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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:27 Blasterion wrote: Oretsuba + Show Spoiler + .... why is Miyako so genki..... ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/hiu20.jpg) ...omg mood swing ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/pACXN.jpg) Damn it bad end. I guess that's what happens when you are illiterate ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/zEX9c.jpg) Because she's retarded and useless and wasn't even interesting. | ||
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Dingotrold
Denmark622 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:34 Southlight wrote: Because she's retarded and useless and wasn't even interesting. Looks interesting enough to me  | ||
Spazer
Canada8032 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:27 Blasterion wrote: Oretsuba + Show Spoiler + .... why is Miyako so genki..... ...omg mood swing Damn it bad end. I guess that's what happens when you are illiterate lol, what the fuck. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:34 Southlight wrote: Because she's retarded and useless and wasn't even interesting. how do you get Asuka route. I think she knifed me in the bad end | ||
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:32 Sentenal wrote: + Show Spoiler + I'm not arguing whether or not it was good for his character or not. I'm talking from a pure entertainment perspective. It just isn't as entertaining to watch Sousuke mope around a city for several episodes because he had to abandon Chidori. Plus, 'Real Robot MC getting emo over a girl' is pretty generic IMO. + Show Spoiler + They do let it soak in over an extended period of time, which is great. The transition Sousuke undergoes happens gradually, the realization happens gradually and that is how it is presented to us. During this period, the characters are all spot on with their words, it's brilliant. While I can understand the point of it not being "entertaining" I personally think it is still "interesting" and thereby "fascinating" and that is why I "like it". Genericness is never a turnoff for me, my favorite stories are the most generic ones. The execution of this deconstruction of character is what hit me at the right spot. [/opinion, I realize this doesn't hold true for anyone but felt the need to explain myself anyway :V] | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On April 13 2011 22:16 Sentenal wrote: IDK where you got the idea that the show was 100% adapting the LNs or w/e, but are you seriously complaining that it isn't following the LNs word for word? I'm not mad because they aren't following the LNs word for word. I'm mad because they haven't followed a single word from the LN. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On April 13 2011 23:52 MichaelEU wrote: + Show Spoiler + They do let it soak in over an extended period of time, which is great. The transition Sousuke undergoes happens gradually, the realization happens gradually and that is how it is presented to us. During this period, the characters are all spot on with their words, it's brilliant. While I can understand the point of it not being "entertaining" I personally think it is still "interesting" and thereby "fascinating" and that is why I "like it". Genericness is never a turnoff for me, my favorite stories are the most generic ones. The execution of this deconstruction of character is what hit me at the right spot. [/opinion, I realize this doesn't hold true for anyone but felt the need to explain myself anyway :V] + Show Spoiler + It was good development for his character, but it just wasn't as entertaining to watch, as it is when they are having cool mecha battles and stuff. I think we understand what each of us are saying, we just disagree about preferences. On April 13 2011 23:57 Ferrose wrote: I'm not mad because they aren't following the LNs word for word. I'm mad because they haven't followed a single word from the LN. Ferrose, you said that the original stuff in it is good and enjoyable, right? So why are you complaining? And the anime does follow stuff from the LN, so... | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On April 14 2011 00:22 Blasterion wrote: Hey what? Oretsuba doesn't have a music collection player? I am disappoint Except that it does? On April 13 2011 20:08 zalz wrote: Steinsgate episode 2... Still dissapointing. Anyone with half a brain can float a hollow script on a lost-esque approach by doing random nonesense whilst promising that it's all going to make sense. Keeping the plot as vague as possible to cover up the fact it might very well full of holes, the kind people wouldn't watch if they knew what was up. This show even has the setting going for it because i actually wanted to see a Sci-fi but it's still utterly boring and it's lost approach to story telling is tiresome. Going to watch maybe one or two more episodes and if it keeps up then ill presume that it has either a lost plot or it's going to become some techno babble/philosophy nonesense where only the most die-hard fans are left screaming "you don't get it!" at the end. Also, all characters in this show need to get executed. It's telling how in anime the "weird" character itself has become a stereotype. Even the fat hacker is annoying despite slim hopes that i had at the start. I wouldn't mind if this story killed off half the cast, maybe some more then half. Good, stay away from my show if that's seriously what you are thinking. Meh, if you watched chaos;head, you should know what was coming in the first couple of episodes. I have no idea what you are expecting, but so far we are just following the life of a pretty smart guy who has a rather advanced case of 中二病 (Uta how would we translate this). Random nonsense? The only things beyond basic character development has been the banana, the stabbing and the random disappearance of things in Akiba. The banana was even left till the very end of ep2. So...suck it up and sit through an introduction because that's what it is? There isn't a plot yet -.- | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On April 14 2011 00:29 Ecael wrote: Except that it does? Good, stay away from my show if that's seriously what you are thinking. Meh, if you watched chaos;head, you should know what was coming in the first couple of episodes. I have no idea what you are expecting, but so far we are just following the life of a pretty smart guy who has a rather advanced case of 中二病 (Uta how would we translate this). Random nonsense? The only things beyond basic character development has been the banana, the stabbing and the random disappearance of things in Akiba. The banana was even left till the very end of ep2. So...suck it up and sit through an introduction because that's what it is? There isn't a plot yet -.- lol where is it I am not seeing it | ||
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Wala.Revolution
7584 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On the start menu 0.o On April 14 2011 00:43 Wala.Revolution wrote: A (delusional) sense of superiority and uniqueness accompanied by the onset of puberty? That'd kind of be a literal translation, a better one though might be to just look at Okabe, that defines 中二病 | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
Good, stay away from my show if that's seriously what you are thinking. Meh, if you watched chaos;head, you should know what was coming in the first couple of episodes. I have no idea what you are expecting, but so far we are just following the life of a pretty smart guy who has a rather advanced case of 中二病 (Uta how would we translate this). Random nonsense? The only things beyond basic character development has been the banana, the stabbing and the random disappearance of things in Akiba. The banana was even left till the very end of ep2. So...suck it up and sit through an introduction because that's what it is? There isn't a plot yet -.- Why exactly would they need several episodes to build up their plot? You can start on the plot right off the bat and explain it by...you know...telling the story. Right now we are following the life of a boring down-on-his-luck main char that i can see in a dozen of other shows, all equally boring. Why do i have to follow this guys boring life? Either you start with the plot from episode 1 and tell the story or you slap on a tiny pre-arc on the show like FMA did to go ahead and explain a ton right off the bat. Honestly at this point it's allready showing that the creators have an abyssmall taste in pacing and regardless of all that i doubt something happens prevents me from putting these cliche characters up against a wall and calling the firing squad. Would Cowboy Bebop be better if you started the show with 3 episode's of Spike doing the groceries because they had to start it off? These kind of snooze fest openings are tell tale signs of a poor script drafted by a writer that can't figure out a way to combine character introduction and just fixes it by adding a every-day-life episode to toss in a bunch of characters. I like fast paced and i like slow paced but i loathe poorly paced shows like this that just have me watching a slice of life show about a guy that happens to be able to send bananas back in time. I must apologize for making that sound more intresting then it really is. Like i said, i will be watching it for a few more episodes, perhaps the writer is only incompetent at the start of his story but the only way anyone can like these opening episodes is if they are into boring coma inducing anime wich i suppose some might be. It might get better in the future but the show isn't off to a good start. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
I will say, however, the main character is not at all what you think. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
And I want to know these dozen other shows that have a protag who is a MADO SCIENTISTO WHO BRINGS FORTH HORROR AND DESTRUCTION TO THE WORLD. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
