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Diizzy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States828 Posts
September 23 2013 00:46 GMT
#62121
the lastest AOT and hunterxhunter were pretty good episodes
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 01:54:41
September 23 2013 01:40 GMT
#62122
Just finished Top Wo Nerae

+ Show Spoiler +
I liked it. The main girl Takaya grew a lot, and I was kind of surprised how Jung and Amano turned out, though I have to say I didn't like them so much. The universe needed some work, but that wasn't really the point of the anime. Ending was satisfying, bittersweet yet heartwarming. I actually half expected with all the time dilation science that was going on in the anime that Jung would calculate exactly how long it would take Amano/Takay to come back and warp around the sun for 12k years.....

But that's probably asking for too much, haha.

Oh, and the OST was great! ^^
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EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
September 23 2013 02:22 GMT
#62123
<gAOxI|laptop> looking straight kawaii
<gAOxI|laptop> up in this shit
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Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 23 2013 03:26 GMT
#62124
After lurking TL for random stuff, somehow I ended up downloading Fate Zero (thanks to whoever posted that wallpaper of his about it). I've seen it's a prequel, but I've checked up on it, and the majority of the posters said Fate Silent is shit, and since I won't play a visual novel just to try out a new anime I might drop after 1 episode, I went straight to F/Z. I'm bound to find at least one good fantasy anime if I watch 1,000,000 , right? RIGHT??

Well, I only watched 1 episode yet (40 munites wtf, I didn't know animes were doing such "pilot" episodes), so I can't really comment on the quality just yet. I have absolutely no idea what's going on, but at least after 20 minutes I could figure out that I've been watching three DIFFERENT male's storyline, so that's a start. I was like "how does he change his voi-- OOOOOOOHHH". I'm still confused about the 3 years ago and 1 year ago things, and I have no idea if the child will born 3 years from now, or he/she was born 3 years ago, but screw it, details!

I'm looking forward to it, because it's beautiful (yeah-yeah, it's about the quality blah blah, but I really dig these better drawn, more colourful animes) and looks interesting with all these master-servant relationships and the eventual fights. I'm not even sure who's the good guy, if there's any. Yeah, black haired guy number 2 with his lovely wife seems like our protagonist, but the bug-guy seems more honest after one episode. You know, the one who wants to protect that girl... from that guy... because... I don't know, I could barely read all that stuff, let alone process it, but he's cool, aside from looking like someone who just found out about cocaine.

Howewer, there's one thing I hate and it's not related to the anime. If I'm reading a topic about "should I watch F/Z or F/SN first", I don't want to see comments like "I found F/Z's ending + Show Spoiler +
anti-climatic
". Seriously, I don't mind if someone says it sucks ass or something, but don't be any more specific than that. It's just a joy-killer, especially since it's about that Grail stuff that can grant anything.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 23 2013 03:37 GMT
#62125
What are you even trying to complain about, do you not like when people don't spoiler or something? Because going by what you said, we can use any random adjective to describe F/Z's ending and you can throw a fit.
Mysticesper
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1183 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 03:40:49
September 23 2013 03:38 GMT
#62126
Just watch F/Z and enjoy the ride. It's not hard to not open any website about F/Z or any anime/show/game while you experience it. You don't need to watch FSN first. It might help with some nuances and details, but it explains it well enough. The first episode does a good job at setting up the entire thing, and it gets into more detail as it goes. The novel is translated as well, so you can download and read that too if you wish for more info / background / detail.

F/Z and FSN are akin to starwars (or any prequel situation with a pretty linear time progression) in that if you watched 4-6 before 1-3, you kind of know whats going to happen at the end of 3, even if that was production order, though it's perfectly watchable going 1-6 and not miss any details.
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 03:56:01
September 23 2013 03:49 GMT
#62127
On September 23 2013 12:37 Ecael wrote:
What are you even trying to complain about, do you not like when people don't spoiler or something? Because going by what you said, we can use any random adjective to describe F/Z's ending and you can throw a fit.

Saying it's + Show Spoiler +
anti-climatic
is a spoiler itself. If I come to read whether I should watch F/Z or F/SN first, then I expect people tell me whether I should... *10 minutes of drumroll* watch F/Z or F/SN first. So, there are 2 main problems:
1. I don't care, if that said person liked the ending or not, and especially don'T want to know what he or she did not like about it. The ending doesn't even have to do anything about the main question, which is about continuity, aka "will I understand F/Z if I start with that first?". Who would say then that the ending is not that good?
2. + Show Spoiler +
The anime is about an artifact (or whatever) that grants (supposedly) any wish you want from it. That is endless possibilities, so if someone says it was anti-climatic, that pretty much spoils that I shouldn't expect much. You might say that he was wrong, and it's just his opinion, but I'll still watch close to 25 episodes or so, thinking the ending won't be great.


These are the worst people out there.
- Hey, how's that anime/series/movie?
- Not bad dude, though the ending can be seen from miles away, and it's not too ballsy.
- Thanks man, you just made those precious minutes al lthe more exciting!

