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skylarr
Profile Joined May 2013
Canada209 Posts
May 09 2013 23:27 GMT
#55841
CJ ENTUS RETURN? LEGOOO
Facultyadjutant
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Sweden1876 Posts
May 09 2013 23:30 GMT
#55842
On May 10 2013 08:26 Aocowns wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:24 Facultyadjutant wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:23 HotGlueGun wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:22 Agathon wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:18 Aocowns wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:16 EmNGiantNome wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:59 Aocowns wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think


You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right?

EG didn't care what he was saying until their sponsors started to send them some emails, and now they had to release him. This is joke.

Are you buttfucking retarded? THEY HIRED A SPORTS PSYCHOLOGIST TO TRY AND HELP HIM. They can deal with fucking bad mannering online, he's been doing that for years, but then he started being a dick to teammates as well, and you can only carry it so far. They have done everything in their power to keep him relevant, I mean, do you have any IDEA how hard that would be? I am fully confident that no other team than EG would have been able to turn something bad into something that can be considered good like that.

Give me one rational argument for EG to keep IdrA


Well he is the most popular and controversial on the planet. He has the most watched Starcraft 2 match of all time (against boxer, it hit 175k i believe). He brings attention of all kinds to the team. Anyone who picks him up is going to get instant exposure. EG still has Stephano, and IncontroL, but i'm not sure any other player on the team brings nearly the amount of exposure that IdrA did. Maybe thats not a good argument as EG is doing quite well, however it is sure as hell a great argument for another group to pick him up.

Controversial just isn't gonna cut it. Until he gets the desire to improve and get good enough to back himself up a bit, he's not going to get picked up by a new team I think. There's no one with a big enough wallet and patience to pick him up the way I see it


Teams got Naniwa and Nerchio....


They have much better results and less controversy.


Naniwa controversy is piles bigger than Idras

It's getting pretty equal when you take into consideration everything that happened between Demuslim and Idra, and that recent post where IdrA called the entire community a bunch of shits, and made it look like EG condoned it in some way


Hmm, well they got two different sort of controversies, Naniwa has been trading teams in and out and done some really stupid things

Idra has a controversy by passively over a long period of time doing minor controversial things, however today was a step over the line too far.


In the position of new teams I like Idras' controversy better.
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
May 09 2013 23:35 GMT
#55843
Anyone have some proper old-school Idra VoDs? If you have links please Pm me! I wish to drown my sorrows with my memories
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sqorpion
Profile Joined October 2011
Denmark384 Posts
May 09 2013 23:36 GMT
#55844
On May 10 2013 08:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Anyone have some proper old-school Idra VoDs? If you have links please Pm me! I wish to drown my sorrows with my memories

No, post them here instead
"Until the very, very top, in almost anything all that matters, is how much work you put in. The only problem is that most people can't work hard even at things they do enjoy, much less things they don't have a real passion for." - Greg "IdrA" Fields
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 23:37:55
May 09 2013 23:36 GMT
#55845
On May 10 2013 08:27 Jimz1469 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:02 Lefaa wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think


You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right?
.


this is pretty much true, everything they "did" for idra was for marketing. Like when we sent the huge gift basket, eg made awkward video about it rather than let greg enjoy it on his own. And how many times he really went to see psychologist, was it just for that idra could mention it in every interview he gives? Of course its understandable, EG is a company and its goal is to make money, but i dont think the management really cares about their players.

Edit. and its understandable that eg relased idra, but its also stupid to say that EG tried everything.



Wha..the..fckin..SERIOUSLY!? Conspiracy theorists on esports, now I've seen it all. What do you say to someone like this?


