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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
May 21 2014 19:56 GMT
#15941
Sign him up!
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champinjonen
Profile Joined November 2012
Sweden182 Posts
May 21 2014 20:05 GMT
#15942
If you believe in the number theory then the last devilfruit user to join SH would be Kuma (or having his DF) or any fruit user with similar annunciations.

Luffy > Gomu Gomu > rubber > 5(go) 6(mu) > 5656
Chopper > hito hito > human > 1(hi) 10(to) > 110110
Robin > Hana Hana > flower > 8(ha) 7(na) > 8787
Brooke > yomi yomi > revival/ afterworld > 4(yo) 3(mi) > 4343

Kuma > Nikyu Nikyu > paw > 2(ni) 9(kyu) > 2929
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44236 Posts
May 21 2014 20:08 GMT
#15943
On May 22 2014 05:05 champinjonen wrote:
If you believe in the number theory then the last devilfruit user to join SH would be Kuma (or having his DF) or any fruit user with similar annunciations.

Luffy > Gomu Gomu > rubber > 5(go) 6(mu) > 5656
Chopper > hito hito > human > 1(hi) 10(to) > 110110
Robin > Hana Hana > flower > 8(ha) 7(na) > 8787
Brooke > yomi yomi > revival/ afterworld > 4(yo) 3(mi) > 4343

Kuma > Nikyu Nikyu > paw > 2(ni) 9(kyu) > 2929

i can't tell if this is legit since i don't read/write nihongo. But this is cool

but my bias is telling me that this can't happen since we won't have rebecca on the crew if this happens.
this is a quote
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 21 2014 21:39 GMT
#15944
On May 21 2014 21:51 rei wrote:
can't zoro just cut that seastone off law already? could it be that seastone is immune to swords?

Pure curiosity, has there been a case of seastone ever getting cut or broken? The closest I can think of is Smoker's Jutte, but only the tip of that is Seastone, right?

On May 22 2014 01:35 Incognoto wrote:
REBECCA FOR NEXT STRAW HAWT

law can't join he's teh captain (+ SH alreayd have doctor chopper)
neither can bart (SH already have fanboi sanji)
or the bull (SH already have reindeer chopper)
none of them have dreams, etc

so yeah, REBECCA 2014

since we need a lady swords-woman carrying meat.

Rebecca doesn't have a dream, we have had her flashback. We have not have Law's flashback yet, and he was mentioning some person when he was getting stomped by DD a while back. He probably has a dream, however, hes a doctor, had a higher bounty than Luffy (IIRC), and has his own crew. I highly doubt he will be joining, but he will become an ally nonetheless.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Raneth
Profile Joined December 2009
England527 Posts
May 21 2014 21:42 GMT
#15945
On May 22 2014 06:39 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 21:51 rei wrote:
can't zoro just cut that seastone off law already? could it be that seastone is immune to swords?

Pure curiosity, has there been a case of seastone ever getting cut or broken? The closest I can think of is Smoker's Jutte, but only the tip of that is Seastone, right?

Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 01:35 Incognoto wrote:
REBECCA FOR NEXT STRAW HAWT

law can't join he's teh captain (+ SH alreayd have doctor chopper)
neither can bart (SH already have fanboi sanji)
or the bull (SH already have reindeer chopper)
none of them have dreams, etc

so yeah, REBECCA 2014

since we need a lady swords-woman carrying meat.

Rebecca doesn't have a dream, we have had her flashback. We have not have Law's flashback yet, and he was mentioning some person when he was getting stomped by DD a while back. He probably has a dream, however, hes a doctor, had a higher bounty than Luffy (IIRC), and has his own crew. I highly doubt he will be joining, but he will become an ally nonetheless.

Unless seastone grows in pairs of handcuffs, i think its safe to assume it is a malleable material
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 21:43:51
May 21 2014 21:43 GMT
#15946
On May 22 2014 06:42 Raneth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 06:39 Sentenal wrote:
On May 21 2014 21:51 rei wrote:
can't zoro just cut that seastone off law already? could it be that seastone is immune to swords?

Pure curiosity, has there been a case of seastone ever getting cut or broken? The closest I can think of is Smoker's Jutte, but only the tip of that is Seastone, right?

