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radmax86
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
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red_
United States8474 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:26 Orpheos wrote: GPs ult is pretty disgusting when used well. i hate playing with newb GPs that blow it whenever its off CD just to fail at getting a KS. its like insta fiddle ult + morg ult when used in the middle of teamfights if they dont have a good disengager. I hate how RNG it is. There's times where you fight in it(probably because you're forced to by another snare), or you chase through it for a kill, etc; and it does nothing at all. Literally 0 damage, no slow, nothing. And then there's times where it rapes you for 500+ damage even though you bolted to the nearest edge as soon as it dropped. | ||
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rredtooth
5460 Posts
On August 21 2010 12:44 NeoIllusions wrote: neo too bad i asked you to play and it was someone else saying he was going to win 100 games as AP jax. vacation-dodge more n00b.raw raw raw dodges me 24/7 <3 Hi from the Carribeans, on vaca until Sept 5th. ^^ Nice to see L0cust here as well. Hope you post more. Cheers guys. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
My masteries and runes were probably wrong, the small golem camp was owning me | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
Assumptions: You have zero tier 3 runes, you have unlimited money, and you want to have every good rune. 93 total runes 29 "good" 64 "bad" (Your mileage may vary, I think I was pretty liberal about choosing "good" runes but I almost certainly missed something or added the wrong thing) Odds of getting a good rune: 31.2% Average price for a good rune if you bought it tier 3: 812.93 Average price for a bad rune if you bought it tier 3: 671.17 (not really relevant here obviously) (cost per lvl 1 * combine number) = 15x25 = 375 total combine cost Average Number of combines to get a good rune: 3.21 Total cost for 3.21 combines = 1201.92 Total "good" runes needed for 9 per color: 29*9=261 I have no idea how to factor the probability of 9 of the same color in the first 32 rolls Example 1: not very good math + Show Spoiler + Assuming you don't get more than 9 of the same in the first ~32 combines: 32 combines = 10 good runes, 22 bad runes 11 more combines of 2 tier 3 bad runes = 3.43 good runes, 7.57 bad runes 3 more combines = .93 good runes, 2.07 bad runes one more combine rounds down to zero So from the first 32 combines it costs 12,000 You gain 14.36 good runes with fuzzy math for a cost per good rune of 835.65 Example 2 assuming you don't get any duplicates in the first 52 combines: 52 combines, 16.2 good runes and 35.8 bad runes 17.9 more combines = 5.58 good runes and 12.32 bad runes 6.16 more combines = 1.92 good runes and 4.24 bad runes 2.12 more combines = .66 good runes The first 52 combines cost 19,500 You gain 24.36 good runes with more fuzzy math costs 800.49 per rune Slightly better math than example 1, This shows a savings of about 35.16 per rune as long as you don't get more than 9 of any "good" rune - With an average cost of 800.49 that is a savings of 4.21% Costs and good vs. bad according to me + Show Spoiler + 205 410 515 820 1025 2050 edit: It's 1AM here. please check my math XD edit2: its now 2AM. this was driving me nuts so I had to do more corrections before sleep | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:39 Phrost wrote: Are you taking into account that you can turn 3 bad runes into another rune? i dont think so. i think theres significantly more math to that. although i dont feel like thinking atm >_< | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:39 Phrost wrote: Are you taking into account that you can turn 3 bad runes into another rune? Woops! No. Ok. back to the drawing board. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:42 Orpheos wrote: i dont think so. i think theres significantly more math to that. although i dont feel like thinking atm >_< Two | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:36 Phrost wrote: So what's the right way to play jungle amumu? My masteries and runes were probably wrong, the small golem camp was owning me The runes that matter are dodge yellow and mp5plvl blue (you could try flat armor as well, but nimbleness proccing is way too useful on mummy) my masteries: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-3-3-4-0-1-2-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-0 I heard people advocating maxing all the prevent dmg skills, but SoS's imba regen outstrips the prevented damage easily. (actually now that I see it, you could probly take out those 2 points in harden skin for movespeed) I level skills WEWEWRQ - for the late gank at 7 or if you need to help a lane faster then you could get Q at lvl 4. I start with cloth armor + 5 hpots, at blue. Chug pots to start and never stop. Smite to finish blue - then go wolves - wraiths - golems - red (smite will be back up before red). If you're going for a gank or think you can get away with a fast dragon, back for a ruby and go to dragon/lane. Otherwise walk back to wolves and they'll respawn right as you get there, and you can hit wraiths and golems the same way before needing to b. Then you can buy HoG, a ward and more pots to watch/take dragon. If you take dragon here you should hit lvl 7. I'm not very good, but with this setup, the jungling aspect gives me no trouble. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:59 myopia wrote: The runes that matter are dodge yellow and mp5plvl blue (you could try flat armor as well, but nimbleness proccing is way too useful on mummy) my masteries: http://www.mobafire.com/league-of-legends/mastery-tree-planner#&tree1=0-0-1-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0&tree2=0-3-0-3-3-4-0-1-2-0-0-0-0-0&tree3=0-0-3-1-4-0-0-3-2-0-0-0-0-0-0 I heard people advocating maxing all the prevent dmg skills, but SoS's imba regen outstrips the prevented damage easily. (actually now that I see it, you could probly take out those 2 points in harden skin for movespeed) I level skills WEWEWRQ - for the late gank at 7 or if you need to help a lane faster then you could get Q at lvl 4. I start with cloth armor + 5 hpots, at blue. Chug pots to start and never stop. Smite to finish blue - then go wolves - wraiths - golems - red (smite will be back up before red). If you're going for a gank or think you can get away with a fast dragon, back for a ruby and go to dragon/lane. Otherwise walk back to wolves and they'll respawn right as you get there, and you can hit wraiths and golems the same way before needing to b. Then you can buy HoG, a ward and more pots to watch/take dragon. If you take dragon here you should hit lvl 7. I'm not very good, but with this setup, the jungling aspect gives me no trouble. Meditation over veteran's scars? | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
with meditation, mp5 glyphs, and blue buff, you'll just BARELY run out of mana as you kill red the first time. The blue buff helps a ton early game, and then late game when your glyphs kick in, you won't need blue again. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On August 21 2010 13:39 Phrost wrote: Are you taking into account that you can turn 3 bad runes into another rune? Ok, check my post again I updated it with an example. It's not a perfect number, but better than I first had. | ||
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On August 21 2010 12:46 Phrost wrote: Pirate is such a dumb champion. I stand by RNG as the worst mechanic available. That being sad even if you suck with Amumu (like i do) man his ult is a game changer. I just massed HOG and got boots and we won i was like 2-2-21973562183521763457123 Jax. I agree, rng is so stupid. It's the reason why I never use my dodge seals. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On August 21 2010 14:17 myopia wrote: it's actually 5mp5, 1mp per sec - free dorans ring yeah with meditation, mp5 glyphs, and blue buff, you'll just BARELY run out of mana as you kill red the first time. The blue buff helps a ton early game, and then late game when your glyphs kick in, you won't need blue again. Totally didnt notice it was 1mp1 not 1mp5 Seems much better than I initially thought. | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
Her ult continues to channel during the invulnerability and death and stuns at the end of the 4 seconds *facepalm* | ||
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