On December 19 2012 05:23 kafkaesque wrote: I don't get what killing LaGuerta is going to accomplish.
If she already got the court order, certainly it will be pursued regardless of her being alive or not?
I was thinking about this too, but I don't think so. If she were acting alone, nobody would know about the warrants besides her and the judge who issued them, and it isn't a judge's job to follow up on such things. A paper trail exists, but it's only there if somebody is actively looking for it.
Calling for Angel to pick up the trail on Dexter next season since he knew laguerta and knows she wouldn't just vanish or whatever.
On December 18 2012 12:56 Daumen wrote: Even though she was framed of framing dexter (what?) she is still a CAPTAIN of the Police force, why wouldnt she be able to call back-up for a Call for Help ? wtf? Just because she framed dexter the POLICE wont help a Captain of the POLICE force? Is that how the police works in the US?
Because she is now under investigation of a serious crime that will lose her her job and land her in prison. ANYTHING to do wtih Dexter Morgan (Especially the guy whose evidence she "planted" on him and pushed for his parol) would just put her in deeper shit.
I thought this season started off great, the turned horribly bad. Not only do you have to completely suspend disbelief, but also the plots and story was all over the place. This was almost as bad as Ghost-of-Travis' past ('Hey Whore!') from last season.
Dexter instantly jumps on the idea of killing LaGuertia when she has warrants to check their phones. I don't know all that much about the american legal system, but I'd expect a judge issuing a warrant to check into the phones of not one, but two Miami Metros officers involved in a killing would want to have that warrant carried out -- specially when the officer requesting them turns up dead. That's not to mention the fact that LaGuertia might, you know, have told someone at the station that she was getting these warrants (she did have some circumstantial proof to back it up). Which then leads to another question, how the heck did she manage to get warrants to break the privacy of two senior employees of Miami PD with just a video footage (given her crusade).
The way he was going to kill LaGuertia and the other dude also makes no sense. Both Dexter and another bloodspatter analyst (the guy the author hired) manage to deduce that Hannah is the killer of that chick earlier in the season by looking at bodies that are what.. 5-10-15 years old? You're telling me that the forensic team wouldn't be be able to see that the gunshot was post-mortem? This is all fucked up by Deb, who shoots LaGuertia with her own service issued gun -- how do they get out of that? Seemed like they just left the container and headed through a party. Did they disappear her? Doesn't that point the finger at Dexter twice as hard?
One of the most interesting things for me in the episode was how much Deb has just accepted Dexter’s killings. Like, when he told her he had Estrada in the back of his truck, she just kind of left without saying anything. No resistance or protestation. And before, she asked him to kill Hannah pretty flat out. Now that she’s killed LaGuerta, do you think she’ll take part in more of his kills in season 8? Could be interesting.
I thought one way for Dexter to survive at the end of the series would be if Masuka was secretly also a serial killer throughout the entire show. If Masuka then was caught by someone, LaGuerta's blood slide would potentially point to him too because he works in the forensics department.
For some reason, even if Dexter is proven guilty or killed, I think it would be fun if one of the other characters was revealed as a serial killer late in the series. Vince would make sense because he's a bit creepy. Unfortunately I don't think anyone else is pulling the wool over our eyes.
Dexter will probably have a really tough time of it in the next season and the stress will be too much for him.
On December 19 2012 07:16 loladin wrote: I thought this season started off great, the turned horribly bad. Not only do you have to completely suspend disbelief, but also the plots and story was all over the place. This was almost as bad as Ghost-of-Travis' past ('Hey Whore!') from last season.
Dexter instantly jumps on the idea of killing LaGuertia when she has warrants to check their phones. I don't know all that much about the american legal system, but I'd expect a judge issuing a warrant to check into the phones of not one, but two Miami Metros officers involved in a killing would want to have that warrant carried out -- specially when the officer requesting them turns up dead. That's not to mention the fact that LaGuertia might, you know, have told someone at the station that she was getting these warrants (she did have some circumstantial proof to back it up). Which then leads to another question, how the heck did she manage to get warrants to break the privacy of two senior employees of Miami PD with just a video footage (given her crusade).
