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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 06:00:28
July 26 2013 06:00 GMT
#97281
On July 26 2013 14:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 14:49 DystopiaX wrote:
they're not really competing directly with each other

But you're taking hype/eyes off f(x); also removing chances of winning mu shows.

SM has too many artists to just have one promote at a time. Do that and you have fans whining about no SNSD comeback, no Suju comeback, no TVXQ comeback. It's not like they're Chrome or DSP or whoever where they only have 1-4 artists so they can rotate them in and out every 2 months or so.

and everyone, including SM, knows that winning music shows means literally nothing.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
July 26 2013 06:06 GMT
#97282
It's not like SM can't just pay to have them both win at different times.
twitch.tv/cratonz
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
July 26 2013 06:06 GMT
#97283
On July 26 2013 15:00 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 14:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 26 2013 14:49 DystopiaX wrote:
they're not really competing directly with each other

But you're taking hype/eyes off f(x); also removing chances of winning mu shows.

SM has too many artists to just have one promote at a time. Do that and you have fans whining about no SNSD comeback, no Suju comeback, no TVXQ comeback. It's not like they're Chrome or DSP or whoever where they only have 1-4 artists so they can rotate them in and out every 2 months or so.

and everyone, including SM, knows that winning music shows means literally nothing.

Maybe true enough; but I figured spacing would do wonders; especially considering how much international stuff SNSD/TVXQ are tied up with right now. Exo repackage so fast though... literally a month after Wolf.
liftlift > tsm
Hall0wed
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
July 26 2013 06:11 GMT
#97284
At least Shinee, TTS, and DBSK all still have comebacks to come later this year, gotta fit things in somewhere. One of the reasons EXO released Wolf as a title track was to grab attention, positive or not, and so now they follow it right up with a track that hopefully attracts positive attention from the general public. SM may seem dumb sometimes but they know enough about what they are doing I think.
♦ My Life for BESTie ♦ 류세라 = 배 ♦
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 26 2013 08:00 GMT
#97285
aoa song is surprisingly good to me, pretty easy to listen to, its gonna be a good song for gaming O.<
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
SojoX
Profile Joined September 2012
United States111 Posts
July 26 2013 15:00 GMT
#97286
On July 26 2013 09:05 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 08:21 SojoX wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Twerking, absolute LOWEST common denominator in dancing. If you could even call it dancing. More akin to pulling off a move in a bedroom. Another issue with having worldwide communication (boy are there some severe pluses and minuses), trash like this gets delivered to the rest of the world.

Exaggeration much?



No not really. Ever see that video of the school kids twerking that got suspended? Pretty disgusting. Imagine your own kid doing it? Not so great. I'm fine with a certain amount of sexiness (and Kpop seems to testing the limits lately) but when you got chicks pulling this move off and uploading it somewhere you've got problems. I personally love how I'm considered exaggerating but go back 5 years and this would have been a freakin scandal. Sometimes that slippery slope does actually exist.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 16:03:56
July 26 2013 16:02 GMT
#97287
This Fiestar thing so cute :3 Cao Lu > else ezpz

Cheska has the same Valley Girl accent as all other American Kpop idols, lol.

Also laughing pretty hard at that Kill Bill teaser, hope the song is good.
It's your boy Guzma!
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 26 2013 16:45 GMT
#97288
On July 26 2013 15:00 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 14:52 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 26 2013 14:49 DystopiaX wrote:
they're not really competing directly with each other

But you're taking hype/eyes off f(x); also removing chances of winning mu shows.

SM has too many artists to just have one promote at a time. Do that and you have fans whining about no SNSD comeback, no Suju comeback, no TVXQ comeback. It's not like they're Chrome or DSP or whoever where they only have 1-4 artists so they can rotate them in and out every 2 months or so.

and everyone, including SM, knows that winning music shows means literally nothing.

well a hollow prize is still a prize, so it doesn't mean literally nothing.
there's still a bit of prestige in triple crowning, etc.
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 18:47:47
July 26 2013 18:47 GMT
#97289
Prestige is overstating it. All you really get is a little extra media exposure.

On July 27 2013 00:00 SojoX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2013 09:05 wei2coolman wrote:
On July 26 2013 08:21 SojoX wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Twerking, absolute LOWEST common denominator in dancing. If you could even call it dancing. More akin to pulling off a move in a bedroom. Another issue with having worldwide communication (boy are there some severe pluses and minuses), trash like this gets delivered to the rest of the world.

Exaggeration much?