What it isnt any conspiracy theory? We dont really know how many times he saw the psychologist and he only kept mentioning it for about under a month and havent mentioned that after that short period. It really doesnt help if you just see the psychologist for a couple of times you cant change your attitude in couple of hours, you need months, even years and eg/he obviously didnt want to continue meeting that long. Imo it just seems marketing and showing "how eg is cool for its players, buy our stuff"-stunt.

but this is pretty silly thing to discuss cos we dont know anything about it. I just mentioned it, cos it seemed to fit to my post
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27207 Posts
May 09 2013 23:38 GMT
#55846
On May 10 2013 08:36 Sqorpion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:35 Wombat_NI wrote:
Anyone have some proper old-school Idra VoDs? If you have links please Pm me! I wish to drown my sorrows with my memories

No, post them here instead

Well, better idea actually
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Teton
Profile Joined May 2010
France1656 Posts
May 09 2013 23:40 GMT
#55847
On May 10 2013 08:18 skylarr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:14 Agathon wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:01 skylarr wrote:
smart move EG, you will soon realize half of your supporters came from IdrA


For good reasons?

The thread got 42 games in less than 1 hour, 10k people viewing sotg when the news is out, and evil geniuses website crashed upon this happening. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the attention idra attracts with whatever he does. In fact I would say EG needed IdrA more than IdrA needed EG


I agree with you my cs:go friend
Jimz1469
Profile Joined May 2012
116 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 23:41:50
May 09 2013 23:41 GMT
#55848
On May 10 2013 08:36 Lefaa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:27 Jimz1469 wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:02 Lefaa wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think


You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right?
.


this is pretty much true, everything they "did" for idra was for marketing. Like when we sent the huge gift basket, eg made awkward video about it rather than let greg enjoy it on his own. And how many times he really went to see psychologist, was it just for that idra could mention it in every interview he gives? Of course its understandable, EG is a company and its goal is to make money, but i dont think the management really cares about their players.

Edit. and its understandable that eg relased idra, but its also stupid to say that EG tried everything.



Wha..the..fckin..SERIOUSLY!? Conspiracy theorists on esports, now I've seen it all. What do you say to someone like this?


What it isnt any conspiracy theory? We dont really know how many times he saw the psychologist and he only kept mentioning it for about under a month and havent mentioned that after that short period. It really doesnt help if you just see the psychologist for a couple of times you cant change your attitude in couple of hours, you need months, even years and eg/he obviously didnt want to continue meeting that long. Imo it just seems marketing and showing "how eg is cool for its players, buy our stuff"-stunt.


You think management sends people to see a sports psychologist for marketing isn't a conspiracy? You think during that MLG when Idra and...was it boxer or MKP played and management went into his booth for a caring peptalk when it was hella close that they did it for marketing? What can I say, think what you want. That was clearly human, that was kindness, decency and caring, but what ever, to some people the whole world has to be about money above humanity because either you yourself are like that or you know too many people that are and can't see passed it. They may not be the loudest, but there are decent people in this world, even decent rich and successful people.
MstrJinbo
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1251 Posts
May 09 2013 23:42 GMT
#55849
Regardless of everything else, I'm still a fan. Best of luck to you IdrA.
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
May 09 2013 23:43 GMT
#55850
On May 10 2013 08:41 Jimz1469 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2013 08:36 Lefaa wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:27 Jimz1469 wrote:
On May 10 2013 08:02 Lefaa wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:55 whereismymind wrote:
On May 10 2013 07:51 Aocowns wrote:
Don't hate EG for Idra's shortcomings, that's just getting silly. EG did absolutely everything they could, I mean none of us can imagine how hard it must be to work with a personality like Idra. EG has their reasons, and they are completely justified in doing this I think


You serious? They did absolutely everything for their MARKETING. Do you think if they told him to not say "f" word on the stream he would? You are joking me right?
.


this is pretty much true, everything they "did" for idra was for marketing. Like when we sent the huge gift basket, eg made awkward video about it rather than let greg enjoy it on his own. And how many times he really went to see psychologist, was it just for that idra could mention it in every interview he gives? Of course its understandable, EG is a company and its goal is to make money, but i dont think the management really cares about their players.