As I said, at least phrase it some other way. "It sucks, it's bad, I didn't like it, terrible", whatever, it's still better than giving away what is bad with it. But back to my 1st point: It should not have been mentioned at all.

I can't even stand if I see someone else spoilered, it's like witnessing a robbery.

On September 23 2013 12:38 Mysticesper wrote:
Just watch F/Z and enjoy the ride. It's not hard to not open any website about F/Z or any anime/show/game while you experience it. You don't need to watch FSN first. It might help with some nuances and details, but it explains it well enough. The first episode does a good job at setting up the entire thing, and it gets into more detail as it goes. The novel is translated as well, so you can download and read that too if you wish for more info / background / detail.

F/Z and FSN are akin to starwars (or any prequel situation with a pretty linear time progression) in that if you watched 4-6 before 1-3, you kind of know whats going to happen at the end of 3, even if that was production order, though it's perfectly watchable going 1-6 and not miss any details.

Well, thanks, it was exactly what I wanted to know, and that's why I googled the question. Without any information it's hard to know beforehand - I almost started with Clannad Afterstory back then, but then i googled it as well. It would've been awkward, that every character is crying, and I'd be like "WHO ARE YOU?", haha.

Edit: that being said, I only started clannad because I was watching DBZ vids, and somehow I got to random anime selection videos (top 10 blahblah) and ran into some preeeeeettty big spoilers. So... I guess there are good kind of spoilers as well. No one could've convinced me to start Clannad, because I'd just say "gaaaaay" and turned it down.
KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
September 23 2013 03:53 GMT
#62128
How is knowing how a prequel is going to end (because it's, you know, a prequel; the entire conclusion is already known), thus making it anti-climatic to some, a spoiler?
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 23 2013 03:58 GMT
#62129
On September 23 2013 12:53 KazeHydra wrote:
How is knowing how a prequel is going to end (because it's, you know, a prequel; the entire conclusion is already known), thus making it anti-climatic to some, a spoiler?

As of now, I'm watching it as a standalone anime.
DeltaSigmaL
Profile Joined July 2011
United States205 Posts
September 23 2013 03:59 GMT
#62130
I just finished watching F/SN (watched F/Z 1st btw). F/Z very good in my book. Diverse characters, beautiful animation, pacing, fitting ops/eds.

comparison: no plot spoiler + Show Spoiler +
F/Z is just on another level compared to F/SN. F/SN pretty disappointing in terms of quality of everything


I would recommend watching F/Z and waiting for the new release of F/SN(?) to come out. It'll be made be same studio so more consistent I hope.
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 23 2013 04:05 GMT
#62131
People may disagree on the value of F/Z

But I believe we can all agree that animation-wise + soundtracks are great.

For me, FZ >>>>>> FSN anime
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 04:45:09
September 23 2013 04:10 GMT
#62132
Ten bucks says they do HF and assume you have knowledge of the other two routes.

Edit: By the way, something's horribly wrong if you're putting that much stock into what other people say. I could easily describe a good hundred or so anime as having an anti-climactic ending, and I wouldn't even be lying from my perspective. Just watch the show and enjoy it if you enjoy it. ~_~
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 04:14:33
September 23 2013 04:13 GMT
#62133
Some people care too much about spoilers, and saying something is anti-climactic is so vague that I don't understand how one could possibly be "spoiled" from saying that, not to mention having an "anti-climactic" ending is always so dependable on what a viewer expects from an ending.

I didn't really see anything anti-climactic about it...so yeah.

OH SNAPS I DIDN'T SPOILER THAT WORD.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1969 Posts
September 23 2013 04:16 GMT
#62134
Uchouten Kazoka is so good and the beginning of ED with just the piano is amazing.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
September 23 2013 04:18 GMT
#62135
On September 23 2013 10:40 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Just finished Top Wo Nerae

+ Show Spoiler +
I liked it. The main girl Takaya grew a lot, and I was kind of surprised how Jung and Amano turned out, though I have to say I didn't like them so much. The universe needed some work, but that wasn't really the point of the anime. Ending was satisfying, bittersweet yet heartwarming. I actually half expected with all the time dilation science that was going on in the anime that Jung would calculate exactly how long it would take Amano/Takay to come back and warp around the sun for 12k years.....

But that's probably asking for too much, haha.

Oh, and the OST was great! ^^

Gunbuster was soooooo good. So many good moments, and one of the best endings in anime. Diebuster helps make Gunbuster's ending even better, too. On that note, if you ever do decide to watch Diebuster (since its Gunbuster's sequel), keep in mind its more similar in style to Gurren Lagann and FLCL, than it is to Gunbuster.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
September 23 2013 04:26 GMT
#62136
servant service
+ Show Spoiler +
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starleague forever
XenOmega
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada2822 Posts
September 23 2013 05:11 GMT
#62137
This is pretty much a general anime thread. So "spoilers" are bound to happen. Most people here will put spoilers alert when discussing ongoing shows, and this alone show that we respect the fact that not everyone get to see the latest episodes. But for older animes, it is really hard to keep this thread as a "general one" if we have to put spoiler tags on everything we say. I think for most major events, people will put them in spoiler alert. But for general feeling toward an anime, i don't see why we should censor ourselves...

