• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 03:02
CEST 09:02
KST 16:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers13Maestros of the Game 2 announced72026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Data needed Any progamer "explanation" videos like this one? ASL21 General Discussion ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2065 users

[Manga] One Piece - Page 486

Forum Index > Media & Entertainment
Post a Reply
Prev 1 484 485 486 487 488 1664 Next
This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
spaZps
Profile Joined December 2012
52 Posts
September 12 2013 09:43 GMT
#9701
seems like all of you forget, thats the strength of an younkou isnt just the personal combat strength. Its about there crew, too. Blackbeard never could have taken down Whitebeard in an 1on 1 battle between there crews.
Thats are just speculations: I think Shanks has probaly the most combat power of all younkous with his crew, but there are number wise a lot smaller, then the other crews of the younkou, besides blackbeard, but who knows. I think kadio got a huge crew like Whitebeard and the fight will be more a test for the other crewmembers beside luffy, that they could face multiple strong oppents.

shanks vs Kaido. I have always thought kadio engaged shanks it came to small fights and he instantly thought it not worse it. Because kadio is probaly a wuse and doenst like to face strong oppentents.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 12 2013 10:15 GMT
#9702
On September 12 2013 18:42 Lysteria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote:
I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die


To be honest, Hachi was just a random villain too before becoming an ally of the straw hats. I have to trust Oda once again on this one.


Hachi was great, even in the Fishman arc, I would even say especially in the Fishman arc.

Like how he's so damn polite to Zoro and brings him to Arlong was all friendly like. Then even during his fight with Zoro, he's damn friendly.

Like

Hachi was ridiculously funny and so nice that he almost wasn't a villain. Crocodile was an excellent villain.

Moria? he's just a dumb fuck and really vain.
maru lover forever
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 10:17:28
September 12 2013 10:16 GMT
#9703
On September 12 2013 18:43 spaZps wrote:
seems like all of you forget, thats the strength of an younkou isnt just the personal combat strength. Its about there crew, too. Blackbeard never could have taken down Whitebeard in an 1on 1 battle between there crews.
Thats are just speculations: I think Shanks has probaly the most combat power of all younkous with his crew, but there are number wise a lot smaller, then the other crews of the younkou, besides blackbeard, but who knows. I think kadio got a huge crew like Whitebeard and the fight will be more a test for the other crewmembers beside luffy, that they could face multiple strong oppents.

shanks vs Kaido. I have always thought kadio engaged shanks it came to small fights and he instantly thought it not worse it. Because kadio is probaly a wuse and doenst like to face strong oppentents.


100 beast kaido isn't he called? Maybe the 100 beasts refers to his 100 crew members who are all zoan types


edit: oops sorry i double posted really fast without thinking. -_-
maru lover forever
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
September 12 2013 10:18 GMT
#9704
On September 12 2013 19:15 Incognoto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 18:42 Lysteria wrote:
On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote:
I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die


To be honest, Hachi was just a random villain too before becoming an ally of the straw hats. I have to trust Oda once again on this one.


Hachi was great, even in the Fishman arc, I would even say especially in the Fishman arc.

Like how he's so damn polite to Zoro and brings him to Arlong was all friendly like. Then even during his fight with Zoro, he's damn friendly.

Like

Hachi was ridiculously funny and so nice that he almost wasn't a villain. Crocodile was an excellent villain.

Moria? he's just a dumb fuck and really vain.


yeah Hacci seems like the guy who stuck to his friends ever since his childhood but isn't a scumbag villain type character like Arlong, Kiss & the Karate Guy
Big-t
Profile Joined January 2011
Austria1350 Posts
September 12 2013 11:23 GMT
#9705
In the german dub Hachi has a femal voice, so I though he was a girl.
I never liked him until sabaody T_T
monchi | IdrA | Flash
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
September 12 2013 11:41 GMT
#9706
Why are people saying Moria is alive. Isn't it like specifically stated multiple times that he is dead?
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 12 2013 11:44 GMT
#9707
mihawk specifically stated that the news article concerning moria's death wasn't a credible source and dofla, who was, i believe, in charge of killing moria said that he just vanished before he could kill him

pretty sure he's alive
maru lover forever
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
September 12 2013 11:45 GMT
#9708
And when we saw his two sidekicks, it was implied he was still alive, iirc.
Kirsed
Profile Joined May 2013
9380 Posts
September 12 2013 11:47 GMT
#9709
Hmm ok I'll have to back and look thanks.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 12 2013 14:25 GMT
#9710
On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote:
I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die

