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On April 29 2019 10:16 Emnjay808 wrote:
Great movie. Definitely lived up to my expectations and they were set high.
First-half was my most favorite and the very end GotG scene + Thor was the best. All the fighting scenes was alright, just once you’ve seen one fight you’ve seen em all.
I’m hyped for Spider-Man now.
Also lol at the Captain Marvel scenes. Just how convenient.
Interesting, I found most of the + Show Spoiler + quite dull. The extended battle at end was dope.
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If you didn’t like the middle section honestly I’m not sure what you were looking for. The payoff from the collective stories, the feels, all of it was excellent.
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On April 27 2019 10:28 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2019 09:27 blade55555 wrote:On April 27 2019 05:21 eviltomahawk wrote:
I didn't think it was perfect and I thought Infinity War was a better movie for the most part, but Endgame was still damn entertaining. Marvel and Disney has created a monument of pop culture with their MCU.
I just wish it had an intermission so I didn't have to lose out on a few minutes near the end. Same. I really liked it, but I definitely enjoyed Infinity War a lot more. I am curious where it's going to go from here. It's gonna be hella hard to match the same scale of buildup that the MCU was doing up to Infinity War. However, I'm not familiar with the comics, so I'm also curious if there are any other storylines that are worth big multi-movie arcs. It might be entirely possible that future movies focus on smaller-scale stories and heroes with only references and cameos to the rest of the MCU. Whatever happens, I think it's impressive to see how well Disney pulled off these first 3 phases of the MCU for the most part, and I'm confident that there'll be at least some good movies to come in the future phases even if they don't match the ambition of what they've already done.
The infinity stones are just such a good plot device that people are already familiar with from the comics. It allowed Marvel to create a bunch of mostly self-contained stories with a small, easy to remember plot element to tie them all together. It's very difficult to create multi-movie arcs that can cater to both people who only care about that specific superhero and people who watch primarily for the bigger universe plot elements. Even casual fans who only watched the movies once when they came out would still remember what tied those movies with the overarching plot.
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I would give this a solid 7.5/10. The first one was better, in my view. Loved what they did with Thor, Cap and Iron Man.
Rant in spoilers.
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Why is Hulk such a pussy? For ten years or so, comic book fans told me that he is the strongest Avenger.
In Infinity War, he had the upper hand against Thanos for a while and then got his ass beat so badly that the didn't dare show his green face.
Then in Endgame, his GF dies.
How is that not a setup for a complete beast-mode Hulk that beats Thanos' ass? I genuinely can't remember if he even had a part in the final battle. Everyone got their redemption moment except for him.
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On April 29 2019 18:24 love2d wrote:I would give this a solid 7.5/10. The first one was better, in my view. Loved what they did with Thor, Cap and Iron Man. Rant in spoilers. + Show Spoiler +
Why is Hulk such a pussy? For ten years or so, comic book fans told me that he is the strongest Avenger.
In Infinity War, he had the upper hand against Thanos for a while and then got his ass beat so badly that the didn't dare show his green face.
Then in Endgame, his GF dies.
How is that not a setup for a complete beast-mode Hulk that beats Thanos' ass? I genuinely can't remember if he even had a part in the final battle. Everyone got their redemption moment except for him.
+ Show Spoiler +He explained that when he was first introduced, and made fun if it throughout the movie, so I'm surprised you didn't catch that. Bruce Banner merged the hulk powers into him, so he could keep his own mind but the power of the hulk. Only problem is that Bruce hates fighting and doesn't really know how. He's one of the few original Avengers who's going to continue in the MCU tho, so expect more things to happen with this character.
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Good movie visually and good action, but... + Show Spoiler +The time travel killed the story for me completely. Some people never learn. Wtf was that Nebula shit ? Time travel affects memory disks now ? Quantum realm ? From the point they started talking about time travel I stopped caring about the story and just enjoyed the visuals.