About "anti-climatic" : Again, this can be subjective. I thought FZ ending was perfect (and coming from someone who watched FSN after watching FZ)
Kind of like The last of Us + Show Spoiler +
some people found it disappointing, but I found it perfect
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 05:33:11
September 23 2013 05:11 GMT
#62138
On September 23 2013 12:49 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 12:37 Ecael wrote:
What are you even trying to complain about, do you not like when people don't spoiler or something? Because going by what you said, we can use any random adjective to describe F/Z's ending and you can throw a fit.

Saying it's + Show Spoiler +
anti-climatic
is a spoiler itself. If I come to read whether I should watch F/Z or F/SN first, then I expect people tell me whether I should... *10 minutes of drumroll* watch F/Z or F/SN first. So, there are 2 main problems:
1. I don't care, if that said person liked the ending or not, and especially don'T want to know what he or she did not like about it. The ending doesn't even have to do anything about the main question, which is about continuity, aka "will I understand F/Z if I start with that first?". Who would say then that the ending is not that good?
2. + Show Spoiler +
The anime is about an artifact (or whatever) that grants (supposedly) any wish you want from it. That is endless possibilities, so if someone says it was anti-climatic, that pretty much spoils that I shouldn't expect much. You might say that he was wrong, and it's just his opinion, but I'll still watch close to 25 episodes or so, thinking the ending won't be great.


These are the worst people out there.
- Hey, how's that anime/series/movie?
- Not bad dude, though the ending can be seen from miles away, and it's not too ballsy.
- Thanks man, you just made those precious minutes al lthe more exciting!

As I said, at least phrase it some other way. "It sucks, it's bad, I didn't like it, terrible", whatever, it's still better than giving away what is bad with it. But back to my 1st point: It should not have been mentioned at all.

I can't even stand if I see someone else spoilered, it's like witnessing a robbery.

Giving a subjective opinion on the ending of something is not a spoiler. People giving you no information other than that they feel that something is subpar...doesn't actually tell you anything. It is your fault for being an idiot and taking someone else's words as the gospel. Notice how something being anti-climatic doesn't actually limit any possibilities with the outcome of the show, at least, nothing beyond your decision that it is going to suck.

Following that logic, do all the people that just sang praises of F/Z balance out the anti-climatic opinion? Are you now overhyped and pissed again that it is going to be such an epic ending?

As for people elaborating what they feel is wrong about the show, you know, you are very much welcome to form an opinion of the show yourself. If you can't watch something and form your own opinion without having it influenced by people on the internet to the point of it ruining your experience. Then do yourself a favor and don't browse the web.

On September 23 2013 12:58 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 12:53 KazeHydra wrote:
How is knowing how a prequel is going to end (because it's, you know, a prequel; the entire conclusion is already known), thus making it anti-climatic to some, a spoiler?

As of now, I'm watching it as a standalone anime.

That doesn't change the fact that some might find the ending anti-climatic for whatever reason, nor does it actually tell you anything because you don't know jackshit about the series to make conjectures on.

On September 23 2013 13:10 Spazer wrote:
Ten bucks says they do HF and assume you have knowledge of the other two routes.

Edit: By the way, something's horribly wrong if you're putting that much stock into what other people say. I could easily describe a good hundred or so anime as having an anti-climactic ending, and I wouldn't even be lying from my perspective. Just watch the show and enjoy it if you enjoy it. ~_~

Nasuverse basically assumes prior and random knowledge anyway
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8035 Posts
September 23 2013 05:24 GMT
#62139
On September 23 2013 14:11 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 13:10 Spazer wrote:
Ten bucks says they do HF and assume you have knowledge of the other two routes.

Edit: By the way, something's horribly wrong if you're putting that much stock into what other people say. I could easily describe a good hundred or so anime as having an anti-climactic ending, and I wouldn't even be lying from my perspective. Just watch the show and enjoy it if you enjoy it. ~_~

Nasuverse basically assumes prior and random knowledge anyway

Well, at least you can't tell that it's assuming prior knowledge if it all goes over your head~
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mpa
Profile Joined January 2009
50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 05:40:09
September 23 2013 05:30 GMT
#62140
On September 22 2013 18:31 mpa wrote:
Thanks for all the suggestions ^_^
I'm gonna check em out one by one !

While waiting for some response I read the first volume of Yokohama Kaidashi Kikou and by golly it's amazing.


I'm about halfway through Elfen Lied and it feels like the story have just started,
Cant believe there's only 13 episodes.
A nice surprise to see Amazon made something like this available for free to Prime users.
Bit too much gratuitous nudity. The opening song is godlike.

Garren Lagan seems to be another slow starter. Hope the pace will increase or the story would turn darker soon. Too much "power of nakama " and "willpower overcomes all" tropes for my taste. The reviews are very very good though, otherwise I would have dropped it.

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