The way he was going to kill LaGuertia and the other dude also makes no sense. Both Dexter and another bloodspatter analyst (the guy the author hired) manage to deduce that Hannah is the killer of that chick earlier in the season by looking at bodies that are what.. 5-10-15 years old? You're telling me that the forensic team wouldn't be be able to see that the gunshot was post-mortem? This is all fucked up by Deb, who shoots LaGuertia with her own service issued gun -- how do they get out of that? Seemed like they just left the container and headed through a party. Did they disappear her? Doesn't that point the finger at Dexter twice as hard?
This season could have been so much better.
So the reason you don't like the season is because of a bunch of stuff that hasn't had a chance to happen yet?
Some of your two pargraphs of ranting are essentially about stuff that can easily happen in the next season. We know the two season are hugely connected, so why complain when we dont know how this is going to unfold? And part of your complaints are circumstantial, "she might have done this, or that".. if you think like that you can tear apart any fucking show ever. The thing is we don't know yet. The cliff hanger for the season is how the hell is this mess going to unfold, and you are complaining because of all the things that could get them caught, which is part of the cliffhanger... what?
Some people just complain for the hell of it i swear. It is ok to not like the season, but at least make complaints of the actual season rather than what hasn't been resolved yet.
As for post mortem shooting, that isn't an instantaneous marker. The time between estrada's death and his planned shot in his chest would not have been very long, and it could have looked like a bullet death after all.
And how did she get warrants? shes the friggin captain.
On December 19 2012 07:16 loladin wrote: I thought this season started off great, the turned horribly bad. Not only do you have to completely suspend disbelief, but also the plots and story was all over the place. This was almost as bad as Ghost-of-Travis' past ('Hey Whore!') from last season.
Dexter instantly jumps on the idea of killing LaGuertia when she has warrants to check their phones. I don't know all that much about the american legal system, but I'd expect a judge issuing a warrant to check into the phones of not one, but two Miami Metros officers involved in a killing would want to have that warrant carried out -- specially when the officer requesting them turns up dead. That's not to mention the fact that LaGuertia might, you know, have told someone at the station that she was getting these warrants (she did have some circumstantial proof to back it up). Which then leads to another question, how the heck did she manage to get warrants to break the privacy of two senior employees of Miami PD with just a video footage (given her crusade).
The way he was going to kill LaGuertia and the other dude also makes no sense. Both Dexter and another bloodspatter analyst (the guy the author hired) manage to deduce that Hannah is the killer of that chick earlier in the season by looking at bodies that are what.. 5-10-15 years old? You're telling me that the forensic team wouldn't be be able to see that the gunshot was post-mortem? This is all fucked up by Deb, who shoots LaGuertia with her own service issued gun -- how do they get out of that? Seemed like they just left the container and headed through a party. Did they disappear her? Doesn't that point the finger at Dexter twice as hard?
This season could have been so much better.
Didn't she have papers written up to show a judge so she could get a warrant? She didn't have one alreeady? I could be wrong
On December 18 2012 12:56 Daumen wrote: Even though she was framed of framing dexter (what?) she is still a CAPTAIN of the Police force, why wouldnt she be able to call back-up for a Call for Help ? wtf? Just because she framed dexter the POLICE wont help a Captain of the POLICE force? Is that how the police works in the US?
She doesn't want to FURTHERMORE fuck up her reputation/credibility after the whole "I-Just-Fucking-Framed-Somebody" ordeal. It's one of the few things that actually made some sense in these last episodes.
It makes more sense than a lot of other things this season, but even so, I think I would prioritize my life above my reputation when there's a chance that I'm being set up by the most accomplished serial killer of all time.
To add on to that, I feel like the show didn't portray much fear within Laguerta when she discovered Dexter's identity. She was looking at the guy who has been the BHB for years without getting caught, planted evidence to frame her, and framed Doakes into being the BHB and tricked the whole department and her for years right under their noses. There has to be SOME fear or recognition of the danger she faces in Dexter.
Dunno why she would be afraid, considering she wants the guy that setup Doakes. When you want revenge, fuck fear.
On December 18 2012 07:14 Xxio wrote: Yvonne Strahovski, good actress. I don't think they will give this show a satisfying ending next season.
