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On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA
Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up.
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IdrA, god mother fucking fuck. You are the reason i watch pro-sc2. Literally, I never imagined an American would be good enough to compete, and, for a while, you were. Gah. You even played well enough to win yesterday, you just got in your own way. This is an end of my starcraft romance. I wish you well
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On May 10 2013 08:10 Teton wrote:Today is a sad day 
Wrong. Maybe it's the better day for Gregory Fields to ask himselft and finally think about his future.
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I think this might be the downfall of the EG team, as many people already have mentioned here a lot of fans come from watching idra. Stephano is going to retire soon as well
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On May 10 2013 08:14 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:01 skylarr wrote:
smart move EG, you will soon realize half of your supporters came from IdrA For good reasons?
The thread got 42 games in less than 1 hour, 10k people viewing sotg when the news is out, and evil geniuses website crashed upon this happening. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the attention idra attracts with whatever he does. In fact I would say EG needed IdrA more than IdrA needed EG
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On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up.
Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it
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On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it
A team like quantic or millennium can pick him up and get a shit load of more supporters with an instant even if he isnt performing well. Most of EG's supporters came from watching IdrA if anything.
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On May 10 2013 08:14 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:01 skylarr wrote:
smart move EG, you will soon realize half of your supporters came from IdrA For good reasons?
That and also Stephano is more popular than Idra, so by that logic alone they wouldn't lose half of their supporters
And of course while Incontrol doesn't put up results, he is a very popular streamer and don't forget the powerhouse that is Demuslim...Thorzain and of course the DONG (though on rental so we'll see how that ends up)
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On May 10 2013 08:18 skylarr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:14 Agathon wrote:On May 10 2013 08:01 skylarr wrote:
smart move EG, you will soon realize half of your supporters came from IdrA For good reasons? The thread got 42 games in less than 1 hour, 10k people viewing sotg when the news is out, and evil geniuses website crashed upon this happening. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the attention idra attracts with whatever he does. In fact I would say EG needed IdrA more than IdrA needed EG
It might have been so in the past, but currently, I'd say Idra is the one holding them back. The kind of exposure IdrA garners and attracts just isn't worth it anymore I think.
I have a quote from one of the EG management guys: Greg helped us grow in SC2, but now we've outgrown Greg
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He's staying at his girlfriend and got money saved, he can probably find a deal that temporary satisfies him
I strongly believe there are teams that are wanting to grab him
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This is kind of sad, but hopefully it can be a wake up call to him to change his attitude. Can't wait to see what he does next.
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On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it
Teams got Naniwa and Nerchio....
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On May 10 2013 08:21 Valon wrote:
This is kind of sad, but hopefully it can be a wake up call to him to change his attitude. Can't wait to see what he does next.
he wont change, he's been like that since bw days
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On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it
I think he is good enough. He hasn't shown it in way to many games, but look at game 1 against Polt. For the first 15-20 minutes of that game IdrA looked amazing. BATMAN QUOTES: "The night is darkest just before the dawn" (god i hope i didn't mess that up.
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On May 10 2013 08:22 Agathon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it Teams got Naniwa and Nerchio....
They have much better results and less controversy.
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On May 10 2013 08:21 skylarr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it A team like quantic or millennium can pick him up and get a shit load of more supporters with an instant even if he isnt performing well. Most of EG's supporters came from watching IdrA if anything.
I'm pretty sure Idra was one of the top5 paid pro gamers in the western world(In sc2 at least). I'm pretty sure it's safe to say that no one has the wallet AND the will/patience to pay him that much money when all he can do is stream. Without EG's media skills, they can't even profit off of him through that, and I know for a fact it's safe to say that EG's media team is the best in SC2
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On May 10 2013 08:23 HotGlueGun wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:22 Agathon wrote:On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it Teams got Naniwa and Nerchio.... They have much better results and less controversy.
Naniwa controversy is piles bigger than Idras
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On May 10 2013 08:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:23 HotGlueGun wrote:On May 10 2013 08:22 Agathon wrote:On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke. Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that. Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up. Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it Teams got Naniwa and Nerchio.... They have much better results and less controversy. Naniwa controversy is piles bigger than Idras
It's getting pretty equal when you take into consideration everything that happened between Demuslim and Idra, and that recent post where IdrA called the entire community a bunch of shits, and made it look like EG condoned it in some way
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On May 10 2013 08:21 Highcounsel wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 08:14 Agathon wrote:On May 10 2013 08:01 skylarr wrote:
smart move EG, you will soon realize half of your supporters came from IdrA For good reasons? That and also Stephano is more popular than Idra, so by that logic alone they wouldn't lose half of their supporters And of course while Incontrol doesn't put up results, he is a very popular streamer and don't forget the powerhouse that is Demuslim...Thorzain and of course the DONG (though on rental so we'll see how that ends up)
I'm not sure. Idra is an ass, no doubt, but in the same time he's a very popular player. In the show that esport became he might have more added value than you think.
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On May 10 2013 08:02 Lefaa wrote:Show nested quote +On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right? . this is pretty much true, everything they "did" for idra was for marketing. Like when we sent the huge gift basket, eg made awkward video about it rather than let greg enjoy it on his own. And how many times he really went to see psychologist, was it just for that idra could mention it in every interview he gives? Of course its understandable, EG is a company and its goal is to make money, but i dont think the management really cares about their players. Edit. and its understandable that eg relased idra, but its also stupid to say that EG tried everything.
Wha..the..fckin..SERIOUSLY!? Conspiracy theorists on esports, now I've seen it all. What do you say to someone like this?
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