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GreenHorizons
United States23642 Posts
On June 16 2015 05:09 oGoZenob wrote: ZOMBIE MOUNTAIN OMFG This is the most important thing from the season, and made the whole season worth it. The only thing missing was a Dornish dude making Oby "the headless serpent". I liked the finale and I'm so happy they wrecked people. Never liked Stannis, hope Bri has his head on her horse. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On June 16 2015 07:29 BluzMan wrote: What bothers me is that Alliser Thorne has been shown as a calculative man who plays to his strengths. I don't understand how he put himself at such risk, and, even more importantly, why he let Jon through the gates in the first place. I just don't find such suicidal behavior from him believable, thus, there's a rather bad aftertaste to the season finale. Uniting the watch under Thorne seemed better than how it was split under Snow. The Wildlings aren't THAT loyal to Snow and arent about to attack a castle to avenge him. I've seen quite a few posts mentioning why he let them through the gate. For me it's simply because Thorne figured he could deal with Snow later for which he'd have even more support once the watch sees wildlings go through castle black and realise they lost comrades for it. He also didn't want to betray the other watchmen out there who just followed orders. Snow went the way of Ned. Doing the right thing at the cost of allies/politics. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
Can any mod confirm if my question can be answered or not? | ||
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Coppermantis
United States845 Posts
He pretty much has to deny everything. If he says "yeah, I died, but I'll be back next season," then there's no surprise and his death has no suspense at all. If he refuses to comment, that's as good as a yes since it tells people there's something pertaining to his character's status that the producers don't want to spill. That leaves him with "No, I'm not coming back" as the only possible answer. Maybe he really is dead for good, but it's also possible that he's lying to make the surprise greater come next season. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On June 16 2015 08:41 Coppermantis wrote: He pretty much has to deny everything. If he says "yeah, I died, but I'll be back next season," then there's no surprise and his death has no suspense at all. If he refuses to comment, that's as good as a yes since it tells people there's something pertaining to his character's status that the producers don't want to spill. That leaves him with "No, I'm not coming back" as the only possible answer. Maybe he really is dead for good, but it's also possible that he's lying to make the surprise greater come next season. I suppose. But he talks about how he didn't get like a sword for his last scene and how he might cut his hair. How he's thinking of going into some movies and taking a break to read the books and stuff. He goes into too much detail to think he's actually just bullshitting and is lying about the next season. | ||
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RCMDVA
United States708 Posts
The "I surrender" guy stabbed in the back by Ramsay had a better death. Myranda had a better death going splat off the wall. Meryn Trant... without question. At least with Myrcella there was a touching reveal between her and Dad. Jon Snows touching reveal was that Sam got laid. If he's really gone, I hope Wun Wun claims Ghost. | ||
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Scarecrow
Korea (South)9172 Posts
On June 16 2015 08:47 Zooper31 wrote: I suppose. But he talks about how he didn't get like a sword for his last scene and how he might cut his hair. How he's thinking of going into some movies and taking a break to read the books and stuff. He goes into too much detail to think he's actually just bullshitting and is lying about the next season. Well he is an actor... If he doesn't come back I have no clue what Davos and Melisandre do next season. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23642 Posts
On June 16 2015 08:41 Coppermantis wrote: He pretty much has to deny everything. If he says "yeah, I died, but I'll be back next season," then there's no surprise and his death has no suspense at all. If he refuses to comment, that's as good as a yes since it tells people there's something pertaining to his character's status that the producers don't want to spill. That leaves him with "No, I'm not coming back" as the only possible answer. Maybe he really is dead for good, but it's also possible that he's lying to make the surprise greater come next season. It would help to sell it by putting him on a media blitz while he's still under the impression that his character is dead so they don't have to worry about it. If he disappears around July when season 6 starts shooting you can pretty much consider yourself spoiled. | ||
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shin_toss
Philippines2589 Posts
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Hier
2391 Posts
Stannis's story this season was somewhat melancholic, especially when his persona is juxtapositioned against that of his opponents', the Boltons; sadistic and treacherous. The Boltons take his imminent invasion very seriously, giving an impression of Stannis's overall might that forebodes a seemingly inevitable conquest of Winterfell. Yet Stannis is on a clock; his army is at a peak, but the longer he waits the weaker his forces become. He has no allies; the wildlings refuse to join him, the Night's Watch refuse to join him. Stannis has no choice but to move out at a very poor time. Along the march the weather and guerrillas ravage his men and resources, withering away at his strength. Still Stannis remains resolute. He is the underdog that, despite the growing gap in assets between him and his opponents, will persevere no matter what. He is made to sacrifice his dearest to simply give his men a chance to survive before reaching their target destination, to slow down the bleeding from his host. In spite of the efforts by Stannis, his men begin to lose hope and abandon him; his army is now a small fraction of its initial size. His men are exhausted upon reaching Winterfell, and without a single moment to rest the enemy engulfs them. To scorn the viewers' obstinate faith in Stannis's victory, what was meant to be an epic battle from the start is transformed into a predictable massacre. The highly anticipated deafening bang... gave off little more than a whimper. | ||
