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Sterlymobile
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
September 23 2013 07:03 GMT
#62141
Everyone in the monogatari series must have neck problems, they bend their necks to the side quite a bit.
"You sons of a silly person"
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 23 2013 08:16 GMT
#62142
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*
Writer
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
September 23 2013 08:17 GMT
#62143
On September 23 2013 11:22 EchOne wrote:
<gAOxI|laptop> looking straight kawaii
<gAOxI|laptop> up in this shit

word
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elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 13:40:53
September 23 2013 13:35 GMT
#62144
On September 23 2013 14:24 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:11 Ecael wrote:
On September 23 2013 13:10 Spazer wrote:
Ten bucks says they do HF and assume you have knowledge of the other two routes.

Edit: By the way, something's horribly wrong if you're putting that much stock into what other people say. I could easily describe a good hundred or so anime as having an anti-climactic ending, and I wouldn't even be lying from my perspective. Just watch the show and enjoy it if you enjoy it. ~_~

Nasuverse basically assumes prior and random knowledge anyway

Well, at least you can't tell that it's assuming prior knowledge if it all goes over your head~


Half way through the second F/Z season when they drop the + Show Spoiler +
two part Kerry backstory/special in I was extremely confused. I honestly started looking around to see on the internet if whoever put the torrent together had fucked up and put in episodes from another anime. I was pretty confused about where all this vampire/True Ancestor/Dead Apostle suddenly came from and didn't understand until I played Tsukihime and followed that up by reading the TM wiki.
.

To sum: God damn Nasuverse.

EDIT: Monogatari 12 + Show Spoiler +
I really hope Snake gets it. By that I mean bat fangs/kaiji killer or something.

Butterfly eyes creep the hell out of me too.
(Under Construction)
Volband
Profile Joined March 2011
Hungary6034 Posts
September 23 2013 14:54 GMT
#62145
On September 23 2013 14:11 XenOmega wrote:
This is pretty much a general anime thread. So "spoilers" are bound to happen. Most people here will put spoilers alert when discussing ongoing shows, and this alone show that we respect the fact that not everyone get to see the latest episodes. But for older animes, it is really hard to keep this thread as a "general one" if we have to put spoiler tags on everything we say. I think for most major events, people will put them in spoiler alert. But for general feeling toward an anime, i don't see why we should censor ourselves...

About "anti-climatic" : Again, this can be subjective. I thought FZ ending was perfect (and coming from someone who watched FSN after watching FZ)
Kind of like The last of Us + Show Spoiler +
some people found it disappointing, but I found it perfect

I wasn't talking about this thread, I wouldn't care if it had happened here.

On September 23 2013 14:11 Ecael wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 12:49 Volband wrote:
On September 23 2013 12:37 Ecael wrote:
What are you even trying to complain about, do you not like when people don't spoiler or something? Because going by what you said, we can use any random adjective to describe F/Z's ending and you can throw a fit.

Saying it's + Show Spoiler +
anti-climatic
is a spoiler itself. If I come to read whether I should watch F/Z or F/SN first, then I expect people tell me whether I should... *10 minutes of drumroll* watch F/Z or F/SN first. So, there are 2 main problems:
1. I don't care, if that said person liked the ending or not, and especially don'T want to know what he or she did not like about it. The ending doesn't even have to do anything about the main question, which is about continuity, aka "will I understand F/Z if I start with that first?". Who would say then that the ending is not that good?
2. + Show Spoiler +
The anime is about an artifact (or whatever) that grants (supposedly) any wish you want from it. That is endless possibilities, so if someone says it was anti-climatic, that pretty much spoils that I shouldn't expect much. You might say that he was wrong, and it's just his opinion, but I'll still watch close to 25 episodes or so, thinking the ending won't be great.


These are the worst people out there.
- Hey, how's that anime/series/movie?
- Not bad dude, though the ending can be seen from miles away, and it's not too ballsy.
- Thanks man, you just made those precious minutes al lthe more exciting!

As I said, at least phrase it some other way. "It sucks, it's bad, I didn't like it, terrible", whatever, it's still better than giving away what is bad with it. But back to my 1st point: It should not have been mentioned at all.

I can't even stand if I see someone else spoilered, it's like witnessing a robbery.

