The NonY Fan Club - Page 80

On August 14 2011 09:08 Faranth wrote:


I would like to cut these sorts of remarks off at the pass before they begin to build up by explaining, in part, the nature of major depressive disorder and why these sorts of comments, though well intended, are not particularly helpful.

Colloquially, depression is used to describe someone who is feeling "down", for whatever reason. Often it is used synonymously with sadness. There are a number of things that differentiate MDD from melancholy, but I will address (at least for the moment) only one key point:

When you are suffering from MDD, you cannot simply "get over it", regardless of your circumstances. This disease (and I use the term very deliberately) is crippling and cannot simply be thought away. A multimillionaire with every want satisfied can be in just as much psychological pain as someone who is unfortunate and has nothing to his or her name when dealing with MDD. Conventional wisdom about what affects emotional valence is inadequate to address the effects of depression on the individual.

So, despite having what might appear to another person as a wonderful life, one can still feel utterly empty and miserable. This symptom is part of why depression ranks among the worst diseases to have. Thus, asking someone to "be happier" can actually make them feel worse, as it can lead to guilt and stress over their inability to do just that.

I would also like to address the use of drugs as a treatment for MDD, given that the poster to whom I am responding mentioned it. To take drugs as a treatment for depression is by no means a perfect or even effective solution for many. Personally, I am not comfortable in the slightest with taking pills to mitigate my depression, despite hitting many suicidal lows. Its efficacy is not guaranteed, and the side effects can be devastating. Moreover, to take pills might do little more than mask the symptoms, which can be convenient but does not orient the individual towards considering or making changes to their life that might help prevent future episodes of depression or make an episode more bearable.

In saying all of this I do not mean to presume about Nony's depression and how he manages it. Every individual dealing with this serious disease is affected in different ways, and I am not an expert on depression, but I thought I would offer some of my knowledge and experience. Once again, I wish only the best for Nony, and will continue to watch his games ardently.

A video for those who wish to learn more about MDD, from an actual expert in the field:
Dr. Robert Saplosky's Stanford Lecture On Depression

On August 14 2011 12:56 Oreo7 wrote:
the more i think about this the sadder i get. did he leave korea because of this too? shit man, what a terrible thing.

On August 14 2011 13:13 darklight54321 wrote:
I am very upset that tyler is using a depressive disorder as an excuse to lash out at others. It could easily be used to explain the lackluster performances, but as a sufferer and attempted earlier in my life i find it an insult when a thing like this is used as a blanket excuse.

I was diagnosed the BD (behavioral disorder) when i was 5, which in a public school system is a death sentence. No matter what you do, teachers will never trust you, never treat you as the same. In truth, i had aspergers, as diagnosed later on in my life. I suffered through depression most of my early life, which is debilitating in a kid as it is for no adult. It wasn't until highschool that I ever fully recovered from it. During this time I fortunately had a teacher parent who was able to force me into situations so I never became stagnant, as i'm sure tyler has in his wife a person who can do the same. The very presence of a helping hand like that is the biggest counter (ha, using sc2 terminology, oh so funny) to depression. ALl this tourn a round though, became nullified when i was forced to drop out of college because of a recurring depresion. For 2 months, i was inside a dorm room the size of a living room, with a run to get 2 two-liters and some ramen normally once a week being not only my one outside contact, but my only source of food or drink. I was unable get off the couch most of the time, meaning i slept on a love seat tight inbetween two walls which is very tough when you over 6'. It was all meaningless, attempted suicide several times.


The point of this whole sob story. during those two months whenever i saw a person, talked to a person, or anything, i didn't lash out at them. When your feeling hurt, don't blame it on others. Someone calls you out? Explain it, but don't do what has become a prevalent thing in this community and use it as a blanket excuse for anything and everything. You are lucky, you still have a family to take care of you. My only family left is a failing aunt and father and a mom whom we cant stand the sight of each other. Then there is the drug dealing brother who lives 4-5 states away.

Yeah, and you have it fucking tough.

On August 14 2011 13:13 darklight54321 wrote:
I am very upset that tyler is using a depressive disorder as an excuse to lash out at others. It could easily be used to explain the lackluster performances, but as a sufferer and attempted earlier in my life i find it an insult when a thing like this is used as a blanket excuse.

I was diagnosed the BD (behavioral disorder) when i was 5, which in a public school system is a death sentence. No matter what you do, teachers will never trust you, never treat you as the same. In truth, i had aspergers, as diagnosed later on in my life. I suffered through depression most of my early life, which is debilitating in a kid as it is for no adult. It wasn't until highschool that I ever fully recovered from it. During this time I fortunately had a teacher parent who was able to force me into situations so I never became stagnant, as i'm sure tyler has in his wife a person who can do the same. The very presence of a helping hand like that is the biggest counter (ha, using sc2 terminology, oh so funny) to depression. ALl this tourn a round though, became nullified when i was forced to drop out of college because of a recurring depresion. For 2 months, i was inside a dorm room the size of a living room, with a run to get 2 two-liters and some ramen normally once a week being not only my one outside contact, but my only source of food or drink. I was unable get off the couch most of the time, meaning i slept on a love seat tight inbetween two walls which is very tough when you over 6'. It was all meaningless, attempted suicide several times.


The point of this whole sob story. during those two months whenever i saw a person, talked to a person, or anything, i didn't lash out at them. When your feeling hurt, don't blame it on others. Someone calls you out? Explain it, but don't do what has become a prevalent thing in this community and use it as a blanket excuse for anything and everything. You are lucky, you still have a family to take care of you. My only family left is a failing aunt and father and a mom whom we cant stand the sight of each other. Then there is the drug dealing brother who lives 4-5 states away.

Yeah, and you have it fucking tough.