I would say Jennifer Carpenter, fucking amazing acting. She pretty much nailed it this season. Her crying, sobbing and overall mimics, the tone of her voice etc. before shooting Laguerta was AMAZING. Not to mention her great performance at confessing her love to Dexter in the balcony scene. She deserves an Emmy with this season.
Dang so apparently parts of that last scene wasn't even scripted.
On December 19 2012 08:41 hp.Shell wrote: I thought one way for Dexter to survive at the end of the series would be if Masuka was secretly also a serial killer throughout the entire show. If Masuka then was caught by someone, LaGuerta's blood slide would potentially point to him too because he works in the forensics department.
For some reason, even if Dexter is proven guilty or killed, I think it would be fun if one of the other characters was revealed as a serial killer late in the series. Vince would make sense because he's a bit creepy. Unfortunately I don't think anyone else is pulling the wool over our eyes.
Dexter will probably have a really tough time of it in the next season and the stress will be too much for him.
In the books, Dexter repeatedly mentions that of all people in the department, he seems to relate most to Vince, because it seems that all of his smiles, everything he ever does is an act.
Lindsay mentions that repeatedly throughout all books. This could be an insane twist wouldn't it?
Personally, I would hate that twist. Maybe it's mentioned in the books, but never on the series, so it would feel pretty out of place. And there's been no mention of any other serial killer in the area. Finally, I like Masuka the way he is, and I wouldn't really want to see him go dark.
-Angel is gonna catch on to what happened because he knew both dex and laquerta weren't at his party. -Hes gunna either come out of retirement or hunt on his own time. -Debra is gunna die because of Dexter/Debra is gunna get Dexter caught. -Harrison is going to see something like Dexter did when he was a kid fucking him up, and the Nanny (forget her name) will take care of him -Angel catches both of Debra and Dexter and gets award and becomes captain or some shit.
On December 20 2012 22:15 Mementoss wrote: -Angel is gonna catch on to what happened because he knew both dex and laquerta weren't at his party. -Hes gunna either come out of retirement or hunt on his own time. -Debra is gunna die because of Dexter/Debra is gunna get Dexter caught. -Harrison is going to see something like Dexter did when he was a kid fucking him up, and the Nanny (forget her name) will take care of him -Angel catches both of Debra and Dexter and gets award and becomes captain or some shit.
On your 4th point. Harrison already saw his Mom die and was sitting in her blood when Dexter found him. I don't think he's gonna see anything else.
Ok I might be crazy, but I was thinking. Is it possible that they left all of Dexter's tools at the scene and made it look like Laguerta was going to try and frame Dexter again by setting up a crime scene but the whole thing backfired on her (Since she had already done tons of research and probably knew all the tools the butcher used, she would know what to have there to make it look convincing)? Dexter could use the whole thing about Estrada getting out early as an argument that Laguerta let him out so she could kill him and frame Dexter (though she had already done that once and it backfired. They could have tried to make it look like that she went off the deep end this time in trying to frame Dexter). I know there is a 99.9% chance I am wrong and I probably overlooked things but it was just a thought.
On December 21 2012 03:21 Ben... wrote: Ok I might be crazy, but I was thinking. Is it possible that they left all of Dexter's tools at the scene and made it look like Laguerta was going to try and frame Dexter again by setting up a crime scene but the whole thing backfired on her (Since she had already done tons of research and probably knew all the tools the butcher used, she would know what to have there to make it look convincing)? Dexter could use the whole thing about Estrada getting out early as an argument that Laguerta let him out so she could kill him and frame Dexter (though she had already done that once and it backfired. They could have tried to make it look like that she went off the deep end this time in trying to frame Dexter). I know there is a 99.9% chance I am wrong and I probably overlooked things but it was just a thought.
Sir I believe you have thought of a perfectly good theory and very well could be what happens
edit: this also fits with deb shooting laguerta with her service gun, as laguerta would use the exact same gun and thus hector shooting her with her gun would be the determined outcome by police. Dexter is good enough to clean up after deb hugging her at the end, and thats all they would have to do
I couldnt believe yvonne survived the season in every one of the last few episodes I was expecting her to die somehow and they kept teasing it too. So happy to see her in season 8 she hottest blonde on tv right now.
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