On May 22 2014 01:35 Incognoto wrote:
REBECCA FOR NEXT STRAW HAWT

law can't join he's teh captain (+ SH alreayd have doctor chopper)
neither can bart (SH already have fanboi sanji)
or the bull (SH already have reindeer chopper)
none of them have dreams, etc

so yeah, REBECCA 2014

since we need a lady swords-woman carrying meat.

Rebecca doesn't have a dream, we have had her flashback. We have not have Law's flashback yet, and he was mentioning some person when he was getting stomped by DD a while back. He probably has a dream, however, hes a doctor, had a higher bounty than Luffy (IIRC), and has his own crew. I highly doubt he will be joining, but he will become an ally nonetheless.

Unless seastone grows in pairs of handcuffs, i think its safe to assume it is a malleable material

Sure, you can forge it, but has there ever been a case of it getting cut?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 21:46:46
May 21 2014 21:45 GMT
#15947
I don't recall any handcuffs getting broken. Every time someone had them on they got out via a key iirc. Remember Marco during the whitebeard war? He was among a lot of strong people but no one broke the cuffs for him (I don't think). Plus I know pretime skip Zoro could not cut the cell made of sea stone in the Alabasta arc.
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Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
May 21 2014 23:34 GMT
#15948
On May 22 2014 06:45 Slaughter wrote:
I don't recall any handcuffs getting broken. Every time someone had them on they got out via a key iirc. Remember Marco during the whitebeard war? He was among a lot of strong people but no one broke the cuffs for him (I don't think). Plus I know pretime skip Zoro could not cut the cell made of sea stone in the Alabasta arc.

That was also before he learned to cut metal.
Zoro always "wanders off and gets lost" or gets otherwise separated when other people get cuffed.

He is too good at cutting things, so the plots demands that he can't walk down a straight hallway without getting lost until his own fights start.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-21 23:46:11
May 21 2014 23:42 GMT
#15949
There are things Zoro couldn't cut even after he was able to cut steel in Alabasta arc. Notably he wasn't able to damage Kuma much because he was made of a metal stronger than steel. DD has trusts that sea stone barriers are enough to protect the factory so it definitely is stronger than steel so it's unknown if Zoro could cut sea stone.
XiaoJoyce-
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
China2908 Posts
May 22 2014 02:30 GMT
#15950
On May 22 2014 08:42 BlackMagister wrote:
There are things Zoro couldn't cut even after he was able to cut steel in Alabasta arc. Notably he wasn't able to damage Kuma much because he was made of a metal stronger than steel. DD has trusts that sea stone barriers are enough to protect the factory so it definitely is stronger than steel so it's unknown if Zoro could cut sea stone.


I have a feeling Factory will be destroyed by the Super Franky . .
Pew! Pew! Chitty Chitty Bang Bang!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 22 2014 03:11 GMT
#15951
I think Vegapunk was said to be the man behind the Marines' seastone crafting technologies, so maybe Franky found something in Vegapunk's lab to help him dismantle seastone. Here's hoping.
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 03:13:50
May 22 2014 03:12 GMT
#15952
On May 22 2014 08:34 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 06:45 Slaughter wrote:
I don't recall any handcuffs getting broken. Every time someone had them on they got out via a key iirc. Remember Marco during the whitebeard war? He was among a lot of strong people but no one broke the cuffs for him (I don't think). Plus I know pretime skip Zoro could not cut the cell made of sea stone in the Alabasta arc.

That was also before he learned to cut metal.
Zoro always "wanders off and gets lost" or gets otherwise separated when other people get cuffed.

He is too good at cutting things, so the plots demands that he can't walk down a straight hallway without getting lost until his own fights start.

Enies Lobby he could cut metal and was unable to escape the handcuffs

I think Vegapunk was said to be the man behind the Marines' seastone crafting technologies, so maybe Franky found something in Vegapunk's lab to help him dismantle seastone. Here's hoping.


he mentioned his Lazer so maybe seastone is weak to high temperatures? maybe its like super duper hard mega-ice that only melts at like 1000 degrees
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 03:34:42
May 22 2014 03:34 GMT
#15953
Vegapunk was credited for making the sea stone devices put on the bottom of Marine ships to sail through the Calm Belt. I don't recall him being credited for crafting sea stone. There is some sort of process that allows Kairoseki to be melded into shapes so if anyone could destroy sea stone it would be Franky.