On April 14 2011 02:06 zalz wrote: Why exactly would they need several episodes to build up their plot? You can start on the plot right off the bat and explain it by...you know...telling the story. Right now we are following the life of a boring down-on-his-luck main char that i can see in a dozen of other shows, all equally boring. Why do i have to follow this guys boring life? Either you start with the plot from episode 1 and tell the story or you slap on a tiny pre-arc on the show like FMA did to go ahead and explain a ton right off the bat. Honestly at this point it's allready showing that the creators have an abyssmall taste in pacing and regardless of all that i doubt something happens prevents me from putting these cliche characters up against a wall and calling the firing squad. Would Cowboy Bebop be better if you started the show with 3 episode's of Spike doing the groceries because they had to start it off? These kind of snooze fest openings are tell tale signs of a poor script drafted by a writer that can't figure out a way to combine character introduction and just fixes it by adding a every-day-life episode to toss in a bunch of characters. I like fast paced and i like slow paced but i loathe poorly paced shows like this that just have me watching a slice of life show about a guy that happens to be able to send bananas back in time. I must apologize for making that sound more intresting then it really is. Like i said, i will be watching it for a few more episodes, perhaps the writer is only incompetent at the start of his story but the only way anyone can like these opening episodes is if they are into boring coma inducing anime wich i suppose some might be. It might get better in the future but the show isn't off to a good start. Haibane Renmei has 5 episodes of slice of life before the plot starts and pulls it off brilliantly. I haven't seen Stein's gate, but I think you're making too big of a generalization here. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Poor pacing? Ehhh, no. It isn't that the script writer can't figure out a way to combine character introduction with plot, but that he can't. And yes, should Bebop worked like S;G, I'd say that 3 episodes of Spike sitting around doing nothing would be alright. It isn't that day to day episodes are added to introduce the characters, but that it is the only context to introduce the characters that will have any meaning. As for the characters themselves, I'd have to agree with Southlight in that not all of them are that important. The sideplots were nice and definitely contribute to the true route, but they weren't particularly necessary. Nitro is kind of weak on that front, I suppose, the main cast in the games from it tend to be interesting, but a lot of the side characters (having routes or not) simply pale in comparison to the main characters. The 24ep season doesn't help in the matter at all, as they have to work in a lot of the minor stuff in order to get into the side routes. A tighter 15 episode would've probably have done the job easily for just the true route, and it would've been a lot more concentrated, most likely sparing you the slice of life introduction. Though it honestly doesn't help that they managed to get 2 episodes in on less than 30 minutes of reading (probably more if we let the lines all play out fully, incidentally VN had more content). About the only thing you can expect from them is to try to keep a level of tension with the non-slice of life parts, which they did both in ep1 and 2. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
While Daru is extremely cliche, I don't know how you can say the other ones are, especially since most of them have only appeared in one scene. And I want to know these dozen other shows that have a protag who is a MADO SCIENTISTO WHO BRINGS FORTH HORROR AND DESTRUCTION TO THE WORLD. Cliche doesn't mean that a character has not a single unique thought put into it. Ichigo from Bleach is a teenage shinigami with an attitude and a big sword, how many of those can you name? If you zoom in far enough you can call every char unique but in the big picture most of these chars just strike me as uninventive and cliche. The main mad scientist char i would say is pretty much a Vash the Stampede, the kind of main char that is talented and can be serious but for most of the show will act like an idiot. The loveable loser. The air of a character itself can also contribute to how boring and cliche a character is, or how fun he/she is too watch. L from Death Note could have been the boring cliche wanna-be weirdo char (think FF13 Vanille) but he was so well executed he was one of the more intresting characters to graze the fields of anime. Haibane Renmei has 5 episodes of slice of life before the plot starts and pulls it off brilliantly. I haven't seen Stein's gate, but I think you're making too big of a generalization here. Like i said i haven't thrown this show out just yet but the first two episodes have been very bad imo. I allready said ill watch a few more but if this keeps up i really don't see much hope for it. I will be watching a few more eps, it still has the benfit of the doubt but these first two eps have been a waste of my time and didn't keep me hooked at all. If i wasn't hoping for a good sci-fi show i wouldn't even be giving it the benefit of the doubt. I understand that some people believe it will get a lot better based on the VN and on similar shows but for me, someone who has seen nothing before by this group or the VN, i am so far dissapointed. We will see if i have to swallow these words. | ||
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