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On August 21 2010 00:50 Southlight wrote:
Try running your full armor page on TF, buying cloth +5 pots with -5 damage from physical, and jungling with TF?

By the way I'll probably be home at like 9-10ET today :[

On August 21 2010 00:56 Tooplark wrote:
I've been thinking about Mundo. Maybe Last Whisper -> survivability is the best build on him in the current metagame. The main thing Spirit Visage gives him is the CDR, so it could easily be skipped. 40% ignored armor is great in the current metagame, too.

Also with the cost increase only get one level of cleaver. Seriously, at level two each use is like eating an autoattack, and level five is taking a free crit.

On August 21 2010 02:28 Mogwai wrote:
no no no, I really think Q is vital for tank fate. I think the most efficient way to dish out damage without investing much in itemizing for it would be to WQQEQR into R > Q > W >E grabbing just a grb in the way of damage.

On August 21 2010 03:00 L0CUST. wrote:
I'm not going to say the competitive scene will die, or that anything will really happen because of this ordeal. The thing is the number of good players at the top that are active and are trying to push this game's competitive community forward is really really small. Of the teams in the tournament, only a handful actively queue in the ladder, and a few setup skirmishes. AoN is disbanding, and they were the most active team as of late. Team games like this have a very difficult to get into "top tier". It is even worse with the 6month grind you have to do in LoL..

On August 21 2010 03:01 Southlight wrote:
Kassadin builds etc. are situational. You're gonna hafta be a lot more specific. Are you taking solo? Are you in a side lane? How are you playing him? What're you trying to accomplish?

As a solo laner I usually rush Catalyst, despite how much I shat on the item. It gives you good EHP, and if you abuse the level HP/mana restore on ganks (charge up to ~95% xp and then go gank, you can turn into a pretty nasty bait and/or let you tower dive). Coupled with an early level 1 W (usually at level 2) and mp5pl seals you have enough regen to constantly harass... if that's how you wanna roll.

I used to get Tear as well but that was in the stead of Catalyst, running a completely different item build and playstyle, and was more suited toward side-laning where you're not gonna be able to rush Catalyst (lack of farm).

Again goes back to my "what exactly are you doing."

Incidentally I favor Cleanse and Ghost because he's an attrition hero, so you have to be able to outlast them. Cleanse makes you pretty much impossible to kill, and you need Ghost because many times you're not gonna want to waste an R (essentially 140 mana) just to catch up or to get somewhere fast.

On August 21 2010 03:02 Mogwai wrote:
Cleanse seems non-negotiable on Kass and Ghost makes running from you/catching you literally impossible, so I'd say that's what you should take for summoner spells.

as for items, it varies a bunch depending on your skill level and what you have going for you in the way of runes/masteries. I could give you some idea of what Southlight does, but if you're still sitting at level 10 and have no mana regen/level runes, it's not gonna do you a whole lotta good so we should probably get that sorted out first.

On August 21 2010 03:22 DefMatrixUltra wrote:





You guys are amazing. I'll try to lay it all out clearly.

I'm at lvl 25 right now, mostly doing solo or duo queue, so 99% of the time I take a side lane with a partner, normally Rammus but sometimes just some random champ. I definitely 100% would rush Mejai's every game if I wasn't in solo/duo queue where I feel like it's just too unpredictable, though I have done it several times (with mixed results).

As for runes, I have a wide array of mostly Tier 1 runes (slowly converting stuff to Tier 3) to cover just about any champ except maybe Udyr. So stuff like MPen/ArmPen, mp5/lvl etc. is all accounted for, and I even have some Movespeed Quints that I got for Singed (and that I am currently using on Kassadin).

To be honest, I wouldn't know what to do in mid. Would I have to take an earlier W to charge up E? I would ideally want to take mid, if only for the level advantage to set up a super-strong gank (not to mention Kass is very threatening in 1v1).

I noticed bigfatjiji went Doran's ring --> RoA --> Rylai's, but that seems like you would 100% need mid to farm enough money.

I definitely agree on Cleanse because it seems like a huge waste to get Merc Treads when I could go Sorc Boots - and I hadn't considered Ghost from that point of view, but I'm warming up to it.

On August 21 2010 03:08 Southlight wrote:


That sucks Kinda sucks that Riot's just catering to the masses, but at the same time it's hard to fault them entirely for it, especially if they're going to seriously try to clean up the scene and limit BS from now on. The big question for me regarding this is how tough they'll be hereonforth, as in whether they'll maintain the precedent set, or whether this was just a one-time "cater to the mob" sort of thing. I genuinely hope it's the former, but I'd also wholeheartedly agree they've done nothing to show that it's the case.

As for the problem with team games, I agree there too, from my Guild Wars experience. As far as I know the only way ArenaNet was able to "solve" the problem was to finally introduce regular (as in, monthly) tournaments... and they did this 3 years after the initial release of the game (eyeroll) which was too late to stop the Korean scene from departing. It's only been a year for Riot, but the slowness with replays (although the technical difficulty is somewhat acceptable), lack of observer mode, and the severe lack of official tournaments makes them teetering on the edge at the moment... if they were relying on community tournaments they were banking on the wrong thing because the community is way too fragmented (no primary gathering site other than arguably the official forum) for that sort of thing to work.

We'll see, I guess :/