No not really. Ever see that video of the school kids twerking that got suspended? Pretty disgusting. Imagine your own kid doing it? Not so great. I'm fine with a certain amount of sexiness (and Kpop seems to testing the limits lately) but when you got chicks pulling this move off and uploading it somewhere you've got problems. I personally love how I'm considered exaggerating but go back 5 years and this would have been a freakin scandal. Sometimes that slippery slope does actually exist.

You really haven't watched much "old" kpop...
twitch.tv/cratonz
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 18:51:31
July 26 2013 18:51 GMT
#97290
On July 27 2013 03:47 Craton wrote:
You really haven't watched much "old" kpop...


This hits the nail right on the head. I'd even say it was "worse" before, action was taken and while I would agree that groups are slowly trying to widen the range of what the government deems acceptable, it is nowhere near the old days stuff.
시크릿 / 씨스타 / 에이핑크 / 윤하 / 가비앤제이
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 26 2013 20:41 GMT
#97291
you sound like one of those old people who wanted Elvis banned from television because he was gyrating his hips.

And kpop is some of the most tame "sexiness" I've ever seen in pop music, seriously it's not even that bad.
Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
July 26 2013 22:19 GMT
#97292
On July 27 2013 03:51 Kaiwa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2013 03:47 Craton wrote:
You really haven't watched much "old" kpop...


This hits the nail right on the head. I'd even say it was "worse" before, action was taken and while I would agree that groups are slowly trying to widen the range of what the government deems acceptable, it is nowhere near the old days stuff.

As someone who has never seen "old" kpop, this begs the question... :O
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 26 2013 22:29 GMT
#97293
must be really old kpop...like 80s or below what u r talkin bout TT; my shinee moment is probably over..yesterday i screamed to shinee songs and had 90% winrate, today with shinee again i lost 99% of my games =( anyone has a good playlist without shinee? i am kinda angry with my playlist right now (and my winning and losing has everything to do with kpop!)

The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 23:21:11
July 26 2013 22:57 GMT
#97294
I mean, I'm all for getting rid of dumb shit like pelvic thrusts or grinding on the floor, but let's not pretend there haven't been just as explicit things going on in the past.

On another ranty note: what the fuck with the surge of high hot pants (the ones that barely cover the crotch, yet go over the belly button). You're treading in the region of the worst possible kind of outfit you could put on stage. Throw some fishnets in with them and you pretty much torpedo any possible attempt at being attractive.
twitch.tv/cratonz
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
July 26 2013 23:11 GMT
#97295
awards arent meaningless they make the group and the fans feel happy and proud or does that not matter
:)
andyrau
Profile Joined December 2010
13015 Posts
July 26 2013 23:32 GMT
#97296
On July 27 2013 07:57 Craton wrote:
I mean, I'm all for getting rid of dumb shit like pelvic thrusts or grinding on the floor, but let's not pretend there haven't been just as explicit things going on in the past.

On another ranty note: what the fuck with the surge of high hot pants (the ones that barely cover the crotch, yet go over the belly button). You're treading in the region of the worst possible kind of outfit you could put on stage. Throw some fishnets in with them and you pretty much torpedo any possible attempt at being attractive.

uhh they're called high waisted shorts
pops I thought you were alive back in the 40s & 80s when they were popular?

On July 27 2013 08:11 unichan wrote:
awards arent meaningless they make the group and the fans feel happy and proud or does that not matter

this is what I was trying to get at
"Zai is legitimately not as good as bulba." | kaipi ti3 champions
shin_toss
Profile Joined May 2010
Philippines2589 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-26 23:46:37
July 26 2013 23:46 GMT
#97297
On another ranty note: what the fuck with the surge of high hot pants (the ones that barely cover the crotch, yet go over the belly button).


I noticed this too, for some time now...naked belly button is still better :D
AKMU / IU
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
July 27 2013 00:03 GMT
#97298
On July 27 2013 08:11 unichan wrote:
awards arent meaningless they make the group and the fans feel happy and proud or does that not matter

Yeah. They might be meaningless to big groups, but not to the smaller ones. It's like a sign of taking off for them. I'd cry a river with Crayon Pop if they ever win one. Hopefully they won't go Rainbow.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
July 27 2013 00:15 GMT
#97299
Craton pop is already taking off, so I could see it happening.
twitch.tv/cratonz
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1791 Posts
July 27 2013 00:59 GMT
#97300
Yeah I would be happy to see Crayon Pop win one too. They're like the silliest but fun underdogs of underworld guerilla kpop.
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