Giving a subjective opinion on the ending of something is not a spoiler. People giving you no information other than that they feel that something is subpar...doesn't actually tell you anything. It is your fault for being an idiot and taking someone else's words as the gospel. Notice how something being anti-climatic doesn't actually limit any possibilities with the outcome of the show, at least, nothing beyond your decision that it is going to suck.

Following that logic, do all the people that just sang praises of F/Z balance out the anti-climatic opinion? Are you now overhyped and pissed again that it is going to be such an epic ending?

As for people elaborating what they feel is wrong about the show, you know, you are very much welcome to form an opinion of the show yourself. If you can't watch something and form your own opinion without having it influenced by people on the internet to the point of it ruining your experience. Then do yourself a favor and don't browse the web.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 12:58 Volband wrote:
On September 23 2013 12:53 KazeHydra wrote:
How is knowing how a prequel is going to end (because it's, you know, a prequel; the entire conclusion is already known), thus making it anti-climatic to some, a spoiler?

As of now, I'm watching it as a standalone anime.

That doesn't change the fact that some might find the ending anti-climatic for whatever reason, nor does it actually tell you anything because you don't know jackshit about the series to make conjectures on.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 13:10 Spazer wrote:
Ten bucks says they do HF and assume you have knowledge of the other two routes.

Edit: By the way, something's horribly wrong if you're putting that much stock into what other people say. I could easily describe a good hundred or so anime as having an anti-climactic ending, and I wouldn't even be lying from my perspective. Just watch the show and enjoy it if you enjoy it. ~_~

Nasuverse basically assumes prior and random knowledge anyway

You still don't understand. If a thread is specific to one single question, then the answers should all revolve around that question. It wasn't a general F/Z thread. Stating his opinion that F/Z's ending is anti-climatic helps me nothing to decide if I can enjoy F/Z without watching F/SN first.

You are right that I shouldn't take it too seriously, but I'm easily influenced by stuff like that, and you can call it stupidity, or personal trait/flaw, it's still a fact. I'm glad that I could read some opposing opinion's about the ending, it restored the balance for me.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
September 23 2013 14:57 GMT
#62146
On September 23 2013 17:16 Souma wrote:
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*

I did that IRL before I even began watching anime.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 23 2013 15:17 GMT
#62147
On September 23 2013 23:54 Volband wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:11 XenOmega wrote:
This is pretty much a general anime thread. So "spoilers" are bound to happen. Most people here will put spoilers alert when discussing ongoing shows, and this alone show that we respect the fact that not everyone get to see the latest episodes. But for older animes, it is really hard to keep this thread as a "general one" if we have to put spoiler tags on everything we say. I think for most major events, people will put them in spoiler alert. But for general feeling toward an anime, i don't see why we should censor ourselves...

About "anti-climatic" : Again, this can be subjective. I thought FZ ending was perfect (and coming from someone who watched FSN after watching FZ)
Kind of like The last of Us + Show Spoiler +
some people found it disappointing, but I found it perfect

I wasn't talking about this thread, I wouldn't care if it had happened here.

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 14:11 Ecael wrote:
On September 23 2013 12:49 Volband wrote:
On September 23 2013 12:37 Ecael wrote:
What are you even trying to complain about, do you not like when people don't spoiler or something? Because going by what you said, we can use any random adjective to describe F/Z's ending and you can throw a fit.

Saying it's + Show Spoiler +
anti-climatic
is a spoiler itself. If I come to read whether I should watch F/Z or F/SN first, then I expect people tell me whether I should... *10 minutes of drumroll* watch F/Z or F/SN first. So, there are 2 main problems:
1. I don't care, if that said person liked the ending or not, and especially don'T want to know what he or she did not like about it. The ending doesn't even have to do anything about the main question, which is about continuity, aka "will I understand F/Z if I start with that first?". Who would say then that the ending is not that good?
2. + Show Spoiler +
The anime is about an artifact (or whatever) that grants (supposedly) any wish you want from it. That is endless possibilities, so if someone says it was anti-climatic, that pretty much spoils that I shouldn't expect much. You might say that he was wrong, and it's just his opinion, but I'll still watch close to 25 episodes or so, thinking the ending won't be great.