Edit. and its understandable that eg relased idra, but its also stupid to say that EG tried everything.



Wha..the..fckin..SERIOUSLY!? Conspiracy theorists on esports, now I've seen it all. What do you say to someone like this?


What it isnt any conspiracy theory? We dont really know how many times he saw the psychologist and he only kept mentioning it for about under a month and havent mentioned that after that short period. It really doesnt help if you just see the psychologist for a couple of times you cant change your attitude in couple of hours, you need months, even years and eg/he obviously didnt want to continue meeting that long. Imo it just seems marketing and showing "how eg is cool for its players, buy our stuff"-stunt.


You think management sends people to see a sports psychologist for marketing isn't a conspiracy? You think during that MLG when Idra and...was it boxer or MKP played and management went into his booth for a caring peptalk when it was hella close that they did it for marketing? .


that was sirscoots, he is different and he is not in EG anymore.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 09 2013 23:44 GMT
#55851
As I posted in the release announcement thread, I don't believe the official reasons for releasing Greg. That comment on TL wasn't anything special, quite mild from IdrA. And quite a few people agreed with the point, it was merely the tone that was off (hence the 2day temp ban rather than perm, 90 days or whatever he usually gets). So the real reasons are somewhere else.

I'd probably say it's the restructuring of EG as a Korean competition focused organisation (to see whether this prediction is correct, let's see what happens to Machine, Incontrol and, let's be honest here, Demuslim). There might have also been internal conflicts or a dip in viewers.

I also don't think we should be too worried about this here in the fan club. There is no world in which IdrA will not remain in Esports. He is still better than the vast majority of people, he is probably the best known Starcraft 2 player of all time (thanks to being known among people that don't follow the scene too much) and he is articulate (even when telling people off), which makes him great for interviews, stirring up trouble, discussing the game and related events and more. For example, I cannot imagine ITG being half as popular without IdrA there. Incontrol is fun and all, but IdrA makes it.

In conclusion, fan reporting for duty. EG can go do their thing in their little corner, I'll stay right here.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Lefaa
Profile Joined January 2012
Finland313 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-09 23:50:12
May 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#55852
[image loading]

this is for all of you who are sad. Think this as a new start. idra will born again from the ashes like a phoenix!
Crake_
Profile Joined March 2011
United States74 Posts
May 09 2013 23:47 GMT
#55853
still a FAN
High[5]
Profile Joined August 2011
United States61 Posts
May 09 2013 23:51 GMT
#55854
On May 10 2013 08:47 Lefaa wrote:
[image loading]

this is for all of you who are sad. Think this as a new start. idra will born again from the ashes like a phoenix!

This. This makes me happy. (:
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
May 09 2013 23:51 GMT
#55855
On April 29 2013 11:30 smOOthMayDie wrote:
I have a feeling Alex Garfield won't renew idrA's contract... and that they're going to pick up another (korean) zerg, and pick up another terran



quoting myself
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MadProbe
Profile Joined February 2012
United States269 Posts
May 09 2013 23:51 GMT
#55856
EG's loss.
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
May 09 2013 23:51 GMT
#55857
Nice one Lefaa ^^
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Jimz1469
Profile Joined May 2012
116 Posts
May 09 2013 23:54 GMT
#55858
On May 10 2013 08:47 Lefaa wrote:
[image loading]

this is for all of you who are sad. Think this as a new start. idra will born again from the ashes like a phoenix!


Nice! I hope you're right. Would be a great waste for him to drop off the grid.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
May 09 2013 23:55 GMT
#55859
Until Idra's officially 'quit' SC2 I'll still be following him. I'm not about to jump into the ocean just because the ship's developed a serious list.
Johnny_Vegas
Profile Joined December 2007
United States239 Posts
May 09 2013 23:58 GMT
#55860
IdrA we still believe!
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