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On August 03 2018 19:57 William paradise wrote:
WCS Montreal home turf think she'll get to finals there.

On August 03 2018 19:58 Elmonti wrote:
That game 5 might have been the worst throw in her career... all those hydras/lings just sitting there like 30 feets away from Classic's unprotected 3rd...

Well, GG. She played good series overall, nothing to be ashamed when loosing to Classic 2-3... but that hurt




Maybe we should lower our expectations towards that tournament...

On August 03 2018 20:10 William paradise wrote:


Why would you ever put lower exceptions in ones mind. We should always go into any believing championship why chase lower then first.

On August 03 2018 20:27 Elmonti wrote:


Oh, I wasn't talking about yours specifically. There are people who gets really dissapointed when those very high expectations don't get fullfilled, so maybe the solution is to lower them and be realistic. You can keep cheering hard for someone and hoping her the best while enjoying the results more, maybe? So I was more like making an out loud reflexion.

I mean, really hoping her to make it to the finals, and being realistic about the possible results is not contradictory, right? That's my position in fact...

On August 03 2018 21:05 William paradise wrote:


No its not contradictory and probably most people will say that makes alot of reasonable sense. I just go into with a different mind set I never see her losing of course it happens but before it does it doesn't enter into thought.

On August 03 2018 19:58 Elmonti wrote:
That game 5 might have been the worst throw in her career... all those hydras/lings just sitting there like 30 feets away from Classic's unprotected 3rd...

Well, GG. She played good series overall, nothing to be ashamed when loosing to Classic 2-3... but that hurt




Maybe we should lower our expectations towards that tournament...

On August 03 2018 22:19 Seeker wrote:

If you are joking about this, then please don't. It is not funny and TL takes suicide statements very seriously.

If you are not joking about this, then please seek professional help. I'm not sure what's going on with you and Scarlett but I assure you that whatever happened is not worth taking your life over.

On August 04 2018 00:19 flying382 wrote:



"Seek professional help?" Would it really help me out????????????

On August 03 2018 23:59 brickrd wrote:
worst throw in her career? eh, it's not even a throw that she didn't go into the third, just a missed opportunity and stellar defense by classic. there are missed opportunities in every game, even between top players.

that map has a high ground third, so she has to go up a ramp not knowing if classic warped in any more units there. there could be storms, zealots or even a sentry on the high ground. if she commits only a few units she might lose them, and if she commits the whole army she doesn't get a guaranteed kill on the nexus because it was an extremely close and low supply fight, and she also gives classic time to regroup and rebuild his gas units when she was specifically trying to win trades by resetting those units. she also had a very limited amount of hydras, it wasn't mass hydra ling bane, it was like ~10 hydra with mass ling and a few unupgraded banelings behind them

you watch and you think "just go into the third," but scarlett is trying to micro the attack to kill classic's units. classic is a world-class protoss, so you have to imagine the majority of protoss die in that situation and scarlett feels like she can push through and win by destroying the army. but classic's micro and army movements were really good. don't forget that she did eventually flood lings into the unprotected main, but classic already had archons ready to shuttle from the natural to the third in the warp prism, which was clearly something he had practiced on that map and was ready to do - not just a reflex

i do agree there were certainly a few moments where 5-10 lings split into the third could have cleared most of classic's probes (he had about 10 there) but way more happened in that game than scarlett not attacking the third. she was still in it for a long time, and then she made muta against a high tech protoss who had no viable expansions, which i think you can say is questionable

dunno if scarlett reads here these days, but i'd be curious to see what her thoughts are on that fight. to be honest if i were her i wouldn't be ashamed of that fight at all, she almost blew down classic's door and came up a bit short. attacking a korean is hard.

On August 04 2018 00:21 brickrd wrote:

hey bro, if you're not just a troll account... whatever's going on, there is definitely help out there for you, but your comments about scarlett seem really inappropriate and strange. you should probably focus on yourself and not her, you are gonna dig yourself a hole fast with this

On August 04 2018 01:20 Elmonti wrote:



I do really think it was a throw. Being way far ahead of opponents (at one point she was 40-10 in army supply) and due to your own decisions (Classic didn't do anything to avoid her scouting his third, he was just warping a couple of units behind his natural's wall, I bet thinking about tiping "gg") not closing the game and letting him come back is what I feel the definition of "throw" is.

Her own decisions were responsible: not killing his 3rd made her not win the game, and switching to mutas made her lose it.

Don't get me wrong, Im not calling her out or anything, jist talking about why that game went to Classic. I agree with you that the best players throw games sometimes. They have done it, they do it and they will do it. Same for Scarlett, shit happens, so move on and keep practicing, results will come.

What I think is undeniable is that she has stepped up her gameplay in the last month or so. She's not killing it like in February, but definitely much better than a couple or 3 months ago. So I am optimistic too for Montreal

On August 04 2018 01:27 William paradise wrote:

Ok yea i can see where you can say she threw it same can be said by pick any sports l take the patriots when they lost the superbowl to the giants the backfield missed a play they lost came back and won next time.

On August 04 2018 02:24 Elmonti wrote:



Well, since I'm European I'll try my best to understand your comparison and reply. In case that backfield made the play, the referee had stopped the game right away and given the victory to your Patriots then yes, it would be the same (I'm not sure if I phrased that correctly). Scarlett didn't try to make the play and missed the pass or the opponent intercepted the ball (Classic couldn't defend it), she just didn't try to make the winner play, and while Classic was knocked down on the grass she decided to make a degensive play...

I assume that you don't consider the "throw" concept as something that exists? Or what would be your definition of "throw?

On August 03 2018 22:00 flying382 wrote:
today I was too greedy. I lost Scarlett I was abandoned by Scarlett I really want to apologize to her. There is no reason to live in this world now. I don't know why I have to live anymore...

On August 04 2018 08:53 blunderfulguy wrote:
I think calling it a throw is overkill and, as has been said, ignores too much of everything going on in that game. The entrance to the third, the number of Zealots at her distant bases (and how ridiculously far away those bases were), the Phoenix count, and the generally great defense by Classic. But the "Player A was in control of most of the game or ahead in resources or map control then Player B won" definition of the term throw is not one I agree with, nor the definition along the lines of "PA was ahead and didn't do everything 100% correctly and PB won," nor do I agree that pressure should be put on every player to always have full information when they're ahead otherwise they're throwing the game.

My definition of throw, since we're still on the subject, is something along the lines of: PA is ahead and makes a poor decision or mistake or series of poor decisions and/or mistakes (based on the information they have at that time) which directly leads to PB winning the game.

Not making a correct decision or not making a great play is very, very different from making an incorrect decision or making a bad play, and letting the former overshadow all of the correct decisions and/or great plays is what I feel throwing around the term "throw" does most of the time with all the other connotations/definitions people have.

To me it wasn't disappointing or sad "cuz she threw," I don't believe she did, it was disappointing and sad because from our perspective she was so, so close to winning the series and I feel that she deserved to with how solid her victories were throughout that series and in her last few series (especially against Serral).

*Also Protoss, to be honest. For me, Force Fields will always make for disappointing, unsatisfying victories when used effectively and make for shallow losses when used poorly.