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God of the Battlefield: Part 1 - Page 20

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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 01:31:46
May 25 2011 01:29 GMT
#381
I read every single word of it and watched every VOD. All I can say is that it gave me goose bumps. Words can't even begin to describe how amazing and mind-blowing sAviOr's play was back then. He was an artist, a surgeon, he was Richard fucking Wagner.

I've said it already and I will say it again. No matter what he's done, Ma Jae Yoon not playing this game competitively anymore is a huge loss for everyone who enjoys watching good Starcraft. If he had just focused solely on winning games like he did in the old days instead of fixing matches I'm pretty sure he would have come back to his former glory.

There is one thing I have to admit however... at some points in those VODs I can't help but think "if Flash had controlled that army he would have rolled him". I say this as a Flash fan of course, but I say it as an even bigger sAviOr fan. The OP brings up an interesting point though when he talks about forcing critical mistakes on your opponent. When it comes to sAviOr you never know what mistakes he might or might not have forced even on someone like Flash.

What truly saddens me is that we will never know. A Bo5 between sAviOr and Flash at their respective peaks would be my dream come true in terms of Starcraft.

Edit: I almost forgot - THANK YOU for this amazing read.
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
maga33
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States247 Posts
May 25 2011 01:29 GMT
#382
Great read, thank you very much
The victorious strategist only seeks battle after the victory has been won, whereas he who is destined to defeat first fights and afterwards looks for victory.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 25 2011 01:30 GMT
#383
Oh man, finally finished it.

Guessing pt 2 is is zvp!
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ZergMaestro
Profile Joined January 2011
United States169 Posts
May 25 2011 01:31 GMT
#384
I have to get my "fuck bisu" in.


Fuck bisu.
Ma Jae Yoon #1. The ONLY Maestro. Effort.
ChezGod
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States590 Posts
May 25 2011 01:32 GMT
#385
Excellent read
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 01:41:55
May 25 2011 01:35 GMT
#386
Wow what a very long article. I lost a lot of time reading it and I'm not even a Savior fan
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but it was worth it . Can't wait for EffOrt's comeback
Thanks for working hard writing this article(and waiting for a year to release it)!
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Jacko11
Profile Joined November 2010
China146 Posts
May 25 2011 01:36 GMT
#387
Incrediable writeup! Savior was my second favorite player right behind July and reading his post brings back so many memories! I will see if I can't incorparate some of Savior's SC1 tatics to SC2
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 25 2011 01:39 GMT
#388
On May 25 2011 10:29 Mooncat wrote:

What truly saddens me is that we will never know. A Bo5 between sAviOr and Flash at their respective peaks would be my dream come true in terms of Starcraft.

Edit: I almost forgot - THANK YOU for this amazing read.


yes.
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Drock
Profile Joined October 2010
United States305 Posts
May 25 2011 01:40 GMT
#389
Amazing article, makes me wish I knew about pro starcraft years ago. I'm excited for when this kind of thing happens in pro SC2.
I kinda miss Idra...
Sigrun
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1655 Posts
May 25 2011 01:42 GMT
#390
Sick read, and even sicker graphics.

Savior was the player who got me into the pro scene and got me into playing Zerg, so despite his wrongdoings, it's hard to deny that he was an extraordinary player.
Graphics
Krehlmar
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1149 Posts
May 25 2011 01:45 GMT
#391
On May 25 2011 10:40 Drock wrote:
Amazing article, makes me wish I knew about pro starcraft years ago. I'm excited for when this kind of thing happens in pro SC2.

Never been an uber BW fan or anything but I sometimes fear it might not come to that in a very long while.
Since Kespa isn't putting slave rights unto the players anymore everyone seems to be practicing SC2 much more casually. I am glad the players are not as strained and can enjoy/relax abit more but as a spectator I want the best games there can be.
An example of this is how westerners are way to casual in their practice in comparison; a big reason why no foreigner ever really made it in korea.
Ofcourse the game is being figured out and all that but until the prize pools begin becoming so insanely great that the players themselves really WANT to practice 12 hours a day everyday to earn their money within 6 years and then retire; The level of SC2 games will just not be comparable.
My Comment Doesnt Matter Because No One Reads It
malady
Profile Joined November 2010
United States600 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-25 01:46:32
May 25 2011 01:46 GMT
#392
ah people make mistakes and get caught up in life


i still love you savior no matter what kespa says
dumchu
Zerkaszhan
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada120 Posts
May 25 2011 01:46 GMT
#393
fucking love you OP your rad . sAviOr i miss you T_T
here comes the swarm
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
May 25 2011 01:46 GMT
#394
Great read. I now know a little bit of brood war history, thanks
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 25 2011 01:47 GMT
#395
God dammit Savior, why'd you have to do the scandal T_T
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0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
May 25 2011 01:48 GMT
#396
Such an awesome read. Sadly, I got into bw right as bisu was on the rise :/

As a fellow zerg player, I'm always reminded of what I missed when I read about Savior's play. Regardless, it's epic to read about what he did and how far ahead of everyone he was.
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
May 25 2011 01:50 GMT
#397
I remember when I was first getting into Pro BW and I had only heard of Boxer...and my friends were talking about the best progamer and I was all obnoxiously like "SLAYERSZZZZZBOXER??!?" and they were like stfu its fucken Savior.

Good times good times.

Great article.
Umbrella
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Taiwan936 Posts
May 25 2011 01:52 GMT
#398
I logged on to say this is one of the best articles I've ever read. My top one would probably be Tribal Colors, but this one has incredible analysis and length.

It makes me miss the sAviOr days. The pro-scene now isn't as interesting as his domination and his painful fall (although it's definitely not bad). I remembered watching every sAviOr game to see if he'd ever find a resurgence in him.

Also, no more Hwasin vs. sAviOr. =/

Again, amazing Final Edit.
Orphen
Profile Joined December 2010
United States101 Posts
May 25 2011 01:53 GMT
#399
Very epic article! half-way through it! ><
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
May 25 2011 01:56 GMT
#400
The greatest crime of the matchfixing scandal was not that it happened, but that the Savior got caught up in it. There'll always be cheaters, but losing Savior was a huge loss that I'm surprised broodwar has surprised. I don't want him to come back but I'm sad he's gone. Very well written.
Remember Violet.
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