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Shock710
Australia6097 Posts
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On June 16 2015 09:48 shin_toss wrote: Theres a reason why they show the snow ground before jumping. 100% they will survive. its just a 10 - 20 foot wall. If the snow is thick it would absorb the impact I guess. Theres even a case of a russian noob base jumper who jumped 400m and his chute did not open. guess what. he fell on the snow and survived. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Sr30ote.png) LOL, 10-20 foot wall my ass. In that picture, it's not even the bottom, it's at least 40 feet... Maybe as high as 60. 45-50 feet is my best estimate... In most situations, you'd seriously injure yourself. That snow really has to be quite perfect, and you need to land quite well to get up unscathed. If the snow is right, they should survive though. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On June 16 2015 07:39 kwizach wrote: This is a no-spoilers question for the book readers: excluding story lines that are different in the books and the show, is there anything left in the books in terms of story progress that has yet to be shown in the show, or has the show completely caught up to the books? If there's anything left, don't say what it is (as the thread rules indicate), just tell us the show hasn't completely caught up yet. Let me phrase it like that: book readers got somewhat spoilered by the show by now.  | ||
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killa_robot
Canada1884 Posts
I mean, we heard him say "I won't be here next season", but I don't recall him saying he'd never be back. He may just take up a movie as a in between project or something. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On June 16 2015 07:39 kwizach wrote: This is a no-spoilers question for the book readers: excluding story lines that are different in the books and the show, is there anything left in the books in terms of story progress that has yet to be shown in the show, or has the show completely caught up to the books? If there's anything left, don't say what it is (as the thread rules indicate), just tell us the show hasn't completely caught up yet. Book 6 starts off with the battle between Stannis and the Boltons, so for example the book readers go spoiled there. With that said, there are still little things that that happened in the books (as well as the released chapters of Winds of Winters) that could count as spoilers. Though nothing that significant. The thing is, the books offer a lot more information, so it's a lot easier to predict what's going to happen next, opposed to the show. And that's why the book thread is filled with a bunch of random theories than are so convoluted you would not find a single piece of evidence for them in the show at all. With all that said, I think right now is an ideal time to start reading up on the ASoIaF wiki, to really get the full experience, as there is so much more depth to be explored, and it's really wonderful. I cracked at the end of Season 4, and regret it a little bit... There might be more of a shock factor with a lot that happened, but I think in the grand scheme of things we are at the same point. | ||
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RenSC2
United States1080 Posts
On June 16 2015 07:39 kwizach wrote: This is a no-spoilers question for the book readers: excluding story lines that are different in the books and the show, is there anything left in the books in terms of story progress that has yet to be shown in the show, or has the show completely caught up to the books? If there's anything left, don't say what it is (as the thread rules indicate), just tell us the show hasn't completely caught up yet. I think that the show is equal or ahead in all plot-lines it handles except one. There are other plotlines that are ignored by the show and may still come back, others that are almost definitely gone. There are also some plotlines that are so mangled that it's tough to say if they're ahead or behind or equal. I do recommend reading the books, they are quite good. May the old mods and the new have mercy. | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On June 16 2015 10:29 RenSC2 wrote: I think that the show is equal or ahead in all plot-lines it handles except one. There are other plotlines that are ignored by the show and may still come back, others that are almost definitely gone. There are also some plotlines that are so mangled that it's tough to say if they're ahead or behind or equal. I do recommend reading the books, they are quite good. May the old mods and the new have mercy. Could you tell me for which plot-line the books are still ahead (without spoilers, just which plot-line it is)? By PM if you don't want to post it here :-) Thanks a lot! | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On June 16 2015 10:33 kwizach wrote: Thanks for the answers guys! Could you tell me for which plot-line the books are still ahead (without spoilers, just which plot-line it is)? By PM if you don't want to post it here :-) Thanks a lot! Me too (I've never read the books, read the shit out of the wiki though), and there's none I'm aware of. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On June 16 2015 08:47 Zooper31 wrote: I suppose. But he talks about how he didn't get like a sword for his last scene and how he might cut his hair. How he's thinking of going into some movies and taking a break to read the books and stuff. He goes into too much detail to think he's actually just bullshitting and is lying about the next season. The guy lies for a living. LOL, 10-20 foot wall my ass. In that picture, it's not even the bottom, it's at least 40 feet... Maybe as high as 60. 45-50 feet is my best estimate... In most situations, you'd seriously injure yourself. That snow really has to be quite perfect, and you need to land quite well to get up unscathed. If the snow is right, they should survive though. | ||
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