[Manga] One Piece - Page 1614

On June 17 2022 23:05 Hyperbola wrote:
Where exactly did the marines get all these Admirals from? Do they grow on trees? (pun intended)

But seriously, Fujitora was one thing, he didn't really seem all that special and was right around Doflamingo/Katakuri level from what we've seen, but Green Bull is over here wiping out two Yonko commanders simultaneously without breaking a sweat. Keep in mind, Marco could barely keep up with King/Queen before he tired out. And in the past characters like Aokiji and Kizaru could only take on one commander at a time - Jozu and Marco, respectively.

On June 17 2022 23:05 Hyperbola wrote:
Where exactly did the marines get all these Admirals from? Do they grow on trees? (pun intended)

But seriously, Fujitora was one thing, he didn't really seem all that special and was right around Doflamingo/Katakuri level from what we've seen, but Green Bull is over here wiping out two Yonko commanders simultaneously without breaking a sweat. Keep in mind, Marco could barely keep up with King/Queen before he tired out. And in the past characters like Aokiji and Kizaru could only take on one commander at a time - Jozu and Marco, respectively.

So do you mean to tell me that this man, who could very well be a Yonko due to his strength, just willingly decided to join the marines and become a lacky for the World Government? With his power he must at least be the king of a country or the commander of a great army, so why would he leave all of that behind just to become a working stiff for the government? Do admirals really get that many perks for the work that they do?

If Green Bull wanted power, he could have just become an emperor. If Green Bull wanted justice, he would have joined the marines sooner. If Green Bull was a loner like Mihawk, what could possibly make him change his mind and become an admiral of all things? It makes zero sense for this largely unknown character to exist in One Piece as he does. I hope Oda offers some explanation because otherwise this is just bad writing.

On June 18 2022 02:17 Shinokuki wrote:


Out of all things, you think this is bad writing? This isn't bad writing at all. Admirals were always equal or slightly below yonko.The narrative kept changing regarding admiral power level throughout the years when Oda constantly put admiral on the same level as yonko via narration (don chinjao's quote, Big mom being possible FA, Shanks being strong enough to go "toe to toe" with admiral on SBS. First it was Admiral = Doffy, then it evolved to Admiral = Katakuri, then it evolved to Admiral = First mate, and now that an Admiral says "mere commanders" people are really confused now. Not sure what 2 piece you've been reading. It was in your face all the time, even during marineford when WB was hyped to the max and still got clapped by admirals. People were so brainwashed by anime scenes that they thought admiral = YC2 lmao.

When akainu fought WB he always had the upper hand until he got sneaked attacked by blood thirsted WB. Even then, he vaporized part of WB's head and didn't get KO'd. In manga, you see akainu falling to the depths, still conscious enough to dig a hole and pursue luffy. Otherwise, he would've drown in the water. After that, he still faced 14 WB commanders + 2 shichibukai + 2 rev. Hmm, that kinda seems like what Kaido is doing in a era of hyper power inflation..

Admirals were always on the same level as yonkos and I'm glad Oda had that panel of GB mercilessly destroying the beast pirates. Oda is not gonna disrespect the japanese icons he drew, only to get stalled by a subordinate. He's gonna make sure they shine and clash equally with the yonkos.

My final thought is that due to Oda's inconsistency and horrid power scaling system, he will make the character as strong as he wants for the story to be interesting. We had Garp on Marineford and that alone should've been enough to beat WB himself. We had 4 admirals + mihawk who would've clapped WB pirates in a heartbeat. But nope, he had to make it interesting and he had to hype the first yonko crew appearance. It was never about power scaling but more about how oda can hype shit up without making sense.

On June 18 2022 02:40 Hyperbola wrote:

I think you're missing the point of my post. It's not to rank powerlevels, but call attention to the fact that characters like Green Bull were essentially created out of nowhere by Oda without reasonable justification. Green Bull isn't like Aokiji, Kizaru, or Akainu, where he joined and progressed through the marines, he was recruited at his current state via the recruitment draft during the timeskip. This means that he was recruited from somewhere, which means that he had to have a life and had to have developed Admiral level fighting skills before he joined. My question is: "where?". Why was he never mentioned and then popped into existence. Surely, a character that could go toe to toe with Yonko would have at least some notoriety. He clearly wasn't a pirate, so was he the general or king of a nation? What would possess such a man to even become an admiral so late in his life when he's powerful enough to run his own empire? It just makes no sense to me.

On June 16 2022 15:37 evilfatsh1t wrote:

as for your "why arent all the admirals converging on wano" question, its not difficult to assume that admirals arent all sitting around navy hq scratching their balls 24/7. the wg literally just found out that the nika fruit has been awakened. maybe green bull was the only one who was immediately free, and the other admirals are off doing their own shit somewhere. do you lack such basic ability to speculate that you are unable to even fathom that the strongest marine figures cannot be mobilised instantaneously against one target? jesus christ.

On June 18 2022 09:38 cLutZ wrote:


Even if they aren't "doing something" the Navy can't deploy all their admirals to take out Luffy because then another Yonko could go and take out Marineford, or Marijois, or some other strategic target. Its always been obvious that the WG can't move against the Yonko (and generally Yonko can't move against each other) because each of them would likely be backstabbed or teamed up on and lose all their territory. If all 3 Admirals went, for example, to Tottoland pre-timeskip to take out Big Mom, they might succeed. But they'd probably lose like an Admiral, 10 Vice Admirals, oh and by the way at the same time Kaido just razed G1, Whitebeard razed Marineford, Dragon kidnapped all 5 of the Gorosei, and they don't even accomplish much by taking out Big Mom because Shanks comes in, kills another Admiral and takes her poneglyphs for himself.

Worst "victory" ever.