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On April 29 2019 18:30 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2019 18:24 love2d wrote:I would give this a solid 7.5/10. The first one was better, in my view. Loved what they did with Thor, Cap and Iron Man. Rant in spoilers. + Show Spoiler +
Why is Hulk such a pussy? For ten years or so, comic book fans told me that he is the strongest Avenger.
In Infinity War, he had the upper hand against Thanos for a while and then got his ass beat so badly that the didn't dare show his green face.
Then in Endgame, his GF dies.
How is that not a setup for a complete beast-mode Hulk that beats Thanos' ass? I genuinely can't remember if he even had a part in the final battle. Everyone got their redemption moment except for him.
+ Show Spoiler +He explained that when he was first introduced, and made fun if it throughout the movie, so I'm surprised you didn't catch that. Bruce Banner merged the hulk powers into him, so he could keep his own mind but the power of the hulk. Only problem is that Bruce hates fighting and doesn't really know how. He's one of the few original Avengers who's going to continue in the MCU tho, so expect more things to happen with this character.
+ Show Spoiler +No I caught that, I was just annoyed by it and hoped he'd go 'full Hulk' in spite of himself because the rages becomes uncontrollable.
What's the point of a Banner / Hulk hybrid that can't even fight? May as well wear the Hulkbuster armor again.
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+ Show Spoiler +to be fair he did get tucked up from the snap so not too surprised he wasn’t at full capacity
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On April 29 2019 18:39 Pr0wler wrote:Good movie visually and good action, but... + Show Spoiler +The time travel killed the story for me completely. Some people never learn. Wtf was that Nebula shit ? Time travel affects memory disks now ? Quantum realm ? From the point they started talking about time travel I stopped caring about the story and just enjoyed the visuals. 7/10 for me.
+ Show Spoiler +Full agreement.
The whole time travel - multiverse thing made me feel like the stakes couldn't be any lower. They have infinite do-overs anyway, so who cares. Nothing is final. The snap wasn't even final. Everyone's back.
Even when they tried to make it absolutely clear that everyone only had one flask of Pym juice, when Cap and Tony fucked up, they found a way to get more Pym juice. So even that arbitrary constraint isn't really a constraint to begin with.
So yeah, 7/10 is about right.
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$1.2B worldwide box office over the (granted, very) extended opening weekend.
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On April 28 2019 09:53 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 05:38 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 04:53 Sermokala wrote:On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avengers should know about it being there + Show Spoiler +They didn't know that Dr strange wouldn't be there with the time stone. They only met a short time ago when banner fell into the place in new york. They assumed he would be there with the stone and they had no other clue about where/when the stone would be. + Show Spoiler + They thought they had only ONE shot to get all stones at once and it was specifically said that THREE stones would be in New York at that time. So somehow they knew (thought they knew) about the time stone being there. They essentially got lucky off of what ended up being a wrong assumption.
+ Show Spoiler +That was the right assumption tho? In IW Dr Strange told them that guarding the Time Stone it is the duty of the Sorcerer Supreme.
Banner, Stark and Thor met Dr Strange at some place in NY, which happens to be filled with weird magic stuff, remember how Strange scolds Thor for touching some stuff. So they assumed there would be another SS guarding the stone there. Fair assumption IMO.
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On April 30 2019 00:39 hexhaven wrote:
$1.2B worldwide box office over the (granted, very) extended opening weekend.
I heard from box office tracking sites that movies opening on Tuesday/Wednesday is fairly common in certain countries. Granted, they did seem like they really wanted to set the record. China went from opening 2 weeks later in Infinity War to opening on Tuesday this time. Too bad they couldn't open in Russia until today.
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On April 29 2019 21:31 love2d wrote:Show nested quote +On April 29 2019 18:39 Pr0wler wrote:Good movie visually and good action, but... + Show Spoiler +The time travel killed the story for me completely. Some people never learn. Wtf was that Nebula shit ? Time travel affects memory disks now ? Quantum realm ? From the point they started talking about time travel I stopped caring about the story and just enjoyed the visuals. 7/10 for me. + Show Spoiler +Full agreement.