hes fruit is pretty strong he can hang back and have you fight the shadow and if you ever manage to get near himm he can jsut switch places with it

luffy would never have beat him if he hadnt done the dumb thing and went for straight up fight
OskO
Profile Joined February 2011
Argentina369 Posts
September 12 2013 14:41 GMT
#9711
I hope to see Moria lending a hand to the Straw Hat-Heart Pirates alliance too... A Shadow Luffy merging all the crew's shadows would be so OP...
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
September 12 2013 14:45 GMT
#9712
On September 12 2013 23:41 OskO wrote:
I hope to see Moria lending a hand to the Straw Hat-Heart Pirates alliance too... A Shadow Luffy merging all the crew's shadows would be so OP...


I see what you did there.
Chro
Profile Joined May 2010
United States240 Posts
September 12 2013 16:37 GMT
#9713
Moria is alive source. DF says he was half dead but unless we see a dead body in the OP world i think we can assume hes alive.

His power isn't bad, just needs creative use. Not being able to die when getting back stabbed by DF and pacifistas makes it seem reasonably good. As a villain he doesn't bother me, reminds me of penguin from batman. Weak and ugly but very manipulative.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 16:49:27
September 12 2013 16:47 GMT
#9714
On September 12 2013 20:44 Incognoto wrote:
mihawk specifically stated that the news article concerning moria's death wasn't a credible source and dofla, who was, i believe, in charge of killing moria said that he just vanished before he could kill him

pretty sure he's alive

You're right but Mihawk's statement has nothing to do with it. Mihawk simply says he doesn't understand how Moria could be dead since he didn't see him die during the war however Moria was planned to be executed after the war so Mihawk would have made the statement whether or not Moria was alive or dead.

The rest is correct Moria is likely to be alive because Donflamingo wasn't able to confirm he was killed because he vanished before the killing blow. The most likely explanation is that he was saved Absalom who was shown to be alive after the Thiller Bark arc and is the mysterious reporter who manages to find out scoops using his invisibility DF. Shortly after the Kid, Hawkins and On Air alliance was made a ship that looked like Absalom's appeared showing he still active and according to an SBS who was at Marineford.

http://onepiece.wikia.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_71#Chapter_707.2C_Page_136
RiZu
Profile Joined February 2012
Singapore5715 Posts
September 12 2013 16:53 GMT
#9715
On September 13 2013 01:37 Chro wrote:
Moria is alive source. DF says he was half dead but unless we see a dead body in the OP world i think we can assume hes alive.

His power isn't bad, just needs creative use. Not being able to die when getting back stabbed by DF and pacifistas makes it seem reasonably good. As a villain he doesn't bother me, reminds me of penguin from batman. Weak and ugly but very manipulative.

Moria is probably the only shichibukai to deteriorate over time. He pretty much did nothing himself in the Thriller Bark arc except getting owned after consuming all the shadows. I hope he did some trainings over the 2 years after getting humiliated by Doflamingo and get back in shape to aid Luffy against Kaido.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
September 12 2013 17:55 GMT
#9716
I still hate moria and I don't want him to help against Kaido.

Also I think Haki > the shadow fruit
maru lover forever
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 12 2013 18:17 GMT
#9717
On September 13 2013 02:55 Incognoto wrote:
I still hate moria and I don't want him to help against Kaido.

Also I think Haki > the shadow fruit

haki doesnt affect the shadow fruit...
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8848 Posts
September 12 2013 18:19 GMT
#9718
haki affects everything
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
September 12 2013 18:20 GMT
#9719
Moria is indeed lame and probaby the worst villain the OP series, agreed.
Revolutionist fan
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 12 2013 18:22 GMT
#9720
On September 13 2013 03:19 evilfatsh1t wrote:
haki affects everything

but it doesnt negate any of the abilities of the shadow fruit at all
Prev 1 484 485 486 487 488 1664 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#78
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 136
StarCraft: Brood War
GuemChi 4402
Nal_rA 224
sSak 24
Dewaltoss 22
yabsab 20
NotJumperer 12
Bale 10
Icarus 6
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K1060
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King273
Other Games
summit1g7669
WinterStarcraft494
ceh9284
Trikslyr129
Happy1
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream1915
Other Games
gamesdonequick859
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH249
• 3DClanTV 43
• LUISG 6
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Rush1520
• Stunt539
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
2h 59m
Replay Cast
16h 59m
The PondCast
1d 2h
KCM Race Survival
1d 2h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 3h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
OSC
1d 7h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 16h
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs TBD
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
TBD vs YSC
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.