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seems like all of you forget, thats the strength of an younkou isnt just the personal combat strength. Its about there crew, too. Blackbeard never could have taken down Whitebeard in an 1on 1 battle between there crews. Thats are just speculations: I think Shanks has probaly the most combat power of all younkous with his crew, but there are number wise a lot smaller, then the other crews of the younkou, besides blackbeard, but who knows. I think kadio got a huge crew like Whitebeard and the fight will be more a test for the other crewmembers beside luffy, that they could face multiple strong oppents.
shanks vs Kaido. I have always thought kadio engaged shanks it came to small fights and he instantly thought it not worse it. Because kadio is probaly a wuse and doenst like to face strong oppentents.
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On September 12 2013 18:42 Lysteria wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote: I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die To be honest, Hachi was just a random villain too before becoming an ally of the straw hats. I have to trust Oda once again on this one.
Hachi was great, even in the Fishman arc, I would even say especially in the Fishman arc.
Like how he's so damn polite to Zoro and brings him to Arlong was all friendly like. Then even during his fight with Zoro, he's damn friendly.
Like
Hachi was ridiculously funny and so nice that he almost wasn't a villain. Crocodile was an excellent villain.
Moria? he's just a dumb fuck and really vain.
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On September 12 2013 18:43 spaZps wrote: seems like all of you forget, thats the strength of an younkou isnt just the personal combat strength. Its about there crew, too. Blackbeard never could have taken down Whitebeard in an 1on 1 battle between there crews. Thats are just speculations: I think Shanks has probaly the most combat power of all younkous with his crew, but there are number wise a lot smaller, then the other crews of the younkou, besides blackbeard, but who knows. I think kadio got a huge crew like Whitebeard and the fight will be more a test for the other crewmembers beside luffy, that they could face multiple strong oppents.
shanks vs Kaido. I have always thought kadio engaged shanks it came to small fights and he instantly thought it not worse it. Because kadio is probaly a wuse and doenst like to face strong oppentents.
100 beast kaido isn't he called? Maybe the 100 beasts refers to his 100 crew members who are all zoan types
edit: oops sorry i double posted really fast without thinking. -_-
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On September 12 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:Show nested quote +On September 12 2013 18:42 Lysteria wrote:On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote: I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die To be honest, Hachi was just a random villain too before becoming an ally of the straw hats. I have to trust Oda once again on this one. Hachi was great, even in the Fishman arc, I would even say especially in the Fishman arc. Like how he's so damn polite to Zoro and brings him to Arlong was all friendly like. Then even during his fight with Zoro, he's damn friendly. Like Hachi was ridiculously funny and so nice that he almost wasn't a villain. Crocodile was an excellent villain. Moria? he's just a dumb fuck and really vain.
yeah Hacci seems like the guy who stuck to his friends ever since his childhood but isn't a scumbag villain type character like Arlong, Kiss & the Karate Guy
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In the german dub Hachi has a femal voice, so I though he was a girl. I never liked him until sabaody T_T
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Why are people saying Moria is alive. Isn't it like specifically stated multiple times that he is dead?
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mihawk specifically stated that the news article concerning moria's death wasn't a credible source and dofla, who was, i believe, in charge of killing moria said that he just vanished before he could kill him
pretty sure he's alive
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And when we saw his two sidekicks, it was implied he was still alive, iirc.
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Hmm ok I'll have to back and look thanks.
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On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote: I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die hes fruit is pretty strong he can hang back and have you fight the shadow and if you ever manage to get near himm he can jsut switch places with it
luffy would never have beat him if he hadnt done the dumb thing and went for straight up fight
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I hope to see Moria lending a hand to the Straw Hat-Heart Pirates alliance too... A Shadow Luffy merging all the crew's shadows would be so OP...
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On September 12 2013 23:41 OskO wrote: I hope to see Moria lending a hand to the Straw Hat-Heart Pirates alliance too... A Shadow Luffy merging all the crew's shadows would be so OP...
I see what you did there.
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Moria is alive source. DF says he was half dead but unless we see a dead body in the OP world i think we can assume hes alive.
His power isn't bad, just needs creative use. Not being able to die when getting back stabbed by DF and pacifistas makes it seem reasonably good. As a villain he doesn't bother me, reminds me of penguin from batman. Weak and ugly but very manipulative.
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On September 12 2013 20:44 Incognoto wrote: mihawk specifically stated that the news article concerning moria's death wasn't a credible source and dofla, who was, i believe, in charge of killing moria said that he just vanished before he could kill him
pretty sure he's alive You're right but Mihawk's statement has nothing to do with it. Mihawk simply says he doesn't understand how Moria could be dead since he didn't see him die during the war however Moria was planned to be executed after the war so Mihawk would have made the statement whether or not Moria was alive or dead.
The rest is correct Moria is likely to be alive because Donflamingo wasn't able to confirm he was killed because he vanished before the killing blow. The most likely explanation is that he was saved Absalom who was shown to be alive after the Thiller Bark arc and is the mysterious reporter who manages to find out scoops using his invisibility DF. Shortly after the Kid, Hawkins and On Air alliance was made a ship that looked like Absalom's appeared showing he still active and according to an SBS who was at Marineford.
http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_71#Chapter_707.2C_Page_136
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On September 13 2013 01:37 Chro wrote:Moria is alive source. DF says he was half dead but unless we see a dead body in the OP world i think we can assume hes alive. His power isn't bad, just needs creative use. Not being able to die when getting back stabbed by DF and pacifistas makes it seem reasonably good. As a villain he doesn't bother me, reminds me of penguin from batman. Weak and ugly but very manipulative. Moria is probably the only shichibukai to deteriorate over time. He pretty much did nothing himself in the Thriller Bark arc except getting owned after consuming all the shadows. I hope he did some trainings over the 2 years after getting humiliated by Doflamingo and get back in shape to aid Luffy against Kaido.
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I still hate moria and I don't want him to help against Kaido.
Also I think Haki > the shadow fruit
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On September 13 2013 02:55 Incognoto wrote: I still hate moria and I don't want him to help against Kaido.
Also I think Haki > the shadow fruit haki doesnt affect the shadow fruit...
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Moria is indeed lame and probaby the worst villain the OP series, agreed.
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On September 13 2013 03:19 evilfatsh1t wrote: haki affects everything but it doesnt negate any of the abilities of the shadow fruit at all
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