The whole time travel - multiverse thing made me feel like the stakes couldn't be any lower. They have infinite do-overs anyway, so who cares. Nothing is final. The snap wasn't even final. Everyone's back.
Even when they tried to make it absolutely clear that everyone only had one flask of Pym juice, when Cap and Tony fucked up, they found a way to get more Pym juice. So even that arbitrary constraint isn't really a constraint to begin with.
So yeah, 7/10 is about right.
+ Show Spoiler +Yea, these are my thoughts. Can't say I'm a big fan of time travel as a plot device in general. You can make cool movies around it exploring ideas/concepts around it, but used purely as a plot device it's like a "meh" do-over type of thing.
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There's already been people in this thread who hadn't watched it yet. Everyone has managed to keep it within the spoiler tag so far, so I see no reason not to continue. Should be double tagged when you start talking about characters not even in the movies yet. Come on, mods should be leading by example 
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On May 01 2019 17:03 Pandemona wrote:Ok watched it last night, avoided all spoilers up to the point pretty easily. First hour of the film was utter trash, like holy crap that was slow starting crap. Did not get going at all. The last half or maybe quarter was good. The ending was predictable due to knowing about certain people not wanting to do anymore of the films and such afterwards, however i still think they didn't do them as much justice as they should have gotten. Story was played out pretty slowly as mentioned and i thought in a whole was not a good way to attack this amazing comic book lore of this segment for me personally. The lack of Adam Warlock in all this upsets me for instance, having him help and have the mistress of death actually be a thing would have been better for me. Especially if as planned in Guardians 3 he is supposed to turn up, like seriously? He turns up in G3 but not in Avengers, seems a bit silly  Overall this was at most a 6/10 and that was just because the humor in the last quarter was actually funny and Peter Parker and Tony Stark bond is actually nice and what not. I did not laugh at the forced humor at all for the first part and was genuinely questioning what was going on. I am glad Captain Marvel was not shoved down our throats for the whole film either and she only had a small part to play because many things are wrong there. No need for spoilers btw guys, if you are coming into the marvel avengers : end game thread with the view of not finding spoilers you are very crazy!
This is the discrepancy between comics and film. If they had stuck anywhere close to the comics, this would have been an epic we have never seen. But we got this and they did a very good job of it.
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The character i referenced is from comic books and has already been talked about in Guardians 2 when Gammora mentions Adam is entrapped in a cocoon somewhere.
The spoiler thing i don't know i can just mark this thread as spoiler free but that seems a bit weird as why would you talk about a film that is out when you have not watched it? I kept away from this and movie thread until i had watched it for example.
On May 01 2019 21:50 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2019 17:03 Pandemona wrote:Ok watched it last night, avoided all spoilers up to the point pretty easily. First hour of the film was utter trash, like holy crap that was slow starting crap. Did not get going at all. The last half or maybe quarter was good. The ending was predictable due to knowing about certain people not wanting to do anymore of the films and such afterwards, however i still think they didn't do them as much justice as they should have gotten. Story was played out pretty slowly as mentioned and i thought in a whole was not a good way to attack this amazing comic book lore of this segment for me personally. The lack of Adam Warlock in all this upsets me for instance, having him help and have the mistress of death actually be a thing would have been better for me. Especially if as planned in Guardians 3 he is supposed to turn up, like seriously? He turns up in G3 but not in Avengers, seems a bit silly Overall this was at most a 6/10 and that was just because the humor in the last quarter was actually funny and Peter Parker and Tony Stark bond is actually nice and what not. I did not laugh at the forced humor at all for the first part and was genuinely questioning what was going on. I am glad Captain Marvel was not shoved down our throats for the whole film either and she only had a small part to play because many things are wrong there. No need for spoilers btw guys, if you are coming into the marvel avengers : end game thread with the view of not finding spoilers you are very crazy! This is the discrepancy between comics and film. If they had stuck anywhere close to the comics, this would have been an epic we have never seen. But we got this and they did a very good job of it.