These are the worst people out there.
- Hey, how's that anime/series/movie?
- Not bad dude, though the ending can be seen from miles away, and it's not too ballsy.
- Thanks man, you just made those precious minutes al lthe more exciting!

As I said, at least phrase it some other way. "It sucks, it's bad, I didn't like it, terrible", whatever, it's still better than giving away what is bad with it. But back to my 1st point: It should not have been mentioned at all.

I can't even stand if I see someone else spoilered, it's like witnessing a robbery.

Giving a subjective opinion on the ending of something is not a spoiler. People giving you no information other than that they feel that something is subpar...doesn't actually tell you anything. It is your fault for being an idiot and taking someone else's words as the gospel. Notice how something being anti-climatic doesn't actually limit any possibilities with the outcome of the show, at least, nothing beyond your decision that it is going to suck.

Following that logic, do all the people that just sang praises of F/Z balance out the anti-climatic opinion? Are you now overhyped and pissed again that it is going to be such an epic ending?

As for people elaborating what they feel is wrong about the show, you know, you are very much welcome to form an opinion of the show yourself. If you can't watch something and form your own opinion without having it influenced by people on the internet to the point of it ruining your experience. Then do yourself a favor and don't browse the web.

On September 23 2013 12:58 Volband wrote:
On September 23 2013 12:53 KazeHydra wrote:
How is knowing how a prequel is going to end (because it's, you know, a prequel; the entire conclusion is already known), thus making it anti-climatic to some, a spoiler?

As of now, I'm watching it as a standalone anime.

That doesn't change the fact that some might find the ending anti-climatic for whatever reason, nor does it actually tell you anything because you don't know jackshit about the series to make conjectures on.

On September 23 2013 13:10 Spazer wrote:
Ten bucks says they do HF and assume you have knowledge of the other two routes.

Edit: By the way, something's horribly wrong if you're putting that much stock into what other people say. I could easily describe a good hundred or so anime as having an anti-climactic ending, and I wouldn't even be lying from my perspective. Just watch the show and enjoy it if you enjoy it. ~_~

Nasuverse basically assumes prior and random knowledge anyway

You still don't understand. If a thread is specific to one single question, then the answers should all revolve around that question. It wasn't a general F/Z thread. Stating his opinion that F/Z's ending is anti-climatic helps me nothing to decide if I can enjoy F/Z without watching F/SN first.

You are right that I shouldn't take it too seriously, but I'm easily influenced by stuff like that, and you can call it stupidity, or personal trait/flaw, it's still a fact. I'm glad that I could read some opposing opinion's about the ending, it restored the balance for me.

If your complaint was that people didn't answer your question directly, then I would've thought it a silly thing to get worked up over, but you'd have a point. Saying that F/Z's ending was anti-climatic certainly doesn't tell you anything about which to watch first. Except that wasn't the bulk of it.

The issue that you spent more time complaining about was how the pointless answer affected you. A pointless answer in form of an opinion. Those things happen to pop up really often when people try to talk about what they feel about a subject. If you are actually made happier about the people talking about the ending positively, then really, you might as well as just never look at such discussions prior to actually watching something.

On a somewhat unrelated note, threads and discussions derail all the time. what are you going to do about it zzz
Maxie
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
September 23 2013 15:22 GMT
#62148
On September 23 2013 23:57 EchOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:16 Souma wrote:
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*

I did that IRL before I even began watching anime.


Kind of difficult to do a Shaft tier one without breaking your neck though.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
September 23 2013 16:06 GMT
#62149
On September 24 2013 00:22 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 23:57 EchOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 17:16 Souma wrote:
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*

I did that IRL before I even began watching anime.


Kind of difficult to do a Shaft tier one without breaking your neck though.


Reason number 2 why Senjougahara can't exist in the real world.
Reason number 1 being God hates me.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 23 2013 17:28 GMT
#62150
On September 24 2013 00:22 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 23:57 EchOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 17:16 Souma wrote:
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*

I did that IRL before I even began watching anime.


Kind of difficult to do a Shaft tier one without breaking your neck though.