Looking it up melting point of steel varies on the steel alloy, but is 1,492 °C (2,718 °F) for Pure Iron ('Steel' with 0% Carbon) and 1,130 °C (2,070 °F) for Steel with 2.1% Carbon so no need to compare it to "mega-ice."
terranghost
Profile Joined May 2010
United States980 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-22 04:44:40
May 22 2014 04:43 GMT
#15954
On May 22 2014 05:05 champinjonen wrote:
If you believe in the number theory then the last devilfruit user to join SH would be Kuma (or having his DF) or any fruit user with similar annunciations.

Luffy > Gomu Gomu > rubber > 5(go) 6(mu) > 5656
Chopper > hito hito > human > 1(hi) 10(to) > 110110
Robin > Hana Hana > flower > 8(ha) 7(na) > 8787
Brooke > yomi yomi > revival/ afterworld > 4(yo) 3(mi) > 4343
Kuma > Nikyu Nikyu > paw > 2(ni) 9(kyu) > 2929


I've heard this theory before.

I'm not Japanese nor can I speak the language so I've never understood this.
I know the theory is the fruits are 2 numbers or what not but....

But isn't three in Japanese pronounced "san" not "mi"
Or at least that's what I hear when I watch the anime.

Can someone explain this.
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
May 22 2014 04:49 GMT
#15955
I think "mi" is one of the exceptions for counting things.

Kind of like how 1 person is hitori, 2 people is futari, etc.
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
May 22 2014 05:01 GMT
#15956
On May 22 2014 13:43 terranghost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 05:05 champinjonen wrote:
If you believe in the number theory then the last devilfruit user to join SH would be Kuma (or having his DF) or any fruit user with similar annunciations.

Luffy > Gomu Gomu > rubber > 5(go) 6(mu) > 5656
Chopper > hito hito > human > 1(hi) 10(to) > 110110
Robin > Hana Hana > flower > 8(ha) 7(na) > 8787
Brooke > yomi yomi > revival/ afterworld > 4(yo) 3(mi) > 4343
Kuma > Nikyu Nikyu > paw > 2(ni) 9(kyu) > 2929


I've heard this theory before.

I'm not Japanese nor can I speak the language so I've never understood this.
I know the theory is the fruits are 2 numbers or what not but....

But isn't three in Japanese pronounced "san" not "mi"
Or at least that's what I hear when I watch the anime.

Can someone explain this.

Many characters in Japanese can have multiple readings depending on the context. One common dichotomy is between "kun" readings and "on" readings. For example, with 三 (three) you have an "on" reading of "san", and a "kun" reading of "mi". You would use the "on" reading, "san", when counting one to ten, or giving the time on a clock. On the other hand, you would use the "kun" reading, "mi", in something like 三つ, pronounced "mittsu", which would imply "three of <something>".
面白くない世の中, 面白くすればいいさ
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 22 2014 12:01 GMT
#15957
If that theory is true, then yay.

Kuma joining SH is a great thing.
Jimbei is gonna join at some point.
Play your best
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
May 22 2014 12:50 GMT
#15958
Law's ability is too broken, he would be able to go in and out of the factory and move anyone anywhere he wanted. For the plot to develop he has to some how unable to use his ability.
GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
sc2holar
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden1637 Posts
May 22 2014 12:58 GMT
#15959
On May 22 2014 21:50 rei wrote:
Law's ability is too broken, he would be able to go in and out of the factory and move anyone anywhere he wanted. For the plot to develop he has to some how unable to use his ability.

It has that, his DF power basicly consumes Mana. using his power drains his energy and he has to plan ahead and save up appropriate amounts of energy for different situations.
you no take candle
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
May 22 2014 13:27 GMT
#15960
You guys have to take into account that seastone materials might not be complete seastone, they might just have chunks of it sealed within the iron melding or something.
Useless wet fish.
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