Yeah i get the comics are different and they didn't use any of the comic book lore around this epic saga much apart from the stones and the gauntlet. But why reference Adam Warlock in Guardians 2 and why apparently bring him into Guardians 3 (rumor) for which that film is now not out until 2022. Seems bit backwards
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Good movie, I enjoyed it and would recommend it to others. I wouldn’t put it in great movie territory but they did a really good job of it.
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On April 30 2019 01:02 Salteador Neo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2019 09:53 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 28 2019 05:38 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 04:53 Sermokala wrote:On April 28 2019 04:45 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 03:29 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 03:09 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 28 2019 01:46 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:On April 28 2019 01:39 InFiNitY[pG] wrote:On April 27 2019 23:09 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:I saw it on Thursday after work. Copped 3D because I was in a rush to get the pre-order tickets when they released. Didn't ruin the film, but I'll have to see it in IMAX to get a better feeling. All in all, it hit every emotional string and I found myself surprised how much I was invested in these films. A lot of the moments were just perfectly portrayed. My biggest issue with the movie was the + Show Spoiler +non-need of Capt Marvel. She just delayed Thanos by like 2-3 seconds. Captain America wielding the hammer was amazing but the lightning was kinda forced. And where the hell did he put it after he time traveled back? Sam becoming Black Capt is amazing (he becomes CA in the comics, as does Bucky but I guess they didn't want him to take over). + Show Spoiler +Oddly enough I found your issue to be one of the movie's strong suits. People were expecting the introduction Cpt Marvel to be a cop out as to how to save the world. Instead, she barely made any difference within the movie. What I didn't like was that they had no introductory scene for when she met the other avengers. She was just "there" all of the sudden. I am sure I saw a scene about the avengers checking out Fury's signal in one of the post credit scenes or a trailer, so the producers probably just cut that part?
Unrelated question: How did the Avengers know that the time stone would be in New York at that time, when it was five years before Dr. Strange even acquired it?
+ Show Spoiler +They knew where Strange lived and they went to that location. He wasn't SS at the time, but it would still be in that location or somewhere nearby. + Show Spoiler +That is not an explanation at all. Black Widow (I think) said "if we hit the right time, three of the stones will be in New York". However, it was FIVE YEARS before Steven Strange became Dr. Strange. Knowing that he would own the stone in New York five years from now gave them no knowledge whatsoever where the stone would be at that time. By that reasoning, the stone could be literally anywhere in the universe. + Show Spoiler +But that place where Banner fell has been there for a long ass time and he was sent there because he knew exactly where it was. That's why it was him and not someone else. They knew about all of the events, so tracing things back would have been easy for them to do. And technically, he was Dr. Strange, just not Sorcerer Supreme Dr. Strange. And when the Chitari attacked, the Ancient One was defending the city as well, that's why she was there on the rooftop. She had to be there to protect the city from an off-world invasion. + Show Spoiler + I'm sorry but I don't think you understand at all... All of what you are saying is true, but NOTHING you said explains why the TIME STONE should be there at that time OR why the avengers should know about it being there + Show Spoiler +They didn't know that Dr strange wouldn't be there with the time stone. They only met a short time ago when banner fell into the place in new york. They assumed he would be there with the stone and they had no other clue about where/when the stone would be. + Show Spoiler + They thought they had only ONE shot to get all stones at once and it was specifically said that THREE stones would be in New York at that time. So somehow they knew (thought they knew) about the time stone being there. They essentially got lucky off of what ended up being a wrong assumption. + Show Spoiler +That was the right assumption tho? In IW Dr Strange told them that guarding the Time Stone it is the duty of the Sorcerer Supreme.
Banner, Stark and Thor met Dr Strange at some place in NY, which happens to be filled with weird magic stuff, remember how Strange scolds Thor for touching some stuff. So they assumed there would be another SS guarding the stone there. Fair assumption IMO.
+ Show Spoiler +To me, it seemed like they were specifically looking for Dr Strange at first, got unlucky with the timing, and then got lucky with the Ancient One being there instead. It didn't seem like they were expecting another Sorcerer Supreme, though it's not specified on whether they talked to any other sorcerers post-IW.
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