Watch Highschool DxD 2 opening and you'll realize it's possible without breaking your neck! Not very comfy though.
+ Show Spoiler +
they rotated the characters of the lyrics by 90° for some reason, at least where I checked it out
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
PanzerElite
Profile Joined May 2012
540 Posts
September 23 2013 18:07 GMT
#62151
Highschool DxD
+ Show Spoiler +
BOOST BOOST BOOST BOOST BOOST! Boos! Boos! Boos! Boo! Boo! Bo! bo bo bo bo bo B b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b b BOOSTO!!!!!!!
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
September 23 2013 18:52 GMT
#62152
the final TWGOK's out!
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
September 23 2013 19:19 GMT
#62153
I will miss TWGOK, at the very least we will have some OVA's but still, no more Haqua too ;; (Diana will show up in the Nanaka arc)

+ Show Spoiler +
poor Chihiro ;;, also no Diana/Haqua Deito or Goddess snack party ;; cut cut cut.


Overall still very satisfied with the adeption.
WriterXiao8~~
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-23 19:42:17
September 23 2013 19:34 GMT
#62154
On September 24 2013 04:19 Kipsate wrote:
I will miss TWGOK, at the very least we will have some OVA's but still, no more Haqua too ;; (Diana will show up in the Nanaka arc)

+ Show Spoiler +
poor Chihiro ;;, also no Diana/Haqua Deito or Goddess snack party ;; cut cut cut.


Overall still very satisfied with the adeption.

just finished it as well, some overall thoughts:

+ Show Spoiler [TWGOK] +
Yeah I'm satisfied with the adeption as well. It was super fast pathed but it was awesome. Ayumi and Chihiro were really good the last couple of episodes. Actually all of them were really good, the only one I didn't quite like was the boy-ish one who's name I just can't remember, but that's just me, I never really liked her to begin with.

For the bad parts:
Disappointing that they had to leave out Haqua/Diana date, as in the scene that started all this, both for story reasons and for general awesomeness of the scene... but that was already mentioned 10 times in this thread so I'll leave it at that

Also sad there was no bottle-girl and like you said the snack party, but the bottle-girl really was weird to be left out.
And above all I'm still mad at how they handeled the Chihiro ending. That scene was singlehandedly the best scene in all of the TWGOKs mangas, by far, even trumping things like Haqua doing that betting game with Keima + Show Spoiler [manga] +
tsundere-ing like crazy when she had to fulfill any wish for him, three times, and she's all like
uuuuh,... you know we said the loser has to do anything... but not anything anything, right?
just to comepletly rage like crazy when she realizes he's just asking her about spirits and not asking her to do anything "special"
.
Don't get me wrong, the scene was good in the adeption but it should have been way fucking more amazing.

Edit: Oh but the good thing about the Chihiro thing was that they really made it good from Keimas point of view. You really could see how much it devastated him when he had time to not think about what to do next.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 23 2013 19:53 GMT
#62155
On September 23 2013 23:57 EchOne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 17:16 Souma wrote:
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*

I did that IRL before I even began watching anime.


+moe points to Echo.

On September 24 2013 00:22 Maxie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 23:57 EchOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 17:16 Souma wrote:
You mean, you don't do that IRL? *tilts head*

I did that IRL before I even began watching anime.


Kind of difficult to do a Shaft tier one without breaking your neck though.


Please get more flexible neck.
Writer
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 23 2013 20:18 GMT
#62156
Head tilt is my greatest weapon
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
September 23 2013 21:31 GMT
#62157
On September 24 2013 05:18 tonight wrote:
Head tilt is my greatest weapon


Picturing tonight's beard sway with the wind as his head tilts.

Priceless.
Writer
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-24 01:40:30
September 24 2013 00:39 GMT
#62158
Ecael/Anyone who knows their shit about Type Moon, got a question:
I forget, whats the difference between a Reality Marble and a Marble Phantasm?
edit: question answered on irc
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
September 24 2013 14:00 GMT
#62159
Uchouten Kazoku is such an amazing anime...one more episode to go, highly recommend to anyone who doesnt watch it already, i don't even know how to describe the genre of this anime, suitable for people who are busy, looking for some entertaining story with good characters, and probably enjoy that kind of artstyle.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 24 2013 17:47 GMT
#62160
TBH everyone should enjoy Uchouten...
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
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