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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On September 12 2013 02:29 GettingIt wrote: I like how Luffy is collecting princesses. Princess Vivi, Mermaid Princes, Princess Rebecca, the Snake Princess And the Empress Hancock  | ||
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Frost
Korea (South)1042 Posts
Snake Princess is Hancock. | ||
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
This is really starting to feel Alabasta-like indeed, which in many many ways is good. Hope they add an Enies Lobby to this saga as it was for Water7 :p | ||
Olli
Austria24422 Posts
Think about it, Kaidou's been perfectly set up to be the big name Luffy takes out to really turn the heads. Shanks apparently had no trouble with Kaidou, Moria was said to be on par with him at some point so Kaidou's overall reputation in the readers' eyes is already a bit weakened. That's exactly what you wanna do as a storyteller. You don't want your main character just taking out someone who's built up to be the strongest until the very end. You want them to take out really strong people yes, but slowly. Luffy eventually has to take out a Yonkou and Kaidou just happens to fit the role perfectly. And with him supposedly relying on Smile fruits, if Luffy and Law destroy the factory and continue their alliance then I really feel like he's the next big step. Or at least the next subarcs are going to slowly advance on him. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
He then specifically messes up that arrangement with an alliance with SH, after telling him that they're going after a Yonko. Hmm.. I thought it was obvious that they were going for Kaido | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8947 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 12 2013 03:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: I feel like this might just become a real setup arc again. Like, Punk Hazard was the obvious setup for this one but I feel like what's really been kept low is the factory string of the storyline. Yeah it's been mentioned in the manga a bunch that they're searching for it and destroying it but I feel like what happens there will set up a really HUGE arc in the future. From what we've heard so far I wouldn't be surprised if Kaidou was the next big antagonist after this. Think about it, Kaidou's been perfectly set up to be the big name Luffy takes out to really turn the heads. Shanks apparently had no trouble with Kaidou, Moria was said to be on par with him at some point so Kaidou's overall reputation in the readers' eyes is already a bit weakened. That's exactly what you wanna do as a storyteller. You don't want your main character just taking out someone who's built up to be the strongest until the very end. You want them to take out really strong people yes, but slowly. Luffy eventually has to take out a Yonkou and Kaidou just happens to fit the role perfectly. And with him supposedly relying on Smile fruits, if Luffy and Law destroy the factory and continue their alliance then I really feel like he's the next big step. Or at least the next subarcs are going to slowly advance on him. what? Shanks and Kaido didnt fight, Shanks fleet fought with some of Kaidous fleet and we only know Moria and Kaidou have a history Kaidou was called the "the strongest thing alive" by Law, mos tlikely he has the biggest amount of personal power out of all the emporers | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 12 2013 13:38 Incognoto wrote: Shanks has a fleet? I thought he was just one pirate ship he had that has been super rookie deliver a message to whitebeard so he has to have at least 2 ships at his comman | ||
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ZigguratOfUr
Iraq16955 Posts
On September 12 2013 03:38 DarkLordOlli wrote: I feel like this might just become a real setup arc again. Like, Punk Hazard was the obvious setup for this one but I feel like what's really been kept low is the factory string of the storyline. Yeah it's been mentioned in the manga a bunch that they're searching for it and destroying it but I feel like what happens there will set up a really HUGE arc in the future. From what we've heard so far I wouldn't be surprised if Kaidou was the next big antagonist after this. Think about it, Kaidou's been perfectly set up to be the big name Luffy takes out to really turn the heads. Shanks apparently had no trouble with Kaidou, Moria was said to be on par with him at some point so Kaidou's overall reputation in the readers' eyes is already a bit weakened. That's exactly what you wanna do as a storyteller. You don't want your main character just taking out someone who's built up to be the strongest until the very end. You want them to take out really strong people yes, but slowly. Luffy eventually has to take out a Yonkou and Kaidou just happens to fit the role perfectly. And with him supposedly relying on Smile fruits, if Luffy and Law destroy the factory and continue their alliance then I really feel like he's the next big step. Or at least the next subarcs are going to slowly advance on him. I wouldn't exactly say that Moria was on par with him, considering that all we know about their rivalry is that Kaidou wiped out Moria's crew (I see their rivalry in the same vein as the "Crocodile-Whitebeard" rivalry, very lopsided powerwise) . Also Law clearly stated that if Kaidou turned against Doflamingo, Kaidou's crew would wipe the floor with Doflamingo's. As to Shanks easily dealing with him, all we know is that Kaidou tried to prevent Whitebeard from sailing on Marineford, and that Shanks intercepted him, and since we don't know what exactly happened, it doesn't lower him in our eyes. Also, I don't think that I would consider someone known as "the strongest creature in the world", as easy prey. The way I see things, before the end of this arc Luffy will chaotically end up in conflict, with almost every major power on the seas, having offended Big Mom with the whole hidden bomb in treasure thing, caused problems with Kaidou by destroying his Smiles production, and gotten into a war with Blackbeard (possibly by beating up Burgess?). Its possible that he will team up with Moria to fight Kaidou first, but I don't think that Luffy will pick his antagonists in such a linear fashion. He will also probably piss off the Kidd-Hawkins-Apoo Supernova coalition for some random reason, and will try to fight Shanks to prove that he has improved, for all I know. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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Sableyeah
Netherlands2119 Posts
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Scaramanga
Australia8093 Posts
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
We already know that Moria is in the New World together with Absalom and Hogback so it makes sense to see them return for that arc. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
On September 12 2013 18:01 AsnSensation wrote: Kaidou and Moria weren't "equals" :D Kaidou absolutely destroyed his crew so that the only one remaining was Moria himself :D. Which is why I think that Moria will eventually join Luffy in the fight vs kaidou and he gets another ally. We already know that Moria is in the New World together with Absalom and Hogback so it makes sense to see them return for that arc. I am so hyped about Shadow luffy . Maybe this time is stronger than last time because Moria use the skill himself to transform luffy!. If it happens ...  I always liked Shadow luffy, looked so unbeatable and scary like a real bad guy. I dont know if Moria can steal shadow of dead people, that will be more cool because all the dead people are so powerful. I really hope shadow luffy make a return, not just 1 time thing. I also hope for SogeKing keke. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18776 Posts
On September 12 2013 18:29 XiaoJoyce- wrote: I dont know if Moria can steal shadow of dead people, that will be more cool because all the dead people are so powerful. We don't want Naruto's Edo Tensei version 2, do we? lol | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On September 12 2013 18:29 Incognoto wrote: I dislike moria, gutless, not funny, not strong, not even a good villain, he's ugly and he has the shittiest devil fruit, he's also so vain lol fuck moria it's a shame he didn't die To be honest, Hachi was just a random villain too before becoming an ally of the straw hats. I have to trust Oda once again on this one. | ||
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