I also sometimes skip HoG in favor of a negatron cloak and then replace Omen with Banshee's vs. particularly heavy Magic teams.

Jungling I run my standard 1/14/15 setup (i'm addicted to dropping the veteran's scars crap for movespeed). AS Marks, Armor Seals, MR Glyphs, AS Marks. Ghost/Smite

Laning I typically run a 0/11/19 setup. AS Marks, Mp5pL Seals, MR Glyphs, MS Quints. Ghost/Cleanse or Ghost/Ignite depending on opposing team.

but I'm a pretty tanky Xin player, there are also good builds that do crap like:
phage
mercs
Mallet
Ghostblade
GA
IE

I just build everyone tanky in this metagame, lol.

id much prefer laning, usually one of the guys i play with goes for a tank though, so something good with damage?

I would say just try my build before judging whether you need more damage alongside another tank. Honestly the best teams in the metagame right now have at least 3 tanks on them, so don't approach the issue like "herp de derp, we already have a tank, I need teh damages." Being able to last forever in a fight, especially with his absurd CDs and W's CD reduction, means that you can do a metric ass ton of damage and CCing just by virtue of your skill, so don't get hung up on trying to build towards damage until you can definitely assess that that's what you need.

And again, if my first suggested build isn't cutting it for damage, I gave a rough questimation of what the DPSier builds look like (the last part of my post), so you should have that to jump off from if you decide that Bloodrazor + Mallet into tanking spam isn't cutting it.

On August 21 2010 10:36 Phrost wrote:
Also on another note people on the LoL forums have been misinformed and I figure people here have the same assumptions:

For clarification; Last Whisper reads: UNIQUE Passive: Attacks penetrate 40% of the defender's armor.

NOT: UNIQUE Passive: 40% armor penetration

Thus Last Whisper does not affect SKILLS that do physical damage because they are not (auto) attacks.

I've continually tried to beat this into people's heads as a Pantheon player who knew how it works. Guess it never hurts to say it again, but I certainly hope most people have heard me rant about how LW is garbage on Pantheon enough to understand this.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 03:00:44
August 21 2010 02:58 GMT
#13551
You know WRA, your tank nidalee build (GRB into GA) is the same build used by a guy on my friend list, Chyea. Know him?
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 03:06:15
August 21 2010 03:00 GMT
#13552
SpudBoy's Ali up against HSGG on the stream right now

and he gets FB! oh wait maybe it was gives up FB, I can't really tell haha
it's my first day
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
August 21 2010 03:04 GMT
#13553
On August 21 2010 11:58 Juicyfruit wrote:
You know WRA, your tank nidalee build (GRB into GA) is the same build used by a guy on my friend list, Chyea. Know him?
yeah i'm actually playing him right now in WCG. we played vs it once but he played a bit different. the doran's shield makes a huge difference during laning.
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 21 2010 03:05 GMT
#13554
I'm really sick of pirate 2v1ing a lane, they need to make raise morale not deny
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
August 21 2010 03:08 GMT
#13555
I'm sick of Mundo recovering health faster than I can damage him 1v1, they need to make his ult not heal.

On August 21 2010 11:25 redtooth wrote:
honestly, any one of you guys (with the exception of maybe Rugfeeder) could have organized a better tournament.



WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
August 21 2010 03:18 GMT
#13556
On August 21 2010 12:08 Tooplark wrote:
I'm sick of Mundo recovering health faster than I can damage him 1v1, they need to make his ult not heal.

So his ult should make him walk 15% faster for 10 seconds? I'm sure that will fly.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
August 21 2010 03:24 GMT
#13557
On August 21 2010 12:18 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2010 12:08 Tooplark wrote:
I'm sick of Mundo recovering health faster than I can damage him 1v1, they need to make his ult not heal.

So his ult should make him walk 15% faster for 10 seconds? I'm sure that will fly.


i think that was a jab at the phrost's post about pirate above
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
August 21 2010 03:38 GMT
#13558
Spudboy's 363 AP Alistair comes through with a clutch Baron steal
it's my first day
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 21 2010 03:44 GMT
#13559
raw raw raw dodges me 24/7
<3

Hi from the Carribeans, on vaca until Sept 5th. ^^

Nice to see L0cust here as well. Hope you post more. Cheers guys.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
August 21 2010 03:46 GMT
#13560
Pirate is such a dumb champion. I stand by RNG as the worst mechanic available.


That being sad even if you suck with Amumu (like i do) man his ult is a game changer.

I just massed HOG and got boots and we won i was like 2-2-21973562183521763457123
iamphrost.tumblr.com // http://howtobebettermagicplayer.tumblr.com // twitter @phrost_
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